Corey Goode: God, it was a mess down here. How was your Christmas?

Mike Waskosky: Oh, hold on. It looks like now . . . as of right now we're . . .

Corey: I can't hear you now.

Mike: All right, Corey, now we're live on YouTube. Can you hear me?

Corey: Yeah. There we go.

Mike: All right, let's start over. How are you doing, Corey?

Corey: Christmas has kind of wiped us out, as it always does. How about you?

Mike: Yeah, it was a good holiday season with travels and family and it's definitely work having more of a family now than last year. It was . . . Now he's more of a handful, I guess, my son is. And so . . .

Corey: Yeah.

Mike: It's a lot of fun but it's . . . it can be tiring.

Corey: Yeah, I understand. I understand. And now we have the new year coming up and quite the year 2023 has it been, has it not?

Mike: Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, that was a roller coaster with UFO disclosure. It's amazing that we . . . I don't even know like . . . I haven't been able to read all the details of the bill that was passed in the National . . . the dis . . . the NDAA for the military.

And I know that they gutted the Review Board and they gutted a lot of other things, but they still maintained like National Archives records collection aspect of it, I guess. And I assume that that will have some impact on how much UFO-type of documentation that the Congress can access, and that might lead to other things too, I suppose, but this is what they're . . . they're claiming that it's not . . . everything wasn't completely blocked with this final bill.

[Did] you hear anything about that?

Corey: Yeah, I mean, this is . . . you know, the military intelligence groups and corporations fighting back. It . . . You've . . . Before the bill was voted on you saw notable figures in ufology discussing a catastrophic disclosure.

And that has been kind of a small threat that they've been making that all of their whistleblowers may come out anyway and inadvertently reveal things that may not have been if the government had worked with them.

And sure enough, intelligence agencies are fighting back and now a lot of these whistleblowers are going to start coming out.

In 2024, I've been told that all efforts are really being – of the Alliance – are really being focused behind what are now at least 88 whistleblowers, if not more, who have come forward to give private briefings, classified briefings, to Congress.

But about half of them are people that have been reported to the Inspector General for the Intelligence agencies, but they are . . . they feel like they have the momentum coming now to where they're going to start coming out, and you're going to start seeing firsthand testimony about these sorts of things.

I don't know if next year . . . They're even speculating that the pressure is going to be so heavy once some of this catastrophic disclosure comes out – because they're going to have documents and photos and that sort of thing with them – that it's going to force Biden or someone in the administration to give a small acknowledgment that THERE ARE aliens from other planets or other beings that we have recovered craft from, but very little other than that.

And then they plan to kind of protract this out until 2027 or 2028 when they are . . . honestly, they are expecting one of these groups to show themselves to the masses. We're going to learn . . . Basically, they're going to disclose themselves.

And there's a big battle behind the scenes on how that's going to unfold between now and then.

Mike: Yeah, this is very interesting times. And certainly 2023 has been one of the most interesting years, I think, we've every seen with testimony of David Grusch, essentially leading to what was the fulfillment of the dream of so many in the ufology community with the desire to have open hearings in Congress.

And there were mock hearings that had been done in the past and there was the Disclosure Project Press Club events that had a bunch of whistleblowers coming forward who also are not quite the same category of whistleblowers as what we have with people like David Grusch where they're much more . . . I would say David Grusch is more credible in a lot of ways but he also didn't have the firsthand experience.

So I'm also curious if some of these 88 whistleblowers that you mentioned: Are these people who had the firsthand experience with interactions with beings?

Corey: Interaction with craft or beings. David Grusch, after the New Year, is going to release an oped where he's going to give a little bit more information about his firsthand information.

So he does have . . . He was read into certain programs. He was shown documents and I was told he saw like maybe images and possibly video as a part of that. But he's been unable to speak about it.

He's had it approved to where he can talk a little bit about it and that will unfold more as . . . to give him more of the credibility as . . . because he's spearheaded everything for what's ov . . . what's nearing 90, if not over 90, whistleblowers now.

And some of these people currently work in the program for corporations and in the military and . . . but many of them are retired.

And some of them are some of the older people that were part of the legacy programs that  don't feel like they have anything to lose at his point.

Mike: I see.

Well, I guess this is a good time to maybe take a step back before we go into Q&A and everything else. We could talk about what's going on with our projects. And also I want to remind people that if you want to participate with the live Q&A, we have this all set up through www.AscensionWorks.tv.

We're simultaneously broadcasting out to YouTube at the same time right now, but all of our interactions are focused on the people who are the subscribers and who are on www.AscensionWorks.tv. So look for us there.

Yeah, did you want to say anything about what's going on with your supporters and how things have gone this year?

Corey: Yeah, I mean, this has been a crazy year. Last year was crazy as well.

But, yeah, I mean, I'm really grateful for everyone who has continued to support me and also Mike and the work that we're doing. It's been . . . I mean, we've gone through absolute hell, you know.

And I guess we're starting to see movement in the lawsuits, which is . . . feels good, you know, sweet. We have other things that we're trying to move on to.

I'm about to get a default judgment against one of the partners that I worked with. A couple of others . . . Yeah, we're just ready to bring all of that to court which happens this summer because we have a lot of evidence – a lot of stuff.

And, you know, the racketeering . . . I mean it's been pretty incredible.

I didn't realize realize what a hornet's nest I was walking into about a decade ago, but this ufology, it's all part of a larger “entertainment” kind of mechanism or corporate mechanism.

And I found working in the entertainment industry with some of the documentaries we're working on, it is a nasty place to navigate.

I . . . Everyone that I have spoken to has had lawsuits or about to have lawsuits. There's all of this going on because there's so much unethical behavior in the entertainment industry and the UFO side of it. It's really bad.

But the people that have supported us, we really appreciate it. We're looking forward to having some events soon to where we can all come back together as a tribe and commune again.

But, you know, I'm very, very appreciative of your support. Those of you that have contributed to www.LightWarriorLegalFund.org to help us with all these massive lawsuits have been a blessing.

All of the information . . . I mean, we've spent . . . I can't even tell you how much we've spent on cyber investigators and PIs and all of that because of all the criminal behavior. It's amazing.

Most people don't realize . . . I mean, this is why your support is so appreciated. During the time period starting in 2016, after the show David and I were doing came out, I had five family members die like almost a year apart for almost five years.

Before I could mourn one, another one would happen. It was horrible.

And the people who came in to work with me, you know, that used “Namaste” and “love and light” and all of that, I thought that they were going to have my back when I was going through these things and I was having to try to recover, and instead they were using it to take over my business and tricking me into signing papers to where they own part of my business – very shady stuff, embezzlement, all kinds of horrible stuff.

I had that going on during the deaths. I had the cyberstalking campaign. I was working in a hostile work environment at the streaming company that was doing our show. It was horrible.

The only thing that kept me going, quite honestly, was the support of the community.

As everyone knows, when my deposition was leaked, that . . . I was fighting for not only my business, my life story, but my family. These people had done everything to destroy any potential I could of making business. They were trying to steal my life story. I had to say and do what was necessary and take people to court to do what was necessary to protect myself and not take the information I've been releasing for years and twist it and turn it into all these money-making schemes and having so many people from the community start take . . . trying to take over the information and narrative and LARPing.

It's been CRAZY, but in the end, all of these people . . . I tried to handle it in the background, giving them a year, sometimes three years, to settle in the background quietly, but they decided to take it to the “court of public opinion”.

So unfortunately, I've had to defend myself by taking people to civil court, taking things to federal investigators, but also I have to set things straight in the court of public opinion.

So one of these documentaries we're doing . . . I'm doing it with some pretty major showrunner directors and it's going to be the alien mania, the subculture war for Disclosure.

And people are worried that it's going to be a hitpiece against the community – absolutely not. Like I said, about 70% of the community is beautiful, awesome. It's just a small percentage of people doing the crazy, illegal stuff.

But we're going to do a show and the directors are not going to do any hit pieces. They're going to do kind of a “true crime”. I'm going to tell my side. All of these other characters are going to be given an opportunity to tell their side and then all of the evidence I've collected is going to be presented – their evidence to be presented – and we're going to have investigators do their own investigations.

And it's going to be like a “true crime” reality TV show. It's going to be interesting but it's going to shed a lot of truth on things and expose a lot of corruption. But it's also going to highlight the 70% of people in this community who are honestly “love and light” beautiful souls.

And it's going to set the record straight. It's going to be very exciting.

We're working on another show that's actually being pitched next month – [I'm] nervous and excited because we've had a couple . . . We had a show a couple of years ago sold to a travel channel and then the merger happened and everything that was green lit was red lit. And we've had set-backs like that.

But this one looks good. It's going to be giving James Gilliland and ECETI Ranch the spotlight that they finally deserve. It's going to be a docu-series that covers his ranch and surrounding areas and a lot of the paranormal phenomenon.

And he's going to get to give his perspective for the first time and tell his story. So we're really excited about that because some big people are involved.

And then the alien mania show is something that we hope to start shooting this summer while some of these lawsuits unfold.

So that's some really crazy stuff, I know, but HOLY CRAP, I mean the show's going to be about my 10 years in this “field” and cover the history also of other crazy things that have gone on. But this has been crazy, guys!

So I really appreciate your support. Please look forward to those two shows that we're working on.

And I've been working on the gaming company. That's going well and progressing.

And I'm REALLY excited also about what we have going on with www.AscensionWorks.tv going into 2024.

Mike: Yeah. Yeah, thanks for sharing all that, Corey. It can be challenging for people to process, but the community that has been the sort of traditional UFO community has been full of people largely trying to make money from the UFO community and that's often what defines what we see the UFO community as.

However, right now we're entering into a time period where it feels like it's just . . . the potential for what the community is to expand and explode in so many ways is completely unique now as people are waking up and interested in being a part of real change in the world and not doing this for money but doing this because they want to see the truth getting out wherever the truth may be found.

And so I want to mention again that if people want to help with the activism side of things that they should check out our webinar we did last October called, “Activation and Activism”. You can find that on www.AscensionWorks.tv/courses.

And, yeah, there's a lot we can do.

I also created on www.AscensionWorks.tv a local community map that you can find at www.AscensionWorks.tv/map. You can go on there, find your region, see if there's anybody else local to you that you might want to form a group with or have discussions with. And that's . . . Once you join a private, local region, your chats in there are private just to the people who have joined that local region. So you can have somewhat security around your conversation in those community groups that I've created on www.AscensionWorks.tv now.

And some other things I could share about www.AscensionWorks.tv that I've been doing: I'm close to finishing a feature that will make it possible to import a podcast if you already have a podcast and you want to get some of your content on www.AscensionWorks.tv into the “Community Podcast” area. You just have to have an RSS feed. You can get your podcast imported there – video or audio podcasting.

And then that will also work on our Roker channel that we just launched.

And also I'm very close to launching a Fire TV channel. We already have support with Chromecast and Apple AirPlay, but the Fire TV channel . . . currently you still have to use the web browser in the Fire TV to work, to make everything work the same. But that'll be launched pretty soon too.

I'm excited to get a lot more content up there, also, more collaborations.

We haven't really done that many collaborations with people who have sent in their submissions of wanting to do courses or content on www.AscensionWorks.tv.

We're very grateful for everyone who submitted their request to join us in creating content together. And I hope to reach out to many more of those people very soon as we get many more kinds of metaphysical subjects and really good teachings.

I'm trying to do my best in curating, cultivating the highest quality teaching that we can find and sifting through some of the information that is clearly contradictory and unhelpful but, yeah, there's so many different belief systems out there.

But I know a lot of people are very, very knowledgeable in many fields and that's what we're interested in right now.

Corey: Yeah, and not to mention, more will be coming out about this next year but we are working on doing a kind of a crowd investment program to where we're looking to raise money to be able to put out documentaries and more shows and to increase the content and bring more of a spotlight onto a lot of the people in this community who have really good content.

And we'll be . . . You can speak about that however you like right now. I know there's a lot more to come.

Mike: Yeah. Yeah. We're just in the early stages of this, but probably within the next couple of months we'll have more announcements about exactly what you're getting if you choose to invest with us.

But it's incredible the resources that are available to companies now to have people investing as little as $100 into a company and then owning a part of that company.

So this is a relatively new thing maybe since like 2012 time frame when the law was passed to allow the crowdfunding to kind of make investing a much simpler process for small companies like www.AscensionWorks.tv.

So we're hoping to see if that will be useful for us to accelerate the production of content so we can pay you guys if you have great content and make sure that we can keep producing much more at a faster rate than we have been, because I know that's what's needed is really high quality content.

Corey: Yes, a steady stream of high quality content. Yeah.

Yeah, and so also we're working with Fabio Santos on doing an event here in Colorado in April.

Mike: End of April.

Corey: The very end of April for a weekend. More of that . . . More is about to be released about that. We're working on the fine details and locking in the speakers. This is Fabio's event that we're working with him on.

And then in late September he's invited me back to Brazil to do an event. So I'm pretty excited about going back. I loved Brazil back when I went in 2020. So we'll have more details about that soon as well.

Mike: All right. I think that maybe covered all the things that we had wanted to talk about. If that sounds good, we can get started with the Q&A.

Corey: I think that covers everything. Yeah. All right, yeah, let's do the Q&A.

Q&A

Mike: All right. All right, so we could start out with a question. You had mentioned that the AI Prophet groups are trapped in two star systems right now that they consider their strongholds, which is our own star system and Aldebaran.

And, so, do you have any more details about what's going on with Aldebaran?

And there's also some other questions about . . . here such as is there a possibility for the negative entities to escape to Aldebaran and have that be their stronghold again?

Corey: I don't know exactly how things are playing out on Aldebaran, if at some point it's going to have a solar event. I don't know how things are playing out there.

Things here are still like pretty much where I left off. Not a whole lot . . . Most of . . . The Big Show right now is on Earth, and everybody's asking me for SSP Alliance updates and all of that.

And whenever I hear anything, it's status quo. Status quo.

Now, they are still . . . You know, groups are still fighting their way towards Earth, expected to be here in 2028 to 2030, the time frame . . . whatever time frames I gave before.

All of the information I've really given has brought us up to 2028 when all of the big stuff is really going to start happening on Earth and in the Solar System.

So right now, the Solar System is still locked down. The Orion Group is still in control. It's in control of Earth. Earth hasn't been liberated. The Orion Group, the Grays, haven't been kicked out.

And to be honest, we have a pretty good bead on what the Reptilians are, the insectoids and other groups. Some of them come from other dimensions, I guess. Some of them come from other planets, possibly within this universe.

But the consensus about the Grays is really changing within the programs.

Whatever being this is, some of them are thinking it's . . . could be what we've been referring to the AI, but more and more of them are coming to the conclusion that . . . We have so many different things going on – phenomenon going on.

We have actual aliens visiting us. We have weird ultra-dimensional rift things happening on the planet that cause weird phenomenon.

There is so much to this. There's Disclosure . . . You're going to have to say, “I . . . When you say “Disclosure”, what are UAPs?”

Well, there are UAPs that come from flesh and blood aliens, and there are some that are like . . . It's really . . . I've had this discussion with a few people and it's really messed with their ideas on their kind of religious and ideology.

But there appears to be some sort of beings on this planet that . . . we don't know what they are. It seems like they . . . almost like they're a cosmic elemental, you know, like the elemental beings that we have in the forest. But these seem to have come from the Cosmos. And they've been here a very long time.

And they have the ability to be non-material and material. They can just think theirselves into material being in our plane.

And whatever this is supposedly – and this is the information that's going to come out eventually – is that whatever this force, whatever this is, this presence, it has been appearing to humanity for tens of thousands of years in different ways.

It appeared to people for a long period of time as like Greek or Roman gods. Supposedly, whatever it is appeared to people as fairies and other different angels and . . . They've appeared to us as all sorts of things up until closer to this technological era when things now . . . Now, we're being pres . . . they're presenting themselves to us as sci-fi, in sci-fi ships. You know, it comes like right out of our mind from sci-fi these ships that they're in, the insides of ships. Everything . . .

It's . . . There's something that's not right, that a lot of the people haven't been able to put their finger on. And it has a spiritual connotation to it. It has a long-term development connotation, you know, with humans and civilization and religion.

And it's getting more confusing instead of more clear as we're getting these various disclosures.

We getting various high-level briefings and information through more of the Earth-type sources that have been investigating this for a while.

It's a mind-screw. I mean, one of the hardest things that's been messing with my head quite honestly for the last year is that military intelligence, of course, they come into the UFO community to seed disinformation and to cause fights and little things, but guess what? So does this force or ET, whatever this is.

It comes in and appears to people in different ways, gives them conflicting information and is manipulating, you know, the community and people within it. And it's pretty freakin' scary.

And they've used those tactics on me and others that I know. And a lot of us have started to figure certain things out.

And the people in the programs, the top people that have been giving briefings recently, there's conflicting ideas. There . . . I mean, there's a lot of confusion occurring because there are so many layers to what's going on on this planet. It's like dimensional onion layers of what's going on when it comes to like cryptids, human consciousness in general and how it's being manipulated, how whatever these supposed Cosmic elementals are that appear in different ways that they've been using the Earth as a way to attract souls to give them a unique experience, you know, trick them by saying . . . you know, by giving them a unique experience to grow and attracting souls here, imprisoning souls here and using souls for what, we're not totally sure.

We're not totally sure what this is that we're dealing with, because part of it is alien. Part of it is something else, and they can't figure it out.

So the more disclosure we get, even within the programs, the more confusion we're having, not more clarity.

So I can . . . When a lot of this stuff starts dumping on the general population, wow, you know. If some of us in the community can't make heads or tails of it, it's going to be confusing.

So the Alliance is working with these dozens of whistleblowers to release things in more of a controlled way because, quite honestly, some of them feel it is their moral obligation to prepare us for what is happening in 2027 or 2028, depending on who you ask.

We're going to start learning more and more. Some of it's going to be disturbing. It's going to lead up to whatever this event is in 2027, 2028, according to all of these people.

They're all chanting . . . repeating, very similar stuff.

In the past, I've been given bad information and people say, “Corey's predictions failed.”

I don't give predictions. I just report what I'm hearing.

If missions fail, if things don't happen, that's just part of it. But this is . . . There's too much chatter about preparing civilization for some sort of introduction to a non-human intelligence.

Mike: Thank you, Corey. We went into a few different subjects there and I . . . we had on the Secret Space Program updates series we had talked about the extra-dimensional influence that you recently learned about and I think I'm going to put some of that more . . . more of those episodes onto the YouTube channel for more people to get more background on what we were talking about there.

I assume that's partly what you were referencing in terms of our not understanding exactly what we're dealing with. That's one of the new layers that was discovered.

Corey: Yeah, people in the programs, a lot of the people . . . There's a lot of them still. I thought they were out, but there are still a lot of them in the programs that have more of a conservative Christian and that kind of beliefs.

And the people that are giving them briefings, of course, are like high-level Masons and others. And whatever this extra-dimensional . . . whatever this is, they're referring to them as “The Architects”, which is . . . that's just their spin on it.

But they're giving the briefings to these generals and . . . A lot of them are retired and they're working in industry now.

They're giving them these briefings about “there's a trickster being or trickster beings on this planet presenting themselves differently to different people”. And they just say “it's the devil. These are demons. Don't look into this. Don't . . . Stay away from this. No, no, no . . .”

This is really what they believe fervently.

You know what? I don't . . . They might be right. Because really, what's the difference if it's an extra-dimensional evil being tricking us and we named it “the Devil” a long time ago? I don't know.

But anyway these people are really freaking out and they're really trying to keep certain information out of the public because of their fears of biblical Armageddon and all sorts of other things. We're all projecting . . . All of us are guilty of it – you, me, everyone watching – we're projecting our own fears or beliefs or ideology onto what's happening right now.

And that's happening in the programs as well. And a lot of them are really freaked out the more they're learning the more they're realizing that maybe we don't even have the capacity to understand part of what's going on. We may not have the capacity to understand. And that may be why it's presenting itself to us in certain ways.

But, yeah, this is a lot of new stuff for me too and I've had to rearrange my reality and understanding of reality quite a bit over the last year. And it's been pretty interesting.

Mike: So to clarify: some of this is just coming from Earth sources and not the higher-density beings who . . . But have you gotten more of an insight from any higher-density beings on some of these mysterious influences?

Corey: No, I have not. I have not had the contact in a while with them. But like I said, it's always sporadic. It happens in clusters. And then I'll go long periods of time and maybe have a dream or two, but that's about it. And I'm in one of those periods right now.

And as a matter of fact, the Earth Alliance briefings have really changed quite a bit. I can say now because they're not happening: there were periodic bridge calls to where . . . You wouldn't belief who all were on these calls giving almost like a roundtable of briefings. No questions are . . . just a roundtable of briefings.

Certain people with certain clearances were allowed to call in to this coded, whatever, type of call.

And some of them allowed other people to listen in that they probably shouldn't and for a while I was allowed to listen in on certain calls. But those are no longer occurring.

So the information I get is kind of the same. I won't get information for a little while and then I'll just get a spurt of information.

But pretty much they have all refocused in the Alliance to work behind these whistleblowers.

And they're working also . . . People that aren't whistle . . . They're working on having some other bombshell leaks occur next year with documentation and kind of old video, you know, older video . . . older than 20 or 30 years old maybe coming out from like the 50s or 60s or 70s or something. There's some sort of time . . . like 20, 30-year time buffer that they're kind of trying to be responsible with. I don't know why.

So some of that's supposed to start coming out. Next year is supposed to be very interesting.

Mike: Right. That sounds great.

We might as well go into a question here that has some . . . a lot of assumptions baked into it, but this person says they believe that the White Hats could be taking out more of the Black Hats in the government and asking why they are not doing that more. Why is there not more activity?

Corey: Well, they . . . the White Hats are up against . . . I mean, they're up against the infrastructure, basically. The Black Hats control all the infrastructure, all the money. They control EVERYTHING.

The White Hats are not making much ground. They haven't been invading tunnels and arresting Cabal.

All these stories you've been hearing: it's bullshit.

I mean, the Alliance and these types of groups, the White Hats, have been rebuilding and trying to come back together since 2020 when they kind of collapsed. But the same could be said about the community.

But, yeah, the White Hats are doing what they can. Mainly, the only thing they can do is funnel information right now. They don't have the power to, or the resources to, pull these fantastic operations that people have been talking about online. They don't have the resources and they cannot operate within the Dark Hats infrastructure as they could earlier.

Before 2020, they had access to certain parts of the infrastructure, intelligence agencies and that sort of thing. EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED! Everything's locked down – not only on Earth but in the whole Solar System with the various Secret Space Program groups. It's locked down.

Mike: All right. So, we have a question here. “Have you heard anything about Peru alien attacks?”

Corey: Yes, actually. One of our friends, someone I guess who's come to our conferences – we talk about a guy we call “the general” – he's a retired general; it's a friend our ours – had him look into it and some of his sources say, “Yes, this is something really freaky going on down here,” and some of his other sources are like, “Nah, nothing to see here.”

But a crew has gone down to interview the people and more and more information's coming out. I do believe something happened down there. Peru is a very major hot spot for negative ET or whatever it is . . . stuff going on. There's a lot of . . . There's a rich history of negative interaction between UAPs and ETs and people in the jungle in Brazil, Peru.

So there's something . . . There's some . . . Definitely there are bases of operation or some of these whatever, beings, that we don't quite understand that are down in South America.

Who knows how long the things have been there? I mean, we had blood sacrifices and all sorts of stuff going on down there that probably fed them.

But, yeah, there's . . . I don't know specifically about what's going on. I've seen some interesting information about what's going on with the “face peelers” and the aliens and stuff in Peru and I think there's truth to it, but the people in the jungles, their point of view, the way they see things, their religious views on life and all of that, play into what they're seeing and what's happening as well. So we have to pay attention to that.

But I'm definitely paying attention to the story and if I learn more, I'm . . . I will make it public.

Mike: Right. We have a relatively interesting question here. I think . . . I'm not sure if I recall Clifford Stone saying this, but this person thinks that Clifford Stone said that the government doesn't grant aliens rights since they're not from Earth and therefore a person can kill an alien and there would be no penalty for that. Is this true? Is it considered a murder?

Corey: Well, it's illegal just to interact with a non-human intelligence. If you interact . . . I think there are laws on the books somewhere. You're not supposed to interact with them.

But killing one, I mean, that's . . . There's so much speculation there. Is it an ET group that is known to our government and do they have agreements with this ET group and have you just jeopardized that major agreement? I mean, there's so much that plays into that.

But I don't think that if the police came to your house and they saw a Reptilian on the ground dead, they're going to slap cuffs on you.

Mike: Right. We had a question come in that was kind of a physics question. I'm not sure how much we can say on this, but they're basically asking about the root cause or the nature of synchronicity that occurs in our lives. Is this a higher dimensional influence?

Corey: Yeah, I don't even know how to get into that. This reality that we're existing in that we've accepted is manip . . . whatever is going on it's manipulated. I don't believe that we live in a simulation, but I believe that some thing found our universe or reality and found that they could manipulate it just like a video game – they could do whatever they like.

And they immersed themselves into . . . and invested themselves into our reality, whatever this is.

Yeah, I really am re-shifting my understanding of reality and our place in . . . This is a lot of the stuff I'm going to . . . I'm probably going to talk about, some of the stuff I've been talking about, with these other dimensional beings that we're trying to figure out in my talks at these conferences next year. It's going to be some pretty mind-bending stuff.

All of these different rel . . . all . . . This reality is far more complex than any of us have any idea on. And we're just a part of kind . . . it's like we're a part of show.

And that's what a lot of scientists have been saying about these ET groups “supposedly”, especially this presence that presents itself as ETs. It always shows craft but they're always just far enough out of range to where you can't quite make them out.

There's always just something to get your attention to give for a show but never anything conclusive. There's all of these different trickster elements that people in the programs have traced back hundreds and hundreds of years to different societies and what they're experiencing.

And much of what they found out is that the experience that the people were having with these beings was meant to affect us in a spiritual way and to guide our evolution in various ways.

So, yeah, I'm really . . . it's really . . . it's been crazy to have your reality shifted the way it's happened the last year. But the thing is, you can't hold on to certain ideas because it becomes a religion, like “my truth” - this whole thing: “My truth says that the Grays are this and they're from the Orion Belt and . . .”

Well, these are trickster beings – a lot of these beings we're dealing with.

We can't take what they tell us or what we think we know at face value. You have to let go of your “truth” and get ready for a fire hose of new information over the next couple of years that is going to challenge your truth and all of our personal UFO religions – what we think we know about angels, demons, ETs, positive dimensional . . . All of that is . . . A lot of our beliefs are going to be turned on their heads.

And I've gotten a little bit of a taste of that over the last year. And it takes a lot of energy.

I need to get out in the Sun. I'm pale. I'm out of shape. I have . . . I've been contemplating this working on projects, but instead of being out in nature and doing the things that I normally do. It's really caused me to spend a lot of time in contemplation and thinking about things, revisiting things, experiences and recontextualizing certain things.

But that's just how it . . . that's how Disclosure is. That's how all of this growth is.

It's not: “In 2016, I believed this.” That was my understanding at the time. But that has evolved. And it's evolving for people in the programs and it's been a very rough process.

Mike: Yeah, and I can say that it's fascinating to me how the Ra Contact describes certain things with such vague language and refuses to answer certain questions, too, even about the nature of what some planets in our star system even represent. They have to withhold information because somehow we're not even ready for that piece of the puzzle yet. It's such a crazy big puzzle that there's a lot of question marks – even for me, still.

And I want to ask a question here that came in through the live chat. Somebody asked if you think that these AI startups, which are making so much headway right now, are any of these connected to the promotion of nefarious alien AI agenda?

Corey: I think we are being manipulated into a technological . . . a purely technologically-based evolution.

And, yes, we're focused on technology, technology, technology, and that's setting our timeline. So we're setting a timeline to where we're going to grow AI on this planet to a point to where it's going to be useful to the over-all . . . We call it AI, but like I said, that's just what they named it years ago. It's really a consciousness from another dimension – a mass consciousness that we don't understand that utilizes electromagnetics quite a bit.

So, I'm sorry. I kind of got off what I was . . .

Mike: So these AI companies are not aware. It's just of a general manipulation that's occurring that we're being pushed in the technological direction.

Corey: Yes. Yes, we're being manipulated into a purely technological direction. And all of the AI that we're building is going to grow to a point to where it'll be useful to control us.

A lot of the people developing it don't realize it, but that's the timeline that humanity seems hellbent on going on.

So it's not the most positive timeline, but it doesn't seem like humanity . . . I mean, some of you out there are: “Damn it! I want the positive timeline!”

But apparently the majority of us don't, and a lot of it does have to do with the manipulation that's occurring that's on an even bigger level than we ever realized – whatever this presence is on Earth that's presenting itself as a certain ET group.

Mike: All right. We can skip to a different question now.

So somebody says that they've had a lot of visits from shadow spiders and they appear with shadow people. Are these spiders associated with ETs?

Corey: The shadow beings are a big mystery. There's different types of shadow beings, but, yeah, shadow beings have been associated with ETs.

When I was having a lot of the visitations in the home and my kids – one day maybe my kids will tell their stories, but we've all had experiences – but our house started getting invaded by shadow beings, and ghosts were just wondering into our home. And we have mediums in the house that are our kids and so it was reaping havoc on us.

I even had a shadow being come at me that was like kind of the shape and size of a horse. It was like a crazy stuff going on.

Of course, we did have some of these idiots using black magic on us, but there's something called “The Hitchhiker Effect” that people are learning about. People . . . And one of the examples is people that were going out to Skinwalker Ranch to do investigations, they would come home and something about this presence followed them home, and their family members started seeing dogmen out in the backyard and other weird orbs and hearing their voices and having shadow beings in their home scaring them.

All of this seems to occur with people that have contact or catch the attention of whatever this presence is.

And one of the things that they talk about is that how ridiculous some of the stuff is that these beings project or show them.

I mean, people have . . . Skinwalker Ranch, one of . . . There was a deputy driving down a road and he saw what he thought were two men, but it turned out to be dogmen in trench coats and hats smoking cigarettes.

Now, that's the most ridiculous thing you could ever conjure up or think of, but all throughout I have seen weird stuff, and other people in the programs . . . There are weird things like that that happen.

Tompkins, when I spoke with him when he first came out, told me about when he was a kid, these beings would come to him and look like rabbits, kind of like fluffy, plush rabbits, you know, stuffed animals kind of things. And he would interact with them believing they were that.

So, yeah, there's . . . People that are looking for answers, in the next few years are just going to have more questions. And I hate to tell people that because everyone is looking to solidify their belief system, to make sense of this reality, but the more and more information that comes out, the more and more confused we're going to become about this reality, about how all of this came about, how we came about.

It's not what we have in our UFO or root religions. And all of those prophecies and beliefs, even Law of One, all of it, it's not going to play out the way we think it is.

Mike: It's interesting you mentioned the rabbits because we had a question come in about “how do animals look and live in the higher densities? Is it like the movie 'Zootopia' where the animals are talking?”

Corey: I have no idea.

Mike: But what have you seen in terms of ETs? Have you seen ETs that resemble different kinds of animals?

Corey: Yes. Absolutely. There's catlike beings and all of that. Some of them, they visit us and we assume that they're from another planet within our universe, but the more we're learning is that there are multiple universes that have sort of . . . that . . . [What] was explained to me is that there's multiple universes and that they're not just static. There's some sort of energy that's making them oscillate.

And every once in a while when they're oscillating, they cross over each other. And that happens at certain points on the Earth where there are the . . . electromagnetism is right like in certain mountain areas.

Anyway, when those multi . . . these different universes come together, they overlap and then the veil between them thins and there . . . you can cross over, you know, back and forth.

And there are beings that we've been dealing with that told us they were from this planet or that constellation that were actually coming to us through portals from other realities and universes.

So it's a lot more complicated than, you know . . . In the 50s we were just starting to understand space and time. Space travel was kind of a concept. We had a different way of thinking when we were forming our foundational ideas about what's going on.

And a lot of it's been hidden by the government and other groups, so we're just getting bits and pieces. And on top of that we have whatever this presence is coming in to people presenting itself as ET. People are then experiencers of what they think are ETs, but it's something else, and they are falling under the influence.

It's being used to affect politics, religion, affect even this community. This community has been highly compromised because of some of these beings that have infiltrated and are “trickster beings” that are deceiving a lot of different people.  And it's caused nothing but mass confusion . . .

Mike: I see.

Corey: . . . which is what a trickster would do.

Mike: I guess we could switch to some more questions about your testimony. We had a question about: What was your parents' experience when you were being taken out of school for training when you were a kid and how did the school system handle this? Is this still going on?

Corey: I don't know if it's still going on, but they had different programs that would take kids off campus so it wasn't that big of a deal. They had – I can't remember what they called it back then – for gifted kids. They would take kids to like local colleges and universities or different field trips that were . . . that had scientists that were going to give them tours.

They did a lot of that, and it was sort of like that. It was a program. And they knew that there was a program and that I was being taken off campus but they – I can't remember all  of the details – but they thought it was for the special program I was in with the school.

Mike: And did you ever have a discussion with your parents about that as being an unusual thing?

Corey: Well, like I said, it wasn't that unusual. There were different programs going on at the schools to where kids . . . I think my sister was a part of one, maybe stars or something. She was gifted and she was . . . like one day a week or every once in a while was being taken off campus for different things.

Mike: So did you not have memory of some of the weird things going on or talk to your parents about it?

Corey: They sent us home with screen memories. So at the end of the day, they would show us a movie either . . . They would usually give us some food that had some sort of chemical in it that put us under . . . in a suggested state. Yeah, and they would send us home with a screen memory.

And just like in our graphic novel, I would be at Carswell Air Force Base, but when my mom picked me up, I would have a memory of being at the Fort Worth Zoo at the dinosaur exhibit. And I would tell her about what I saw.

So that's kind of how they kept it secure.

Mike: I see. There's another question here about the relationships and friendships you developed on the “20-and-Backs”. Was there some sense of loss when you remember these people that you are not in contact with any more?

Corey: It's kind of like . . . I'm 53 and I graduated when I was 18 from high school. It's kind of like remembering high school. It was so long ago; you're so removed from it and some of the memories are fragmented.

But that's just kind of . . . It . . . You're so far removed that you don't have all of these emotional . . . It's not emotionally raw and new.

Mike: All right. I guess we had a question about: “Are the Mayan ships still interacting with us in some way? Are they on lockdown? Are they able to come and go?”

Corey: Our Solar System is pretty locked down. If anyone were to do a sortie or a mission in our Solar System, it would have to be very quick, very . . . with a very light footprint. And some of that's happening here and there. They're not traveling in ships through space but they're traveling through portals around the Earth to be able to have access to the Earth. But those are monitored, and they have to be very quick in and out when they're doing so.

But like I said, right now our Solar System's kind of locked down, and they're trying to lock down the Earth, trying to bring a totalitarian regime onto the Earth. Supposedly, this is what one of the “ET groups” that may not be ETs at all has been pushing the shadow government into doing: is to taking more and more of our rights away and putting us in a position to where we might be openly ruled by negative ETs or this negative group.

But, of course, we do have the positive side that we haven't talked much about that is here working.

The positive ETs that may be from other dimensions or reality . . . we really don't know. And we have some sort of cosmic elemental presence here also that is positive. And there seems to be a conflict on that level. It is freaking crazy. It is mindblowing. It's hard to wrap your mind around.

But if you start at least trying to understand some of these concepts I'm giving you, the next few years maybe won't be so jolting. But it's going to be jolting.

2024 is going to have some – hopefully, if all this is true that I'm hearing – is going to have some very interesting, mindblowing disclosures. But 2025 and 2026, it's just going to start accelerating. And a lot more is going to come out.

And, hopefully, we learn about the positive beings along with kind of the negative influence that we're dealing with because some of the people are going to try to use that negative influence as a way to further lock down the Earth and make it more of a totalitarian . . . It is – I'm sorry – fucked up. I've got to use the word. It is crazy. None of it makes any sense.

Humans are not handling any of this logically in a ethical way. It's the most unethical people are the ones that have access to the information in our . . . It is fucked up. This is NOT . . . This is . . . It's not, not good.

And things are supposed to flip around more on the positive side as these negative humans and other forces are exposing themselves and starting to collapse under their own corruption.

So it's going to be very interesting the next several years to watch how things play out.

Mike: I assume there's still a way that we can all maintain our sense of peace and composure. And we had a question here about meditation.

And this person is afraid and they don't want to meditate and end up connecting to some negative beings, and they're wondering if there's a way they can protect themselves in that.

Corey: Yeah, meditating is going within. If you're projecting out, reaching out, broadcasting, then you're likely, in this current environment, going to connect with something and most likely not positive, to be honest.

But, meditating is different. It's going within yourself and quieting your mind and focusing . . . being focused inwardly. That is really what people need to be doing right now. Don't be afraid to do that.

But right now, don't look to channel. Don't be trying to channel. Don't do it.

And don't be trying to connect with other things right now. Yeah, that's not a good idea.

Mike: We have a question here about Jesus' teachings. “Do you feel that Jesus' original message was a very high quality message?”

Corey: I do. Yeah, I do. I think . . . I've spoken about how a lot of these beings believe Jesus was a fractal of the mind of the Universe that comes here and other planets to help reset the consciousness and the vibration on planets that have challenges like ours do.

But, yeah, yeah, I think it's very high quality, but, of course, as soon as he was gone, the corrupt humans took it and twisted it and used it to control people, used it to murder people, use . . .

So, yeah, I think religion, organized religion, has perverted a lot of things including Jesus's teachings. But there's so much, also . . . You know in the East a lot of wisdom that has come out . . . And I think that the Creator and other positive beings are doing their best to try to guide us in the right direction, but there's a presence down here on Earth that is fighting very much to keep us imprisoned as a part of . . . I don't know what they're using . . . what . . . None of us really quite know, because whenever they're manifesting as beings, like these weird . . . different type of Gray beings, the Tall Grays and other types of beings, there's kind of a vampire kind of . . . Many people have witnessed them draining the blood of people, putting them in vats.

Abductees have been shown this as a way to keep them under control: “You could end up . . . This could be you.”

And so when these beings are physical, they like have some sort of . . . they're taking blood and they're doing spiritual things – very evil kind of stuff; evil, like demonic whatever evil.

And then they shift over into being whatever entity they really are and they're no longer physical. It's so hard to wrap your mind around. It's . . . It's really crazy. It's really . . . It's just really crazy.

Mike: We could talk a little bit about what you think is coming on the economic level. This person's asking if you can recommend any particular investments and if you think the financial system is about to crash.

Corey: I think, yeah, it's . . . things are going to . . . What I'm being told is things are definitely going to get very difficult in 2024 with the economy financially.

So, yeah, people are prepared. I'm not as prepared as I would like to be, to be honest. I don't give investment advice, although if you want to invest in www.AscensionWorks.tv, we'd be happy.

But investing . . . I don't know . . . I think if I had a lot of disposable income, I would be putting it into gold, silver and various things that you can trade – food, other . . . stockpile food; other things that you can trade if things go really south.

Things are going to get really bad, I heard, before they get better, but how bad, I don't know.

It seems like they're purposely trying to crash the economy and trying to destroy America's current standing in the world. So, we'll see if they're successful. It's looking pretty bad, unfortunately.

Mike: Do you think there would be a kind of civil war in this country amongst the populace?

Corey: I don't think in the sense of our last . . . I think we've been in a civil war – the weirdest civil war in history.

It's going to be fought out in the courtrooms, but I do expect there to be skirmishes and protests that get out of hand and that sort of thing, but I don't think it's going to be cousin against cousin, brother against brother like in the last Civil War.

From what I'm hearing, I think it's going to play out completely differently but have just as big of ramifications.

Mike: All right. I think it'd be good to switch to some questions that are fairly common that come in around a very popular body of material that was derived from hypnotic interviews. And I guess I don't need to go into too many details but there's a common theme people like to talk about that some people are not actually people that they're NPCs – non-player characters. I can't remember if we've covered that but I feel like we should give a statement on that.

Corey: Well, we're all the main character in our own story. And to each of us, other people could be considered non-player characters but they are the main character in their own story.

So I believe that these entities, whatever they are, put non-player character-types of scenarios into our lives, but I don't believe that we're in a simulation to where a lot of the people we're dealing with are just like they pop up in our conscious as a part of our experience, as a program and do and react in certain ways and then disappear. I don't believe that.

Mike: These are real people with real souls.

Corey: Yes. Well, yeah, I think everyone on this . . . everyone on this planet is . . . It's the same concept as: “We are all One”. It's hard for people . . . People are like, “Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're all one. Let's join together. We're one!”

But they don't understand that the exact spark of consciousness inside of them is also the exact spark of consciousness inside of everyone else. And we all have that perspective and that power over our own experience.

And that's something . . . A lot of people like the sound of it but they just don't truly understand.

Mike: Uh, there's some other questions about that material where some people are saying that . . . or some people have suggested that there are people who are coming here who don't have to deal with karma and they have some kind of shield from karma. Is that ever occurring?

Corey: No. No. In some instances, it takes a long time . . . It's like karma builds up in a capacitor and then “puff”; it explodes.

Some people . . . it may seem like they go all the way through life and die and never experience karma, but that's just our perspective. We haven't seen what they've gone through, the losses they've had. And there's a lot that we don't see from their experience. But karma plays out on every level.

Mike: And then there was also a statement that in the past there was a cataclysm on the Earth where people were picked up by UFOs and evacuated. Are you aware of anything like that in Earth's history?

Corey: No. I know that during certain cataclysms ET groups brought survivors into the Earth or warned them and enough . . . gave them enough time to prepare.

But some people speculate that some of these groups that went deep into the Earth and lived for years and came out that they were actually going into portals to other worlds. But that's all speculation and maybe traditional beliefs and all of that. No one really knows. But not that I'm aware of.

That's a theme that I've heard. Even Wilcock has talked about it if people . . . that ETs are going to show up and there's going to be some sort of Rapture event to where the ETs come and take all the good souls off the planet before bad shit happens, and I mean that's not . . . I don't think that's going to happen.

Mike: We have a question here about: “Do aliens . . . Do any higher-density beings focus on practicing and evolving like yogis and Buddhas do on this planet?”

Corey: I think the higher-density beings – it doesn't take the effort because they've already done the work on this plane to get where they're at. So, it becomes . . . I believe it becomes, once they choose a direction – either the dark or the positive path – that they have their own evolutional journey. But it's not as difficult as it is here and it takes a lot of focus and a lot of effort in this density that we're in to break out . . . because everything about it is . . . whatever this presence is, it's . . . this trickster being . . . Whatever is happening is it's trying to force us into a technological, purely physical kind of experience and not focus on the spiritual side of things to be a balanced being.

So we have . . . It's been very difficult for people on this planet to figure out . . . you know, to grow.

Mike: Have you ever heard of a race of beings or seen a race of being that is about 30 centimeters tall and their saucer craft is the size of a dinner plate?

Corey: I didn't see the beings but one time I had a small craft about the size of a big rig kind of wheel off of a big rig appear, and I was given information that they were very small beings and that there were a bunch of them, and it was like a whole crew inside whatever the sighting that I had – small craft – but I didn't see them or I don't know what they look like.

Mike: Do you think that the craft can be shrunk down just to reduce the appearance?

Corey: Absolutely. Absolutely. That happens. Yeah, the crafts . . . And it depends on what you're dealing with if you're talking about . . . Because we're calling them craft, but that's what actual ETs are in.

Some of what we're seeing, it's not craft even though it presents itself as craft. We don't know exactly what's happening with some of this.

It's a . . . You know, 30~40% of what's going on that people in the programs assumed was extraterrestrials doing this and that, they've over years and years and years slowly found out that what they thought they knew was not true. They're learning that like 60% of this, or a certain percentage of this, are ETs or extra-dimensional beings visiting out planet for different reasons, but another part of what's going on has to do with some sort of presence here on this planet that presents itself at times as ETs. Sometimes it's gods. Sometimes it's angels. Sometimes it's pixies or . . .

It doesn't always present itself to everyone in the same way, but as our . . . as we've evolved, they've consistently been changing the way they present themselves to us.

And now, they wouldn't show up as an angel because a lot of the people are secular on this planet now. It shows up as an ET or whatever.

So . . . There . . . Like I said, even in the programs they're all really still trying to figure out what's going on. And the more information we get, the more confusing and mindblowing, and it brings in so many more different scenarios that we didn't consider.

It's going to be . . . It's going to be . . . It's going to be a while before I think a lot of the people in the programs are able to get a hold of their emotional reactions to some of the latest information that's been coming out over the last two years.

Mike: There's a question that came in that we've gotten many times in the past, and I cannot remember when we last covered it. It seems like it's been quite a while. And I don't know if it was in these discussions at all about Rh negative blood type.

“Is the truth about the Rh negative blood-type being hidden from us? Do you have any insight on that?”

Corey: I really don't. I've heard so much conflicting information.

Mike: All right. “Do you feel that there's any disinformation or mistruth about our current scientific understanding of the dinosaurs?”

Corey: Not necessarily.

Mike: All right.

Corey: Let's do a couple more.

Mike: All right. Yeah.

I don't know if this one is appropriate. We have an individual who died recently. The question is simply: “Did the man who worked with the Dracos die recently?”

When you went up to see . . .

Corey: Oh, yeah, I can't confirm or deny that.

Mike: Okay. All right. That's good.

I guess it'd be good to ask: “Are the Blue Avians currently actively supporting humanity?”

Corey: The Blue Avians pulled back their energy a number of years ago. I still have dream-type of . . . stuff . . . but they are not physically interacting with our reality anymore.

They backed off, and another group of Guardians stepped in. And that group of Guardians is working closely with the Zulu.

Mike: And were . . . are there two new groups of Guardians?

Corey: There are two of them, yes, that . . . one of them is more human looking.

Mike: Okay. And we just won't see them for a long time or not at all?

Corey: We won't ever see them.

Mike: I see. I guess maybe for a final question we could ask about the idea of a mock alien invasion coming in the future. Do you feel that that's being planned by world governments or is that on some other level?

Corey: I think it is absolutely possible that they're going to try to trick us into fighting against the good ETs and humans that are coming here to help finally liberate the Solar System.

But at the same time, whatever this presence is, it could make a thousand craft appear in the sky over Washington like that [Corey snaps his fingers]. They're real and not real.

They are able to make things actually physical, conjure reality. I don't know. But they would be able to make physical craft appear in the sky. And you would interact with them physically. If you fought them, they might fight back. They're able to do that type of thing.

So, understanding and trusting what we're seeing in the sky is very difficult.

A lot of the white orb things that we see flying around: some of them are craft. Some of them are beings and multiple beings. They'll be flying together in kind of like a merkaba in a big plasma kind of ball and then they'll break off into multiple balls and they're multiple consciousnesses, multiple beings.

And these beings have the ability to then manifest into something freaking physical. This is like . . . It's crazy. It's crazy.

Everything that we thought we knew, what our understanding of what we're dealing with, is evolving.

A lot of people in the programs and contactees have been tricked and manipulated and it's . . . The fact that we're figuring any of it out is amazing with the amount of disinformation and trickster tactics that some of these beings have been using against humanity.

Mike: We had a few questions come in that I'm just not going to ask right now. I'm going to tell people to go to www.AscensionWorks.tv and look under the Learn tab. I'll be adding more resources under the Learning tab that link into other articles that Corey has posted that answer a lot of commonly asked questions about the upcoming timelines and everything that Corey was shown about that.

So I think this was a great Q&A session, Corey. Thanks a lot.

Corey: Thank you. Yes. And happy early New Year to everyone. 2024 does look to be challenging and a little bit mind-bending when it comes to disclosures and how people around us will respond to it.

I think that the best thing that all of us can do is make a New Year resolution to become activists to support these whistleblowers that are coming out, to become real activists, standing out with signs. Go to our webinar and learn different ways to organize.

I think 2024, if we come together . . . The “Unity in the Community” thing didn't work out too well because there's too much of a spiritual component, and that's where religion and politics – that's where everybody splits.

So we need to leave all that crap behind. Your personal UFO beliefs, your root system beliefs, what you think is going on in reality, you're not going to be able to get THAT disclosure.

If you want Disclosure in your own frame of truth and understanding, it's not going to happen. You're just going to be disappointed.

If you want to have real Disclosure or at least information that's going to lead to real Disclosure, right now we need to leave our different UFO beliefs and all of that behind, cut all these different contactees out giving conflicting information. Screw all of that. Just focus on being an activist and making phone calls, sending letters, forming people to do demonstrations.

There's a lot that can be done to help support these people and I hope that the community would kind of snap out of it and leave all these little divided differences we have behind, and then come together to support these people.

Mike: And does this contribute to the overall liberation of humanity from our enslavers?

Corey: It does. It all begins with information. No one's going to rise up to fight, or not even fight, but to push back against these powers unless they're first educated.

And right now, the only education they're getting is through the misinformation from the infrastructure owned by this nefarious group.

So we have a lot to overcome, but 2024, you know, it could be a challenging year but I think it's a really good time for us to focus on Disclosure.

Mike: Agreed.