Here. Hello. My
name is Chris Curran from the Mystic show
and I'm here with Mike, Wisconsin from Ascension works.tv.
Hello?
And we're just gonna have a nice simple chat. This is
going to be an episode of The Mystic show and it's also going to be up on ascensionworks.tv.
So the Mystic show is a show where I talk about spirituality and
meditation and a lot
of deeper esoteric subjects, but they're
also very practical.
in many ways, I mean
everything I really talk about is based on practical experience
and and using
you know gaining knowledge and experience to use it
in our life and our own lives to
create a better life for ourselves and our families and stuff.
And ascensionworks.tv Mike, why don't you give us a quick overview of
that?
Yeah, I'm trying to work with a lot of people like yourself to put up
more content that would be related to what people have called the Ascension
of consciousness of humanity. But really what you're
talking about is really the core of it is what actually matters
what's valuable and I think is people listen they're
attachment to seeing value and what the
world has been pumping as the valuable way of
living the way of thinking and we find more of our value in
spirituality in the inner work and we take back our power to
kind of transform Our Lives From the Inside Out basically, I
think that that's that's the core of what what the
spiritual spiritual progress path is that we're on
spiritual transformation process. And also it's the core of
what is the most practical thing that we can we can possibly do to make
our lives better to achieve whatever
it is that we're seeking.
Right. Yeah. Yeah, and I've found in
my experience that people come to spirituality or
they come to these topics because
they've reached sometimes reached a low point
in their life.
And that happened to me. That's my story. I've
told that many times but I won't tell it here. But my
story was I basically hit rock bottom and then it kind
of woke me up. And I said man, there's got to there's got to be
more to life than this. And so so if
you're here watching it,
Watching this and you're in that phase of your life. It's a great place to
be because now you're in exploring mode, right? You're
sort of and not exploring Outside Inside, right?
yeah, so we have a bunch of topics lined up first couple
things I want to mention is that I have a cup Spotify playlists
that
I heard a while back and it's really awesome for relaxation or
meditation or ceremonies. Like
there's it. There are many tracks on it. It's very long.
It's like six or seven hours.
But it's really cool. It's called siladeep session two.
It's on Spotify. I will we will put that
in the show notes and the other thing.
on my other YouTube channel
I have a playlist called background music
while working.
And because I work from home on my computer and it just
when I'm just doing menial things.
I really helps to put on you know, there's some classical music
on there it and you know some electronic
music but it's very chill. I just
sort of gathered these tracks that we're kind
of cool to have on in the background if you just you know, bopping along doing
some work, so we'll put that in the show notes
as well.
I wanted to talk about meditation first because
meditation is so wonderful, but not
everyone knows that yeah, and recently. I
visited my mother over the holidays and my mother
has never been into meditation ever. She knows
that I've been into it for a long time.
But this was the first time me and
my wife visited my mom.
And we we said oh, we're gonna let's do
a meditation. We didn't really ask her. We just
kind of said let's meditate for about 15 minutes.
And I have a little song that I play Same in the meetups that
we have.
And my mom was like, okay.
And then we sat down and I you know, I told my mom what
to do and how to do it and how to relax and all that.
And and then we we meditated for probably 15 minutes,
and you know, I don't know if she was opening her
eyes, or I don't I don't know the experience and I
don't it doesn't even matter, but I was just so happy.
To meditate with my Mom. It just
really felt good. Have you have any experience like
that? Yeah. I mean I try to get my mom to meditate more too. And and
I think she doesn't think that she can do it well,
but
I mean there there were two different stages
to this process. I guess also there was the stage of I don't
know how I feel about this because it there's there's this Western programming amongst
fundamentalist Christians that that you can't
invite anything that resembles the Eastern religion in your life. And although
meditation is clearly just described in the Bible. It's just
that it says the meditate on the scriptures, you know,
but but the concept is, you know, basically like you
you want to actually take them take a
moment to to give yourself a break to to think on
higher thoughts or allow your mind to distance itself
from the thoughts that you've been plagued by
for most of your day. If you're if your
day is full of anxieties, it's definitely why is it at least step away
from that a little bit and however, however you can do that.
So yeah, I feel like
it's something I probably should work on more with with my family
in general because it seems like you know the problems that we think we have
to resolve through discussion probably can be resolved faster
just through stopping discussion and just letting ourselves
just just be and just allow the
Peace of the of the present moment to
come into our experience more.
Definitely and I agree with that but this is
what I've experienced with my family.
They like even my mom and every other
member my family, they've never been open to spirituality. They've
never been open to meditation. I mean, they're happy
that I'm doing it. They don't have a problem with me doing it, but
they're not ready to do it and I think
a lot of families are like that and so like you just
said you you hope you can
Suggest it you hope you can go that direction. But I think the
fact is that a lot of family members. They're just not ready
to do it and you can't try to push them into it either, right? Yeah.
It's a very weird thing. That's why I was so amazed.
That might that my mom just did it with us now. She's older
and she you know, I started meditation 20
years ago. So she's had 20 years of here at least hearing that
word. So I think by now she's just
more open to it, and she was just happy to be with her son and
daughter-in-law so
Yeah, that's great. But it's hard to get you know.
It's hard to get people to meditate. And by the way, these are
the notes for the show. I'm not checking my Twitter or anything like
that. So just so you know.
Oh because in 2003 when I
started meditation and I told I first told my mom about
meditation maybe not the first time maybe like within the first
month or two of me talking about meditation.
She literally asked me.
So wait, are you a Hindu now?
She literally asked me that and I was like, oh like but
you know again, it's it's Mom it's fine. But
but that just shows you.
The mindset. Yeah, right.
and it's it really meditation is really like
Calming this is one way to view meditation calming
the channel.
Which enables reception from?
the ultimate or above it's like
I mean because you I'm sure you've experienced it a lot
when you meditate.
Yes, you might have all kinds of thoughts and stuff.
But at time and maybe not every day, but at times you
really have new thoughts like oh like even
for your business like, oh I should look into that product or
I should maybe develop this service like
you actually there are creative ideas that
come up. Have you experienced that right? Yeah people call that downloads very often,
but I think it can also interpret it as your higher
guides giving you Assistance or your higher
self, you know, or the Holy Spirit, however, you look at it. But
I think that there is like a lower self and a higher
self integration process that is that is
allowing us to receive from the intuition
on a deeper level than we normally would if we're distracted.
Because living everyday life there's a lot of times when you
feel stuck. You don't know what to do next and you want
answers but you don't know where to get the answers and I've
often felt in business because I'm basically a
solopreneur. I always want to hire like a business coach or
something or get one of my friends to pretend. They're a business coach.
So but I think a lot
of times we're overlooking this creative thing that
happens after we meditate and the answers can
come and they do yeah even people
who don't meditate they'll get they'll be driving down the road. They'll get
an idea. Oh, I should start a business doing this, right? Yeah.
Yeah, and I mean it's also something people associate with
prayer that you know, you're praying for guidance, but you
have to give the time not just to send the prayer
but to receive the response to the prayer. So a lot
of times if I feel like I'm stuck in in something and
I don't understand what I should be doing or it's overwhelming. I have
too many choices to make if I just give myself that time to to
just sit in peace and silence and
and just let those challenging energies
be be what they are and and gradually
just feel them and then it feels like it's like
puzzle pieces just untwisting and then falling
back in place as I allow myself to just kind
of Hear the right answer. What is the most perfect answer
because I think what the the intention that
we have for our business the intention that we have for doing
any kind of projects that core motivation is
what kind of what we're wanting to get back in touch with too instead of
being distracted by the details. We get back in touch with you
know, what What the deeper level of this.
Intention is and then once we can tap into that
that that will that we have then the
natural next step for for us. I think
becomes more apparent also also by our
own process of being open to that.
Right and you just reminded me of when I was sort of
like a coach 10 12 15 years ago.
I learned from Bob Proctor and others and he
there was a program called purpose vision and goals and
the purpose is like the overarching purpose. The
vision is like well, what does that look like and then
the goals are like day to day and week to
week specific goals and
If and so if you get caught up in goals, yeah,
you get caught up in the weeds. Sometimes we
forget what our actual purpose is, right, so
I always found it great to just to zoom
out and like reflect on that. All right. What is my
what is my vision here?
How would I like it to unfold or go and then and then you
can even zoom out more? What is my purpose and these are hard questions though, right?
And I think there's a bigger there's a bigger aspect to that is that if
our purpose is an alignment with some higher?
Dimension of reality where there's some kind of
coordinated effort between you could call them
like Angelic beings or you know,
if we all have some kind of mission on Earth
that we might not even know consciously. I think
if our limited Consciousness becomes
more in alignment with that broader Vision or
mission to help Humanity in
some way then also our you know, our purpose can come
back into alignment with higher purpose and it's like we have more more help
and more assistance and more miracles. I think come into our lives
and we're more and more aligning with the truest highest purpose
for ourselves. Yeah.
Yeah, I recently had an example of what some people
might call Flow.
You know when you're just you're you're thinking things
you're doing things and but it's sort
of just like happening and it happened to me with.
A new technology and then a conference that I
want to attend.
and
It's like everything just happened. I couldn't
have written a better script where I find these videos. I
watched the videos and then I learned this and then I find out about this event
that's happening. And then I go and there's you know, then I registered
then I register for the event and I booked my flight and everything. It
just all happened. I mean
literally this happened within a matter of hours. Yeah. There's a
great quote in the Raw contact that says to pay
attention to the seemingly strange
and random occurrences that
seem to unfold in your life that just seemed
to occur randomly by coincidence, but actually
everything is happening for a purpose and
that we're given everything that we need. It says in the
passage every, you know, every entity will receive the
opportunity that each entity needs.
As the quote so it seems like the universe
is unfolding on some kind of magical Dimension that we can't even
always see with the random random coincidences,
but it's never really random.
And you know the funny thing when I was about to book the
flight and book the hotel like my my what would
you call it? My conscious my lower mind my conscious
mind, whatever it you know, it started to doubt. It was like
really man. You just found out about this 40 minutes
ago. And you're you're booking your flight already, but
I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm a little older and I'm this has
happened a few times like and also.
I'm a little more courageous than most people I think I
mean, who knows but I was just like no. No,
I'm doing it and it and it feel good. Yeah, I had
that experience when I found out about Stephen
Greer's trainings that he was doing
in the deserts of near Palm
Springs, California. As soon as I find out that this event
was happening. I realized the registration was about to close. So I
so I sent in and I got like right in before the
deadline and that ended up just you know, being extremely
one of the most important things of my life to attend Stephen
Greer's a week long training program that led me to
recognize that there's there's a lot more going on. This was I
don't know we're going in too much of the deep end here, but Stephen Greer
leads and now he's becoming more mainstream too. He's got a
documentaries on Netflix and Amazon Prime and there's a movie called
Close Encounters of the fifth kind. You can see me in there with my
group my meditation group and that's it's an
interesting excuse to get people together and meditate to say we're gonna
watch the sky and see if anything shows up after her meditation and very
often.
This yeah, like flashes of lights in the sky and seemingly signaling
us when we're when we when we're in a loving
State as a group and we're watching the sky very often
the the loving exchanges seemed correlated to
the the flashes and the and the bright lights in the sky
that seem to not be explainable in any other way than some other
higher intelligence.
yeah, and I've been on those some of
those experiences with you and it's it's really very very
I want to say very interesting, but I also want to say
It it's oh, it's like opening your Consciousness, you
know, like to me it's all about the Consciousness. That's why
if you're listening to this and you're thinking oh, there's lights in
the sky, whatever. These people are weird.
It's like
always remember
we as human beings right now.
We know literally zero about consciousness.
Literally, I mean maybe 0.001%
So if you think so, we don't understand so much
around us science.
Pretends to know everything.
And science knows almost nothing.
so when we do events like that, what you were doing
is we're set we're sort of
admitting the fact and and we're accepting the fact that
we don't really know what's going on here. And what are
the smartest and most fun people to listen to I find
is Eric Weinstein and he was just on Joe Rogan. I
don't know if you saw that and he was talking about he actually did this too. He went out in the
desert to try to make contact. I'm pretty sure that's what he mentioned in
this podcast with Joe Rogan and and
he's he's trying to approach everything from like a theoretical physics
perspective because if the
Fact that we're being visited.
Because of the fact that Einstein's equations
aren't valid the fact that we can go faster than
the speed of light or if there's some some larger aspect to these
theoretical equations that allows us to play with the nature
of reality with with technology. And if they're being
doing this then it seems like we're probably being you
know, very heavily watched and monitored
and it's almost like they're deliberately trying
to remain hidden if they are hidden as they are and the
number of puzzles people to pursue in the UFO area
is so vast. It's fun to watch people wake up
and actually, you know, try to pursue these puzzles because it's it's just
a Labyrinth of you know, conspiracies and
rumors and speculations of just
never ending but it is kind
of like, you know, the rock context says that it's the sense
of mystery is why they the positive entities are
are appearing in our reality to inspire
us to break down some of the walls that we
have that we assume so much about what we think we know
about
nature reality and if we can open up to the sense
of mystery or the mystical and the Mystic
show, very appropriate. We're really trying to find the
sense of the mystical more in our lives that allows
us to Break Down The Walls that we set up artificially very
artificially I think.
wow, great points well said
so
I wanted to talk about an analogy. Oh, do you have
anything more to add? Oh, I could talk on that subject for hours. I was gonna say like,
this is anyway, hopefully we can do a lot more of these. Yeah,
wonderful. So
Okay, what we're what we were just talking about is consciousness and
sort of.
you know admitting the fact that we
don't really know a lot of what's going on, but we're you know,
we we're sort of intrigued by the mystical and we're
we're if you're open to learning a lot
of learning will happen, right and so
one of the things about human beings is
when we're children.
Our parents have to teach us a lot of very practical things, you
know how to how to hold the fork how to pull up your pants
and you know all practical things.
and
some people
and and those are practical things and
and then there's a lot of superficial things in life as well like, you
know, gossip and what people think of
you and you know, there's a million superficial things in life, but I
think a lot of people
Uh, and this this is all about growth and evolution of the
individual but a lot but a lot of people find it hard to sort of
transcend that superficial level.
Because their mind is always going and like, oh, how could
I believe that? There are potentially alien beings
around that's ridiculous. And everyone's going
to think I'm crazy and that's their intellect their
small mind.
Keeping them down right or keeping them in the box that they're
in whatever so.
You know and there are more profound aspects of life that
a lot of spiritual.
People have figured out and they're teaching and a lot of people a lot
of people do experience things like that. And so you
have the superficial aspects of life and then
you have the deeper mystical aspects of life. Not everyone
gets into the deeper mystical stuff and
It that so that situation reminded me of another situation.
There's a band named tool.
which I there might basically my favorite band Tool and
they're very
they play in odd time signatures it
it's not your basic music
that you can follow easily. Sometimes they'll be playing and
you can't catch the beat. It's such a weird off
beat.
You can't catch it and the so the first time you hear
it, you're like, what is this? I don't know
what this is like and you might not like it because you don't understand it. But
here's what happens with tool.
If you listen to if you keep listening.
And listen to that song again and tomorrow listen again, eventually
you catch the Rhythm and it's
such an odd, but beautiful rhythm.
All of a sudden your mind opens up and you're
like, oh my God, this is amazing.
And so I think that's analogous to what happens in our lives. We
can be in The Superficial plane for a while,
but some one day you open up to this.
Mystery and it's like that's it. You can't go back right
paradigms changed Alexander scrubbin
was like that too. I think he actually had a chord named
after some of his music called The Mystic chord and and
is the most bizarre some
of his music sounds very bizarre, especially for his time. It was very bizarre. But
but it does feel like
a mystical experience and there's some funny stories about
him. He thought that he was gonna like live to see the end
of the world and have some like multi-day musical performance like
in Tibet or something like that. He had this Grand Vision
and he died young but but it's like the music
sort of brought him to this level where he
felt like he was living in a different reality basically, but yeah
music is certainly an entry point. I think for people to
recognize there's maybe another layer to their Consciousness
that they that they had neglected right and movies.
Are that way too and yeah movies have some of the best
music too.
Yeah, right.
Yes, so this is what our one thing I wrote.
When a person is more superficial and fearful.
They are more closed more judgmental and
more dismissive.
When a person is more mature or more zoomed out
and less fearful.
They see more depth and Nuance in people
in situations and therefore
they're less.
Judgmental, they're less harsh.
Right. I mean I threw the word mature in
there and I don't know if it fits.
but I think
we all can understand this idea of maturity that there are
some people in life who are just they stay very immature.
and there are other people who who mature and take responsibility
and all that and I think
you know in Practical terms you call it maturity in spiritual
terms. I don't know what you call that.
I mean and we don't have to call it anything. I'm just I'm just
bringing that up. Yeah, I feel like there's a certain sort of
cleanliness to our experience that comes in
place. Once you're no longer stuck in the same habits of
unforgiveness or frustration when when
you recognize things and they no longer
are seen as value less. They're seen as
valuable as teaching tools and you can have gratitude where once
there was pain, you know.
or frustration
Right. Yeah.
That makes a lot of sense.
Okay, so the next topic topic I wrote down was
tension fear.
And anxiety and this was another.
This was another analogy.
So a lot of us feel fear I think fear is I mean,
it's pretty much Universal right? We were just talking about it before we even
started recording.
yeah, you know there's always a little fear about
this and that and it, you know, hopefully we can minimize
the fear because
you know, we're really we're
We're sleeping peacefully in the palm of our Creator's hand,
right we're being taken care of at the larger
levels. We really don't have anything to worry about.
But in our small minds and our small life
we have some fears.
And so I don't know. I think the more what would you
say the more you practice spirituality the more you open up
the less fearful you are would you say that?
It's mysterious. I don't always know if
there are just new fears, you know, I feel like there's aspects
of people were different people are afraid of different things and
that different patterns, you know, I think extroverted people may
be less fearful of interacting with people and you
know, social anxiety doesn't necessarily indicate
that you're less spiritually mature. I feel it's just
that there's there's different layers to the
Personality game that we're in with
when it comes to the catalysts
that we're being and the catalysts that
were given but fear is very mysterious because
it almost feels like fear is the same thing as just believing
distortions believing in lies about, you know,
the peace and the Perfection of the present moment.
But yeah, I think there is a path out
of fear. That's a spiritual path all the time.
right
Yeah, because animals feel fear on
just like a basic level, right? Yeah. Do
you think that's where our fear comes
from? I mean, obviously we're part animal. So I think we have yeah, I
think it comes from the red chakra. It's basically like the all
life has in common this this desire for
survival. And when the desire first survival becomes
connected to different aspects of our reality that
we have connecting to, you know, not being able to
potentially be secure or have enough food. Even if
it's like it's a very long winding mental Pathway to
get from the thing. We're afraid of all the way back to
a concept of survival.
It's it's this extension of survival that I think is is
related to fear and ego. Of
course is yeah what that is. Yeah ego seems
like an extension of the of the protection of the self that
body.
Yeah.
So I've had an analogy that may apply here.
I this is one of my favorite analogies of all time and maybe you
can tell me what you think.
And it goes along with anxiety and fear. So I I
follow chess. I sometimes
I play chess but I followed like
the professional chess players and the professional chess tournaments
and I just love watching chess and analyzing chess and
all this.
It's it it's unbelievable and I think by the
way.
If any kids if you can teach kids chess, that's
one of the best things you can teach a kid.
Ever because there's so much to it that is
is real, you know, preparing managing
your risk understanding what
the opponent might want to do and not just thinking about what
you want to do. Like there's so many amazing things.
You can learn from studying chess and just
having fun with it, but one thing I
recognize and this is
recognized by everyone
Is that when I for instance when I play chess?
I'm not that good. So when I'm you know,
I moved some pieces and then there comes a time when there's a lot of tension on
the board like a lot of captures can happen and and
because I'm not that good at chess like I could
feel myself getting anxious and there's all this tension and
what do I want to do? I want to relieve the tension and
this is what amateur chess players do.
It like if I can take your piece, I'm just gonna take it
and I'll take your feet like I'll just I just want to relieve all
the tension.
You know what professional chess players do?
when they're in those positions
They don't mind attention.
They can withstand the tension.
In fact, sometimes they add to the tension.
because and look it's obviously because they have
way more experience way better skills and
thinking and strategy and tactics, you know, obviously but
this is my point is that
the the chest the Grandmasters they don't
get fearful and anxious. I mean they do a
little because it's just human but they have it under control
and I to me that's like an analogy for life. Like if you're
a spiritual master who you've been enlightened
and you've you know, you've lived life you've experienced all
kinds of stuff like at that point.
A little bit of tension who it doesn't matter. And so what do
you think about that analogy? Yeah. I mean that's that's great. I
think I mean in some sense. I feel like that's what
God is doing with the all the tensions on Earth is it's an
exploration of how how silly can
we make this game where everyone is at each
other's throats and it's really just another side
of God experiencing itself, you know, another another dimension
to to the Perfection of a
choice of Free Will choice that we're always making to
to create the reality that we have but
it's funny
how some personality types are more prone to
want to stir things up and throw eggs and
get on camera for for shaking up
some situation. Yeah. I have a friend who
he just he enjoyed protesting
a little too much and enjoy getting
on camera. But but I mean if it
can if it can
is if it can create attention around a problem that needs
more attention than the tension is Justified to
highlight the issue. If we don't if we don't if we
don't highlight what what the situation is and we
just try to sweep it under the rug then the mild
tension can never get resolved until the the tension
is is made to a level where we actually want to
deal with it in some way and actually face it and tackle it
properly.
right
I also just thought of this idea of someone let's say you're someone's
going on an interview.
And you might feel nervous going into an interview, but if
you've been on a lot of interviews.
you don't get as nervous and and
if you're not.
desperate
that also helps so I think in life.
And again, I'm talking about myself, too. I think some of
us.
We're I mean look, we need money to live. We
need clothing and food. We like, you know, I'm that's obvious
and clear and and some
of us are fearful that we're not going to have those
things and that's a valid. I'm in
a way. It's a valid fear if you want to call it that
but I just think that
I don't know this concept this concept of
Rising above fear or something I don't
you know, like going into the interview and just
not being nervous because okay. I might not get I might
get it or I might not get it and if I don't get it, it's not the end
of the world like I'm gonna go to on other interviews. Yeah, you
have to face the fear completely and Imagining the worst case
scenario actually can be the path to getting through
your fear. If you're afraid to imagine the worst case scenario, which
could be a meteor coming and striking everyone
dead at the instant. You you go
to the thing that was making you afraid. I don't know whatever
the worst case scenario is if you can at least go there in your
mind and imagine how it doesn't matter and even
if you die, it doesn't matter whatever it is, then if
you can get to that point then you can kind of let all the other fear go.
right
Yes, some fears. Definitely natural. Yeah, and one
note I had about fear and anxiety. It's not about intelligence.
It's about Paradigm. So in
the analogy of the chess players, you might
think that
they can handle the tension and fear better because they're more intelligent. It's
not intelligence.
It's Paradigm. They already know they they have in
their mind this idea that they're a world
class chess player and they can handle anything.
That's their Paradigm for me playing chess.
I know I'm not a good chess player. And I know I'm gonna make
mistakes and I just lose and sometimes I don't even know why
I lost it's you know, so it's it's not about
intelligence. It's about Paradigm. And Paradigm is
just the way you see the world.
It's like
you know if you see yourself as a
physical being
And that's it. Then you have a very small Paradigm. But
if you see yourself as a spiritual being on this
Grand mystical Journey.
I mean then, you know a couple bad things can happen in your
life. Does it really matter that much I mean it might hurt.
But it's not the end of you. It's not the end of your mystical experience,
right? Yeah. I remember playing chess as
a kid and feeling like it was my job to win and if I
didn't win I was a failure. I'm doing something wrong by losing
but that's what makes all competition competitive games
people people play as children very useful because
you're you're forced to recognize that this isn't about
you. It's about a group of people having having an
experience together that is not necessarily rooted in
the thing that we're told to
do which is to win but it's the contradiction
in that sense. And so I've played
games where I just want to tie the other person and and to to
tie and and you know games like tennis are
fun like that where you can just go on and on and on when you're
when the other person hasn't, you know, not a
head by two points, you can just keep on playing on and on and on and
it's kind of it's kind of more fun that way when when
you can appreciate that the victory doesn't
matter. That's the game. It's you know,
the song that matters not the ending of the song You Know
Right. Yeah that's deep. So I'm gonna look at the next
topic. Why don't you sorry I guess I was gonna say so that means
it's like it's like a paradigm shift.
And I think it's that way as a paradigm shift for a
lot of people when they when they feel like something matters so much and then
they let go of what they thought mattered most. That's the Paradigm
restructuring I think.
Yeah, that's deep. What's what's an example of that? I wonder
well, like I said with with playing chess feeling
like I had to win the Paradigm restructuring is realizing that
everything is the same even if I don't win my
life is not
hurt because I didn't win. It's just it's just another
aspect of my my life. I don't have to put so
much attachment in it.
So being free of attachments is the Paradigm Shift got it
that makes total sense.
so while I'm looking at the next topic, Mike, why don't you
Tell me and everyone.
If I go to ascensionworks.tv.
What am I going to find there?
Well, I'm hoping to add a lot more content, but I
have right now I have a few courses on there. I
want to put out the invitation to people who have course
content that can be related to higher Consciousness Health subjects.
If you'd like to get out your content,
you can use the contact form on there to apply to get
your content on our platform. But we
also have video series and we have a social network. I'm trying to
integrate a social network because I'm a programmer. I've been a programmer
since entire adult life. I've been
a programmer. So I found a way to integrate a social network with the
video platform where?
You can post videos you can share that
on the social community and there's groups there's forums
and we were building
up a directory of services. If you have a service you
want to promote on there we can add you on to the directory.
So it's it's kind of a way to have a community around
higher Consciousness related content things that
we think are most beneficial to helping people.
And you'll see a lot of videos with me and Corey Goode. Also, I
partner with the most controversial secret space program. What's
the blower named Corey good and I feel like that's another way of
shaking things up a little bit. I had to do it. He's he I
believe him for many many experiences. He's got the most wild stories
though, but I've had so many discussions with him. It's
like there's no question in my mind that he's telling the truth.
But a lot of people other a lot of people out
there question question him and that's totally fine. Right. I
want to be accepting of everybody's beliefs. I've not
I'm not but at the same time, I feel like his perspective
very helpful for me and clarifying some of the the bigger
picture of what's been going on. You know, he talks about things
like
Wars in the heavens you could say I feel
like they're the Earth is essential like a
proxy war situation, but that's what this transformation that
we're going through is all about is that we
have to have this Duality intensified on
Earth until Humanity sort of
collectively wakes up to the fact that we have to choose to work
in Harmony and unison.
Beautiful. Yes, so go to Ascension works.tv sign up.
You can just get a free account and look around and by
the way with Corey and the fact that you believe him and
other people might not believe him that's kind of like the chess
game winning or losing. Does it really matter? Yeah, right
because we're all on our own Journey.
It does it. That's my question. Does it really matter? That's why I it may
sound silly, but I don't really care if it's
the truth or not.
I mean, I mean in a way I do but you understand
in a way. I don't because yeah, yeah and it's funny
that he started out on his journey telling everyone
that he was told very specifically by these these
higher density Consciousness extraterrestrial beings.
It does not matter if people believe you it matters
that these ideas get into the consciousness of humanity
so that people can decide for themselves in
people can work through their own their own junk. I mean,
it's really about the inner work. It's not about what's going on in space.
Yeah.
And it's the same thing with religion. You can believe that Jesus was real
and whatever you believe about Jesus or you might believe Jesus
was not real. Does it really matter? Yeah. Okay,
so we have three more topics,
but we're just gonna do one more because we're gonna have to do this again because
These other two topics were big. In fact, I can tease him
right now which character traits weaken you and
which character traits Empower you
that's a big discussion. We're going
to go over that and also,
having real faith
and and not and and by the way real faith is
not religious Faith. It's it's different.
And there's Acceptance in there too. So that's a deep topic. But
what let's let's talk about one more topic and that
is anger.
Let's talk about anger. I have a quote here from Mahatma Gandhi. I'm
gonna read but
anger is one of those things. Well, first
of all, I want to know from you because you've
studied the law of one quite a bit.
What does raw say about anger?
They say that anger is a random
and undirected.
Energy, that just hasn't been properly channeled
yet and the goal of
this random metaphysical energy that is
sort of like flustering us. The goal is
to have it transform the way that we
think to go.
To channel that energy either into acceptance or control. These
are the two paths. These are the two dualities. You can
Channel your anger.
In a way that allows you to become more accepting and
loving and open-hearted.
In order to break through that wall of frustration, or
you can channel the anger into controlling the situation
and you know, I've some people will go
out and you know beat a baseball bat on a
tree to try to get their anger out and I feel like that is a path of
control but at least you're getting the anger out in some
form because the anger when it's not dealt with
in some way that's when it becomes like a festering
issue that that continues to manifest
in our lives in ways that are more destructive
than properly, you know, focusing on
the anger and and intensifying it so that you can do something
with it.
Right. Yeah, that's really interesting. I did
not know that the the control and acceptance. Yeah.
Yeah.
and so also I think I would just like to say that anger is
is a normal thing like I mean
I've gotten angry in my life many times and
and maybe and it's probably a character
flaw of mine. Maybe I've gotten angry too much right? I don't know.
Maybe it's because
You know, I'm an Aries and like three out of
my four first planets are all in Aries and I'm Aries. I'm
fire. I'm like, I don't know. Maybe that's
it. Maybe not does it matter but you know
you we can look at people who are angry
and we can think that's a character flaw and maybe it is
but my point is that anger is a
is a normal is it natural thing? And sometimes it's
really warranted sometimes someone
that people are gonna do something right in front of you and you're
gonna get angry and you should get angry. Do you believe
that that sometimes people should get angry? Yeah. Yeah. I mean
the if we're just if we're just apathetic to
everything we're not really transforming ourselves or the world around
us. We're not helping at all.
Yeah.
so the Gandhi quote is
I have learned through bitter experience the one
supreme lesson to conserve my
anger.
And as heat conserved is transmuted into
energy.
Even so our anger control can be
transmuted into a power which can
move the world.
Right, so it's a power. Yeah, and it's what
are you gonna do with that power? Well, except or control?
Or even direct I guess. Yeah. Yeah it
can it can wake you up wake you
up from any kind of sleep, I guess. Yeah.
One thing I the acceptance part is for me. I know that's what I
am learning because I'm also getting better at noticing when
I'm like when the anger comes on.
like
it used to be when I was younger, especially there was
no it just happened. Whatever happened just happened.
I didn't really I wasn't conscious of what was happening. But now
I'm more conscious of it.
Yeah.
And being more conscious of it.
That's the first step right in making any change. Like are you
an alcoholic? Well, if you're not even conscious of it then you
there's no way you're gonna
Get better. The first step is becoming conscious
of it and realizing. Oh, yeah, there's a there might
be a problem here.
They actually do suggest in the Rock context that that anger
that you don't deal with. It's one of
the main causes of cancer is that people are not processing
something that's being given to them on a mental level
to process. They're not wanting to look at it. They're sweeping another rug and then
the body ends up manifesting that and the body ends
up being a mirror for the mind and the uncleanliness of
the mind that we're not we're not dealing with becomes the uncleanliness of
the body and I think a lot of sicknesses and
diseases work this way where the body is just showing us
something that we have to learn that they haven't figured out how to
process quite properly yet.
So that's why meditation is so important.
And I actually know in my own life. I know a person who went
through a situation.
In which they should have been very angry.
But they never showed it ever.
and then they went downhill very
quickly with cancer and and
a year
One year, they were gone and and and
and even in my own mind. I was like why wouldn't
like
I was saying why wouldn't you voice your anger or you know what? I
mean like
like
but you know people handle things differently, but that was
just an observation I had
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty interesting.
It's a touchy subject. But yeah.
Yeah, metaphysics is so profound to dig into
it. And yeah, as soon as you can see the metaphysical
cause for issues in your life, you can you
can root them out one by one much faster, I think.
Yeah, it's one thing I can also see with my wife sometimes when
I get angry. She just doesn't respond at all. Usually actually
pretty much all the time. She doesn't literally doesn't respond
at all because I think she knows that it's
just like
It's Just Energy coming off it's just me hitting
a baseball bat against the tree and she's just standing there like,
okay, go ahead.
Good, you know hit the bat against you know what I mean? She like
she's I think she's next level with with the
anger that I am.
Yeah, why my wife is kind of that way too
with with me when she knows I'm in a particular State. She
just just lets me be Mmm Yeah.
She has the intuitive wisdom that I don't sometimes I guess
that's why I'm looking at it.
Which is beautiful the relationship because it all goes
both ways, right? Yeah.
which is that's the beauty of a marriage and
yeah and a home. Yeah and children.
So I do want to mention before we go.
Me and my wife do meditate.
We live stream our meditations twice a week on Thursday evenings
and Sunday mornings. You can get more information
in the show notes and and Mike
you.
Are doing monthly live streams. Tell
us about that. Yeah, I'm trying to do a variety
of live streams with different people and you can find those that essentialworks.tv/schedule
and you can join the
live streams that way.
and yeah, I hope to have all kinds
of content covered in time and
and send in your questions if you want any particular things dealt with
be great to know.
I was just going to say that please if you have if you have aspects
of things we talked about that you want us to expand upon or
even topics or even books.
Anything you know?
I know you and I are we're like
Eternal students right? We're and we're
just
You know.
I could tell you in my own life. I've
come a long way, but it doesn't mean I've gotten anywhere far but I
think it's because I was so low. I've come
a long way, but I still it's just really
nice to hang out and talk about these things because these
are the things that no one ever talks about
yeah, everyone think a lot of people think all these topics are
stupid and it's like
man
but when you talk about it, and and you you share
and you learn
this is how we transform ourselves, you know.
This is it. Yeah.
Very powerful. So all right, ascensionworks.tv, and I
think my Mystic show website is still
up, but it's
I have to redo the website, I think but anyway the Mystic
show you could subscribe. I don't put out that many episodes
these days, but I probably will do more. And
by the way, I have the back catalog of the Mystic show
is great. You can go back to episode one.
I covered it's pretty cool. If you're into all
this stuff, you might want to check it out. It's pretty cool. Yep, and
you've been my guest before too. Yeah a couple times.
Stay tuned
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