All right. I guess we could start diving into the quotes if you're
ready.
I I reviewed them again
the one the list that I had sent you and I decided on
an order of which maybe two to discuss
first.
And I think this is this it to kind
of balance out the last recording that we did. I think
it's good that we cover the energy centers a lot more in this
one because for me I feel like the
you know, we could talk about the philosophy of intelligent Affinity
intelligent energy and doesn't necessarily relate to
our comprehension of what what it
is that this means practically for our
Evolution until you see the how the
chakra system is basically like a system of sequential blockages
until we comprehend intelligent Infinity
properly.
So
the philosophy of it really can't touch the the
actual experience of it. I don't think and the
experience of it is directly connected to our ability to work
through the blockages I think.
I got this footnoted and
ready. It's the
the
our manual
that we that we had and it was written by the two
guys that taught us and just you know completely hard
open guys.
they had a way with words being in the class with them was was just an
experience and
they have
each page is a little
there's like a little write-up on each.
That coming through because it's kind of sketchy in the bottom frame of mind hard to
see so what was this class? This was ayurveda class.
This was um for me it was the they handed
this one out in the original 200 hour course, and then the
Deep dive of the course is what
Alex took and they really opened this
subject up, but this is a great
It's like a paragraph to like three
paragraphs to describe each one and they
give you you know, like a brief description
of the chakra gives you what it's
um, bija Mantra, which is his root
Mantra and the color the element that
of course to but really more the description.
It really pulls open what you were talking
about with the practical application of the chakra
and and the way you can utilize it
in your everyday life.
It'd be good to know if there's anything that you feel is missing after.
I don't know if we can go into the detail on.
I mean, it's very fascinating that a lot of what we're talking about
essentially is
There somewhere in the ancient systems,
although I think that now today
there's so many different layers on interpretations of
it that it doesn't seem as clear to me as
Ross version of it does.
But I'm always trying to figure out what what is it that I'm missing. That's the
deeper understanding that I haven't gotten yet.
That maybe maybe is is more to be
revealed in some of these teachings that are passed down
for so long.
And and the fact that they've been passed down
and stayed consistent for so long is like you said they they
get interpretations laid on them
and for you to find someone that seems like they
really have a true understanding of it.
You know that can be a difficult challenging and
of itself but this you know 1986 they stopped
taking the recording. So there's only you know, 50 years
between you know, the beginning of
it and now where and it's written
down verbatim. So, you know people have written books on it, but
you still have the transcripts.
Whereas how many people know?
Sanskrit so that they can read the original transcripts of
that or you know, how many people read the ancient Hebrew
so that they can do
You know study with Andrew studying in the Sephora.
Yep, they call. Yep.
All right. Let me share my screen now.
And I thought we could start out with.
A 12.31 which was basically like
a continuation of where we started these discussions
with the healing subject.
And this might be the first time they got into details on the
energy centers.
But I felt like it wasn't until session.
39 that they
they kind of went more into a general
overview that seemed to be the most complete overview of
the energy centers.
or the most generally foundational descriptions
and then it was in session 30 are
session 15 that they went into the blockages. So it
was fairly early on that. They wanted a blockages before
they went into some other descriptions. Yeah. So
let's start out with such 12 here.
And Don asked is there a best
way for entities to heal themselves of their physical ailments?
And Ross said the self-healing discourse.
The self-healing Distortion is affected through realization of
the intelligent Affinity resting Within.
so this to me suggests that they're they're saying that
the the best way is like miracle
healing and that that
to me it seems to be why they went straight to the idea of
Realization of intelligent Affinity which I think might also
correspond to the concept of self-realization.
and the Hindu cultures
I know that might have many different meanings though, too.
Yeah, the concept of samani and
Enlightenment basically and I'm kind of made that
corollary before too between Lisa samadi States.
I'm sure Nick can probably elaborate a little more on there,
but there's different levels of Simoni that one can reach as well.
And actually contact with intelligent Infinity
I think is probably at least the highest level of somati there.
Just one closest to Enlightenment, but
I think at least looking at the beginning quote there that realization
of intelligent Infinity. I think that has to do with
the he talks about the outward spiraling light and the downward spiraling light.
The downward is the one that's within you.
That is the creator already. So becoming aware
of that is basically the best way to heal at
least at least my interpretation of it, but
that doesn't involve also processing the upward
spiraling light through all the energy centers to be clear
enough to to have that realization. Yeah. I
think the realization must be
wherever the the meeting point is
between those right?
Mm-hmm the locus and call it of yeah, where that where
the two meet.
So this
realization is blocked in some
way.
I think I'm really saying that right. The self-healing Distortion is affected
through realization of the intelligent Affinity resting Within.
Or maybe they're saying the intelligent Infinity resting within his blocked
but they say this is blocked in some way and those
who are not perfectly balanced and bodily complexes.
The blockage varies from entity to entity. It requires
the conscious awareness of the spiritual nature of reality.
If you will in the corresponding.
Pourings of this reality into the individual Mind Body
Spirit complex for healing to take place.
That's always been the upward spiraling for me. Like the
upward spiraling is the experience and the downward
spiraling is intelligent infinity. And you
know, how you deal with your debt like like where they meet is
just constantly changing.
Could you know as your day changes as your
mood changes as you deal with the reality? It's
almost like you know, how much how much love are
you bringing into each situation how much fear you bringing in each situation?
And and it's it's that that constant like
almost like slider test part type thing with your
experience meeting the intelligent Infinity.
I wonder if that's also the intelligent Infinity coming downward is
what they mean by the spiritual nature of reality.
I wonder if the the idea of the downward aspect
whether wherever it's reaching
you is is the sense of the spiritual.
I'm not sure though. Yeah, I I always thought
that the awareness of spiritual reality is
exactly that because
The this this spiritual the spiritual nature of
reality is always there. It's your awareness that that
varies.
Yeah.
So it's actually conscious awareness is required. So
I guess it's not just unconscious process to heal yourself requires a
conscious awareness.
And the corresponding awareness of
both the spiritual nature of reality and the corresponding pourings of
this reality into the individual Mind Body Spirit
complex for healing to take place.
And then
they say we'll use this instrument Carla as an example the portions
of its ailment all this Distortion complex. They
can be perfected in balance.
Our due primarily to a blockage of the Indigo array or
pineal Energy Center.
So Carla had a blockage in her pineal gland.
This receives the intelligent energy.
from all sources lawful within the One Creation that
is
lawful in this third density Distortion or Illusion
That's an unusual.
word for me that they used lawful
Um, yeah kind of got tripped up on that one too. If that
meant like the natural laws then of this third density illusion,
or if it meant something a little
different there, maybe the you know, like the law of Free Will
is allowing certain amounts of energy to come into coming to our
body come into our being I guess the laws are relating
to you know, the way the physical universe is
working.
And and you know,
you can't fully be an enlightened being.
Because you're here to have this experience. So, you know,
she can't no one can fully Ascend while
being in the physical form, you
know.
This this um, the the crown
chakra I I went back and I reread these descriptions and
one of them might get it. I've actually
just put a little tag next to it might because
it says
Let me see. We'll be good.
It makes us Fearless direct and unconditionally. Yes, it makes
us Fearless direct and unconditionally devoted to the maintenance of
a higher order.
But let me I'll read the whole paragraph
because we'll make more much more sense. The opening of the third eye leads
us to an understanding which is unlimited by form
or by the constraints of physical laws funny
how they brought up laws again.
Why they constrain a physical laws through the third eye we are able to see right
into the nature of things. We no longer resist or
even control the way in which the universe chooses to
operate. We simply play A Part as long as
energy is circulating within this Center. Nothing can
be jeopardized.
Nothing can jeopardize our Clarity. We
recognize the essence of a situation the cause
in addition to the effect we can do this
because we are informed by our higher understanding no
more. Are we tricked by the ways things
may appear The Awakening of this Center
breached tremendous faith. It makes us
Fearless direct and unconditionally devoted
to the maintenance of a higher order. And when
I reread that when I was going over
these things I thought of I don't
even remember what the commercial was for but it was like the commercial
where a camel walks into the room and he's like he's
talking about it being hump day on Wednesday and he's like Mike Mike.
What day is it? Like and your name
just kept popping into my head when I read those last two lines
like Fearless direct and unconditionally devoted to maintenance
of a higher order.
Yeah, but I think you're you're sick. Chakra is
definitely firing man. Thanks. Yeah.
well
Yeah, Carl Recker was clearly
Working on that Center a lot too as they
bring up that as the reason that she had any health ailments to
begin with was because of this.
Particular blockage that was
in the pineal Center. I'll keep reading though to cover what
they say. That was.
But they're saying the center receives the intelligent energy
all sources lawful within the One Creation.
If there is no blockage these energies pour or stream
down into the Mind Body Spirit complex.
perfecting Moment by moment the individual's body
complex
So I guess the laws are no longer necessary when
there's no
blockage.
Because at least go ahead sorry at
the point you'd be contacting intelligent energy at
that point. So you're making you're basically becoming the
logo at that point you are tapping into all of
that available energy to then be able to heal the
body complex and and perfect everything at that point
if you're able to
Make that contact at the through the Indigo Ray.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah, it seems like the I guess the the nature of
law is is one where it's not about.
maintaining the Free Will of the person being
healed
it's about
I guess becoming more of a transparent radiator of
that energy.
And they say it a genuine seeking
from the one to be healed.
You know like the the universe will heal you but
you have to have genuine a genuine seeking.
Yeah.
And and they go on this instrument also experiences some Distortion
of the green rain or center of the Heart Center, which you may
call The Heart Center. It is overly open due to
an intensive desire distortion.
On the part of this Mind Body Spirit complex towards service
to others.
So overly open is maybe not as common as
closed for people, but her heart center was
overly open.
Due to an intensive desire distortion on the part of this
Mind Body Spirit complex towards service to others or as you
may call it Universal love.
This entity therefore spends itself.
Spends itself without regard to its reserves of
Mind Body Spirit complex Distortion in regard
to what you call strength or energy. She didn't have enough energy reserves. She
was depleting herself.
This Distortion is primarily due to the blockage of the
Indigo Ray.
As we have said before the misapprehension Distortion of
the instrument responsible for this blockage.
The best apprehension is the basic orientation towards a
belief and unworthiness.
They unworthiness Distortion blocks the free flow of intelligent
energy.
Yeah, I think that's interesting
that kind of shows the relationship between some of the other energy centers
as well too that because of due to her feeling of
unworthiness. She then is opening up to be
of service but to a point where it's almost the martyrdom
to where it's affecting her doesn't have
the wisdom, I guess to then balance. What what level of Love
is is acceptable to be shared. But yeah, I
thought that was kind of interesting. It just shows how a lot of these other
blockages can then impact some of the other energy centers and relate
to additional issues that that might not have been
been realized. Yeah. It's also seems to
speak to the balance between compassion and wisdom.
And the the wisdom necessary to withhold
the energy would be something that
comes from the I guess the psychic or
intuitive awareness or higher order
awareness that may come through the third eye.
It's probably why she had that martyrdom proclivity towards
martyrdom the thought of not being Worthy.
Yeah.
Yeah, this this um set in the
in the first chakra center. It's basic needs
of survival. Your second chakra Center is basic
needs and acceptance of self. But then where
it gets really interesting is the third chakra the
manipura is considered a power chakra
and it says that
It embodies Fierce intensity
unsurpassed by the other chakras relaxation in
the first chakra means that we have learned to trust
life relaxation in the second chakra means
that we have learned to accept ourselves relaxation in
these two first two chakras paves
the way for the energy to rise to
the third chakra when it does this we find that trusting
in ourselves is the same as trusting in
life. We realize that we are not separate from the
very power that is created us and then
if I skip down a little bit so maybe a
little bit disjointed but it's it goes on to say towards
the bottom it says
However, it is important to understand that this power which
manifests inside of us as our
talents and abilities succeed achieve does not
set us apart as special rather. It
exists to bring us closer to others like our
breath. It is something that we share and when
I read that I thought of Carla because it does
not set us apart as special. You
know, that doesn't have to mean that people are cocky it can also
mean that people think that you know that the power is
so special that they take a back seat to
it when in reality you have to realize that, you know
to live within that power is to recognize that
you are of that power and you are that power.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a good point. We'll jump into the the rest
of the chakras after this quote, too.
Yeah.
I'll finish the reading this this one to the end
here.
So the seventh are Violet Ray is unimpaired the
crown chakra this being not only an energy receptor, but
some total of the vibratory level of the individual.
The internet the other energy centers are also quite clear.
The solution to healing in this case is action that
puts into practice the peaceful understanding and humility
Distortion that the entity is one with the Creator.
therefore perfected and not separate
in each case of what you would call ill health. What are
more of these energy centers is blocked intelligence of the Mind
Body Spirit complex needs then to be alerted either
by the self as healer or by the Catalyst of
another healer as we have said before.
so
in session 39
and as you guys have any thoughts do you want to share on this last paragraph though?
did
The the top the crown
chakra just it's it's described in
so many different ways it right this simple
fact that it sits like above the head.
It's it's almost like if you played like
a video game and you had that little Beacon above your character's head,
you know it, you know, you have to have everything coming
up through for that to be charged and
for that to be projecting and they're
they're certainly not a downplaying in this.
Yeah.
yeah, it seems like it's rare for
me to see a description of the
the crown chakra in in other sources that
matches what raw was saying where it's something that can't
be blocked. It's something that is just kind of like the summary.
the the sum total of vibratory level at the individual
Yeah, that's what I was thinking when you were
talking about that earlier. Awesome. The other Traditions have slight different slightly different
interpretations of what each of those energy centers my
represents and this Violet Ray and the
red ray tend to be one of those where I feel like they're a little
bit of discrepancies between them. But yeah, at least this first
time I'd seen that before Ron talks about it being the
total readout. So something that can be unaffected that way
which kind of makes sense and almost is like
you're individual soul identity also representing your
level of where you're at by this Violet Ray
read out.
Yep.
And I have to because it just it's amazing
that the these two guys. I mean
you could feel it when you're in the classroom, but the stuff that they say just they had
no idea of the law of one either because I asked and they
wrote this stuff simply from the
teachings that they read and had no connection says the
crown chakra is not really a chakra but more
point of arrival it sits on the crown of the head like
a cat associated with and says
the center is not prone to obstruction.
When the paths have been opened in the other chakras, nothing can
stop this center from exploding with joy, there are
no thoughts or emotions which can enter into the
field of this Center. It is like trying to approach the
sun. It engulfs anything in its path.
And I thought it was funny that they used.
approach the Sun and we're talking about being
you know sub low guy of the sun and the
sun being a sub low guy of you know,
but it just seems that when people are connected this stuff flows through
them.
Yeah, definitely. It seems like it's more obvious when you actually
have that full when you do have a connection with intelligent Affinity.
I think these these ideas become more clear.
So yeah, I'm gonna remember to bring this with me and let you
guys see it. Thanks. I don't know if you could share the names for
the recording purposes of this who wrote
it. Yeah.
Yeah, it was a um Shiva Das and what
was Ed's name?
acharya Promenade
criminant
And I know that a
Charlie criminal also went as Ed zadlo,
but I yeah, it's adlow, but
I know Shiva does preferred to go with Shiva does.
But I don't even know if there's I
I don't think they're still teaching at this point.
They're on the East Coast. They're in, Pennsylvania, Philadelphia
area.
Yeah, it's pretty cool. It'd be great to learn more from them.
Yeah, I mean it was it was a it was
quite a treat to to learn what I learned from them.
Alex said she's working with Ed on the that ayurvedic
Workshop. We were talking about putting together for Ascension Works TV. Excellent.
Yeah, that's great.
I'll have to get in touch with them Shiva Dawson. Let him
know what's going on and get him up to date with all this and see
if he wants to get involved. Yep. Yep. We
can talk about that for sure more later. Yeah. Yeah,
so we could jump in now to session 39
where they Don asked I
sense there is fruitful ground.
For investigation of our development and tracing the evolution of bodily
energy centers because these seven energy centers seem
to be linked with all the seven the seven sevens that I spoke
of previously in central to our own development.
And they're also say this represents the seven
densities of evolution of all Universe of
all the life in the universe.
Could you describe the process of evolution of these bodily energy centers
starting with the most primitive form of life to have them
and Ross said
this has been covered before to some extent therefore. We
should not repeat in repeat information, but
Upon which raised well in first and second
density and wherefore is of this but will attempt.
to enlarge upon this information, so
There were bits and pieces before this that will cover after this. But
this was this is a pretty good overview. I think to start with
the basic pivotal points
of each level of development. That is each density Beyond
second, maybe seem to be as follows.
Personally the Basic Energy of the so-called red ray.
This rate may be understood to be the basic strengthening Ray for
each density.
It shall never be condescended to as less
important or productive of spiritual evolution.
Or it is the foundation rate.
And this is always been a little bit mysterious to
me.
About the nature of the strengthening Ray and
how it strengthened.
and I and it's
like you can't you can't work on it in a
In any very obvious way as far as I can tell that there's there's many
different.
Aspects of our physical body
I assume aspects of our energy maybe the food that
we're eating that well they will help us as our
body is as healthy and working properly.
and maybe maybe it relates to Sexual Energy, you know, maybe it
relates to vital energy that that
is just kind of present when we have
a strong will something like that.
You guys have anything I think that Sexual Energy
certainly is the next one. But as far as
everything else. Yeah, I I think
it if you want to work from the physical to the
mental to the spiritual then everything you said absolutely.
Then when you get to the the mental aspect
it is a it is
a knowing that you are a part of the Creator and
that your needs will be met and when you
are deficient in this Ray, you're wearing that your
needs won't be met. You know, this is this is the the
fear side of it, you know wearing an anxiety
that
There will be you know, if we're talking
about neanderthals that there won't be food. I won't have fire.
I won't be warm talk about modern society. I won't
have the money to to survive how I want to so
there's definitely
there's definitely a way you can work on it on the
mental side and the two probably very closely
play off of each other, you know, let me work hard so that
I can have the proper nourishment so that I won't worry that I won't have
it. You know, they may kind of like that each other back and forth.
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like this is one. I've heard like debates on since they say this race
fixed if it could actually be blocked or not. At least the red Way Red
Ray opening up to it, but it seems like it can be
to certain levels block because then impacts how
much energy is coming up through the rest of your energy system
from there. But it also I forgot how
it's worded before or another parts of the text there but
Ron indicates that this Ray is almost pulling experiences to
the individual. So what
what you see in daily life is all these
experiences being pulled to you and that's through this red ray.
So in strength thing that I think that could
possibly be to how it how it might impact some of the other densities or
strengthen them if it's opened and clear to
to the proper.
proper amount
Yeah, and you know, I think
at some point he says, you know, the the core the corporeal
experience. I remember him saying that somewhere
in the in the text and that is
I mean that is of the earth that is and I
don't want to you know narrow it to Earth.
That is of a planet that is of physical existence,
you know raw at
the point when he's telling L&L research
these things.
Raw as a memory complex is is more
ethereal. They can choose to take physical form, but
they've graduated or experienced enough physical
to where they've gotten beyond that. And I
mean again it is
it is this Center links us deeply to the Earth. It
is therefore solely concerned with our harmonious relationship
with issues that directly pertain to
our life in the most basic sense higher ideas
Yearning For Love truth compassion emotionality
creative expression and
spiritual concerns are simply not relative
here basic needs of survival are the
only issues that apply to the root movement of
energy through this Center removes these fears and
then skip down a little bit. It says the root requires
attention patience and persistence.
and that that's so
I mean those three words are exactly The Human Experience.
You have to give it attention. You have to give it patience
and you just you have to persist because there are
ups and downs.
Yeah, maybe I would like to read the
My favorite quote I probably
should have started with this actually on the on the
energy centers.
Has has the paragraph that summarizes all
of them?
with you know a simple phrase and they
say each experience will be sequentially understood by
the growing and seeking Mind Body Spirit complex in terms
of survival, then in terms of personal identity
then in terms of social relations
Then in terms of universal love.
The green then in terms of how the experience maybe get free communication the
blue then in terms of how the experience maybe linked
to Universal energies, which is interestingly that that that was
corresponding to the sense of unworthiness that
we were talking about before and already
implying that a sense of worthiness is connected
to a universal energy.
Yeah, and where you feel like you you?
For lack of a better word stand in relation to it next to
it ahead of it or in her case behind. Yeah.
And finally in terms of the sacramental nature of each experience.
But this particular question here
went into more of what we're talking
about with the inner and outer Nature's upward and downward lights. And
the question was what process would
be the recommended process for correctly Awakening as they
say the Kundalini and what value would that
be and Ross said the metaphor of the coiled serpent being
called upwards is vastly appropriate for consideration by people's
This is what you are attempting when you seek.
There there are as we have stated great misapprehensions concerning
this metaphor and the nature of pursuing its goal.
We must generalize and ask that you grasp the
fact that this in effect renders party less useful
that which we share.
However, as each entity is unique generalities are
are a lot when communicating for your
possible edification.
So they're saying
it's important not to generalize when we're trying to understand this.
But in order to have some sense of it
collectively, this is what
we have to generalize.
I think that speaks to something that
he talks about.
Prior in the material how the the heel
the Healer patient comes in
so many vast different forms. I think
it was.
Because I just got past that it said.
it's in 14 for
or it was in the forest somewhere.
But they were saying, you know are there are there people on the
planet that can
they were talking about the pyramids at the time but but Ross Rob
was kind of like nudging them away from the pyramids because
he was like the pyramids time has passed, you know,
that was to help the initiates become initiates so that
they could become healers. Now it basically saying like now you're in the
time of the Healer and then he said well, are there anybody
in on the planet now that can be healers that can be
that can build pyramids and heal themselves and repeat the process and
Ross said there are so many different ways that you
can approach it. But most people bring it
from previous incarnations. I think that's what he's talking about. Like
you have to generalize because there are so many
different ways to get about it. But at the root of it when you're talking about it
yourself you you have to be specific because you
know you but when you're talking to other Mind Body Spirit
complexes, you have to be General because you can be talked
about the same thing in different ways.
Yeah.
I think it's interesting that first part
there when they're talking about the this is what you're attempting to
do when you seek so that seems to be like the driving
force whether you realize it or
not as you were attempting to raise your Kundalini through the desire
to continue seeking and knowing and what does
that ultimately end at it ends at becoming the Creator?
So that's what you were ultimately seeking then is becoming
the Creator but it just makes sense when everyone you
know, I have a lot of people who are constantly looking for more and more material more
and more understanding but really this is what you
are attempting to do then is to raise that Kundalini
energy to ultimately become and understand
the Creator we all are
Yeah.
it's like we start out as the or at least we're operating
as The uncoiled Serpent and the coiled
serpent is is pulling up the
I guess it's really about also crystallizing the
lower energy centers so that the area in
which we're working.
Is is where the serpent is coiled up
to and yeah, we'll talk about the crystalization in
a later quote the crystalization of the energy centers.
um, I have not put that much thought into the
I don't think about a coiled serpent way what I think about the energy centers,
but it's interesting that.
You know the that they're actually is a visual visualization.
That might be of help.
do you guys use the relations at all of something coming
up within within your energy system when you're
oh, yeah, and I think that all of
the modern technology, you know as much as I Buck technology and
and and don't jive
with it as much as I should there are
so many things that modern technology the visualizations alone,
you know, if you watch if you watch a program
and they're talking about your energy centers and I
don't even I don't I don't know if it's gonna show but you
know just that just something like something like
that, you know to visualize the
chakras as this beaming Center in
the in the person it can it can
truly help. You know, they say people are visual Learners. Some
people are visual Learners, you know, you can get a
lot from it. Look at hieroglyphs hieroglyphs are entirely pictures,
you know that you interpret and there are ton of
snakes hired Bliss. So snake is
definitely something that's been used and used
I know native of some Native American tribes because in
some of my dream inter
mutations snakes keep kept and keep
coming up and when I looked it up,
Certain tribes said that snake is wisdom. So
if you're running from a snake in your dream you're running
from wisdom.
so let's
continue here with
we have two types of energy. This is what we're talking
about earlier.
We are attempting then it's entities and
true color of this octave.
To move the meeting place of inner and outer Natures further and
further upward along.
Or upward along the energy centers.
further along or upward along the energy centers
and this is where the coiled serpent I guess is is reached to
the two methods of approaching this with sensible
method our first the seating within one's self of
those experiences which are attracted to the entity through
the South Pole.
Which is the red ray?
Each experience will need to be observed.
experienced balanced accepted and
seated within the individual
As the entity grows in self-acceptance and awareness of
the of catalyst.
The location of the comfortable seating of these experiences will rise
to the new true color entity.
The Experience, whatever it may be
will be seated in Red Ray and considered as to its
survival content and so forth.
so the word
seated is very interesting the seating within
oneself of experiences.
It's almost like this is the
this is like understanding the self and processing
what they experience actually is.
If that makes sense.
Yeah, that just seems to be talking about when Nathan was speaking
about earlier too how that that draws the experience up.
Yeah, that's funny. So I didn't get that far in the quotes you provided there. But this
this was the one I was thinking of or yeah, it's like pulling energy to
you. But yeah, like I think you're right
with what you're saying there too. It just seems like
partially there but then also I think this ties into some of those
practices that raw gives for then I'd say at the
end of the day analyzing some of the experiences you've had
and realizing which energy centers those might be
related to to then go through and unblock some of those areas to
then be able to be seated at a higher energy
level and to proceed from there. Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, I feel like we should
probably revisit this quote a whole bunch because I
feel like this is kind of like this is the central this is the seeking process
described and and sequence.
and maybe to finish off reading this quote after they go on
to say
finally in terms of the Sacramento nature each experience.
Meanwhile the Creator lives Within.
And the North Pole the crown is already upon the
head in the entity is potentially a god.
Which is interesting they use the word Crown like in
the Dual sense. This is the crown shocker
and it's gonna be seen as a crown. The crown
is already on the head. Yeah cannot
be obstructed. You know, it's always there.
Yeah.
This energy is brought into being by the humble and trusting
acceptance of this energy through meditation and contemplation of
the self and of the creator.
Where these energies meet is where the serpent will have achieved its
height.
When this uncoil energy approaches Universal love
and radiant being the entity is in a state, whereby the Harvest ability
of the entity comes nigh, which means that the fourth density.
Consciousness is
basically at that Center the universal of Center.
and skipping backwards now to session 39
so they started out explaining that the red ray is under
maybe understood to be the basic strengthening rate.
And it shall never be condescended is less important or less productive
of spiritual Evolution for it is the
foundation Ray.
and maybe that's another study to what you know, what can we
do to strengthen each of our
chakras also
but this is I feel like this discussion today
is just like getting getting the basics of
what these what these are.
The next Foundation Ray is yellow. This is the this is
interesting. They skipped over orange here.
Because they're talking about the did they
skip over Orange.
Yeah, this is regard to the primary race.
Maybe they
maybe they skip back and forth between talking about the primary Rays
here.
But yeah, this is what they don't normally call a primary Energy
Center the red yellow and blue.
It's like a foundation is the yellow.
This is the great stepping stone Ray.
At this rate the mind body's potentiates to its
fullest balance.
And that was the one that I just read about how if
you have your basic survival, if you
accept that that's there and you have an acceptance
of yourself. That's the that's the one I was reading. That
is the power center.
So it makes sense that they would kind of say like red and orange
or the basics. But then once you master the basics, then you can implore those
into your life with the yellow. Yeah.
I think that Park's interesting to really talk about the mind-body potentiates
with full balance. So that's kind of what we started
talking about before was balancing the mind the body
and then getting to the spirit. So basically that's why this
one it's to me. It seemed like as a foundational array because
it then allows you to then Traverse up to the higher
energy centers to be able to contact the spirit from Green Ray
and Blu-ray and up from there, but
it seems
I think that's why some of these it's kind of interesting with what
they mean by primary on each one or why why he
considers each one to be primary of red yellow and blue.
But yeah take did it. It was in
the in the one Court where they were saying.
They were they were progressing through you said it was your favorite
quote Yeah was the third one the social aspect.
What was the third one again? Yeah first in
terms of survival, then in terms of personal identity then
in terms of social relations, right? And so
that is if you look at the the first two as
do I have enough to survive and
then the next one is do I accept myself then you
move into the third grade when you can be someone
that has enough to survive you accept yourself and then
if you're unbalanced you can you know,
like Carla said I'm not worthy or you could go
on balance the other way and say I'm so great. I am so survival
ready. I'm the greatest person. But if you if you
keep it even killed you Empower that
yellow Ray and then like that that almost seems
like it's the perfect little those three right? There are
the the root of
I'll say Humanity, but I really mean physical life.
Yeah, Rob first who has the Triad I
think is one of the most important at least in our third density
experience to to balance and open up.
So let's read the session 41 quote
about the primary energy centers. So we
understand a little bit why they why they draw different distinction between
two more distinction more emphasis on
yellow than on Orange.
So the question was why are the red yellow and blue energy
centers called primary energy centers?
I think from previous material. I understand this but is there
some tracing?
These primary colors back to intelligent Infinity. That is
more profound. They're wondering he's wondering and he says we
cannot see say what's may seem to be profound the red
yellow and blue rays are primary because they signify
activity of a primary nature red ray
is the foundation orange rate the movement towards yellow
array, which is the ray of self-awareness and interaction.
Green ray is the movement through various experiences of
energy exchanges having to do with compassion and all forgiving love
to the primary Blu-ray, which is
the first Ray of radiation of self regardless of any actions
from another.
The green ray entity is ineffectual in
the face of blockage from other selves.
The Blu-ray entity is a co-creator.
This may perhaps simply be a restatement of previous activity.
But if you consider the function of the logos as
representative of the infinite Creator and effectuating the
knowing of the Creator by the Creator.
The perhaps see the steps by which this may be accomplished.
Meaning the Blu-ray is essential. It's
essential to share yourself without being blocked from others.
for the Creator to know itself
and as interesting how they they
later in the material where they talk about how you can get to you. Can
you can move through the
densities and still have a blocked Heart Like You Can Be service
to self and move all the way up to six
but and I always forget this
you cannot move into six, correct, you can get
to fifth being service to self. But you cannot move
Beyond without being serviced to other selves. No, I
think they did say that there's an early negative sixth density and
it's just that progressing through
the sixth density requires.
That that you change that merging. Yeah, okay,
and that that would make a lot of sense in that the
the yellow is the culmination of all your Earthly
or your physical experiences and
how you interacted with the rest of the physical experience. You can
skip the green choose not to open your
heart move to the fifth.
and still be in that phase but then once you get
beyond that you start to
You know you for lack of a better word assimilate,
you know, you start to understand more appropriately that you're
not going to get any further being that selfish. Yeah,
I don't I can't imagine what it's like
on that level of six density.
Where apparently it is possible to maintain a
sense of Separation at the early six density, but
then at some point the the growth
just requires.
a much greater level of awareness of
love
It's hard. It's hard to imagine.
I heard
and I've mentioned it before I heard this thing and
and it's it's so
out there. I don't know whether to believe it or not. But the simple
fact of what they said inspired thought within
me. So like I know why entered my life, but I
don't know why this person was saying it but the person said
that they were they are a
member of the ruling Elite family and that they had
to talk to the people every so many years and put
themselves out there ask questions and basically
went on to say
that that you know, we it
hurts us to be this selfish,
but we there has to be a flip side of the
coin.
and that they they understand what they're doing
and they can't wait to get back to a phase because
they actually brought up the law of one of the questions and he
and the the person who is the supposed Elite said,
you know, we we are at the
point where we want to change back to love but we've
gone the selfish route so far that we have to keep
the balance and it hurts us to stay here, but
we know we must
In order to like be a mirror for you to look at like I
don't want to be that so, you know clearly I
got to go the other way.
Well, they also say that the negative path is the path of that which is
not and the path of you know, philosophies and
it's like it's like they're maintaining negative philosophies
that are sort of self.
Self maintaining I think and I think that
the only way that Elite can maintain what they're doing is by building
a structures that requires them to maintain.
The illusions of power and control over society and
so forth.
Yeah, I think yeah, this discussed is like the Orion group
philosophy and the material a lot of times too that we're very
familiar with how that works here. Yeah.
but and and again, you know if
To go back to Alan Watts quote if you had if everything
were dreamy and peachy keen all the time how much
growth would you have? You know, and then it just gets
progressively harder and harder, you know, even beyond
the point of when Rob was saying, you know,
it would be like playing poker and knowing what everybody's cards were
once you step beyond that point, you know, the the
veil is there.
And how easy your heart is it and then it
just seems like the experiences would get progressively harder, you know,
just just to have the experience and see how
far from knowing. I am one in
all with the Creator. Yeah, see how
far you can get. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely think it's a free will thing for
everyone to to learn delay their cards face up and have an easier
Life by giving over and over unconditional love
in that way.
Yeah.
And so see how let's continue on this now. So the
next Foundation Ray is yellow. This is
the stepping stone Ray at this Ray the mind-body's potentiates
to its fullest balance.
The strong red orange yellow Triad springboards
The Entity into the center of green. This is again a
basic Ray, but not a primary Ray.
This is the resource for Spiritual work.
When green Ray has been activated we find that third primary Ray.
Third primary rate being able to begin to
potentially begin to potentiation. That's the blue. This is
the first true spiritual rate and that all transfers are of an
integrated mind-body Spirit nature.
The Blu-ray seats the learning teachings of the spirit in each
density within the mind-body complex animating
the whole communicating to
others these this entirety of beingness.
yeah, it's like I was saying earlier that's like that work of the spirit what he
calls the the great work that can then begin when
you're finally in this integrated Mind Body Spirit nature that
originates here at the Blu-ray then
so it seems like that's really where the
quite a bit of the work with Spirit and the actual realizing of
the Creator truly begins, I guess
from point moving through the energy centers.
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like there's a sensation associated with this too. That's
hard to so hard to explain when with the
Blu-ray. Yeah. Yeah, when we're when
we're working from when we're communicating from the spiritual side and
not just communicating from our our mind
or Community communicating from our our hearts. Then
I think that there's a there's a feeling of that spiritual
Dimension coming into the
communication process
Yeah, Robert. It's a concept of
going
I was just gonna say that when it's blowing through you like you
don't even know what you're saying. It's just kind of flowing through right? Yeah. Yeah,
it brings up the concept of that radiating. Basically
the creation I think that's what that could
be seen as is basically through once
you are making that communication with the Creator. We lived
through the Creator. That's then just rating at radiating out of you.
Yep.
And then they go on and I
think we'll come back to the Blu-ray when we talk
about the blockages in the next quote too. The Indigo Ray
the precious is that Ray worked upon only by
the Adept as you would call it.
It is the gateway to intelligent Infinity bringing intelligent
energy through.
This is the energy center worked upon in those teachings considered
inner hidden and occult for this Ray
is that which is infinite and it's possibilities.
As you are aware those who heal teach and work
for the Creator in any way which may be seen to be both radiant and
balanced.
Are those activities which are indigo Ray?
As you are aware The Violet Ray is constant and does not figure into
a discussion to the functions array activation and that
it is the mark the register the identity the true
vibration of an entity.
So yeah, maybe we should dedicate a
lot more time on another session to the Indigo Ray because that's
discussed a lot. I think in other parts of material
to
But it's it's the most advanced. So it
seems like we can't even begin to understand what what these these
workings mean.
The infinite potential of understanding thinking of
things in terms of the universal Energies.
What was the original phrase they used?
Yeah in terms of universal Energies.
What about the universal energies? I think that was that was the Indigo race
what they said was seeing in terms of the universal.
Oh, yeah, third eye.
Yeah.
And you know, it is called the third eye because with
it we are able to see in a way which is possible which
is impossible through
ordinary Vision the third eye sees what is happening
on the inside rather than the outside. It is able to view the
subtle images patterns and dynamics of energy
movement. It is the instrument through which we
view our spiritual world. I mean
these guys when I reread this after
reading the law of one it was just like, you know,
I I when I read the law of once sometimes I have to read
a passage and just kind of sit in meditation to absorb.
All of the experiences I've had in this life that are coming together
to bring me information after reading a session
and then I have to reread the session and then I went
back and I reread this and I was like man I read this and and
went through the class, but then when you when you
pair it up with the law of one, it just opened so
many things I said the six chakra is a very subtle Center
which is only able to facilitate the movement
of energy once the energy has been purified and
refined by the heart.
It's simply will not allow act allow course
material into its immediate surroundings, which
again speaks to Ross saying you can enter six
as service the self but you're not going
to finish six this service the self because you know
it it will not accept of course material. The energy
has to be purified by the heart. You're not going to finish sixth
without without some
some love some heart in it.
I also wonder when they say Universal energies
if they're saying in essence,
there is no energy of this nature which
is like a specific to you
energy. It's an energy, which is universal.
So that would imply. Maybe this is where we talk about the the
archetypes because the archetypes are the universal.
structures
That apply to everyone so it's it's a universal
truth and working with those energies is
almost like you're now you're tapping into the infinite nature of reality
because because of the infinite connection
between all beings of
the of that of that principle.
It is like the breath it is shared.
All right moving on to session 15.
Now they're talking about the blockages. The question
was how does an individual go about bouncing himself? What is
the first step?
And Ross had the steps are only one that is an understanding of
the energy centers which make up the Mind Body Spirit complex. This
understanding may be briefly summarized as follows.
The first bouncing as of malcouther Earth
Energy vibratory energy complex called the Red
Ray complex.
And understanding and acceptance of this energy is fundamental.
I think we talked about this last time a little bit, but it's good to cover this again.
Yes, we talked about the red Ray and they don't talk about blockages here
with that the next energy complex, which
may be blocked is the emotional or personal complex also
known as the orangery complex. This blockage
will often demonstrate itself as personal x-centricities or distortions
with regard to self-conscious understanding or acceptance of
the self.
So
I wonder if
I wonder if this is a narrow view of the need
to accept the self too because we're talking about.
eccentricities and self-conscious
understandings
I thought a lot about what this actually means in my
my personal life. And I think that
maybe you know the way that we use the word I and
me and my kind of gives away where we're blocked
in the orange Ray.
All the identities that we're attached to.
So you can start related to the personality then as well
basically, so understanding your personality, I
guess and the potential.
Blockages that might be associated with that. Yeah. Yeah.
I wonder if it's also appropriate to
think of it as just like the lower personality, you know.
the personality that is
relating to itself instead of relating to other people.
Well, maybe I have habits and
yeah.
It definitely I think.
Is relating to the self as opposed
to other people and in that sense, you could call
it lower.
I don't know. I just have a problem with the word lower and it's probably my
life, you know and all the things that that brings up but
it's it is Holy you're relationship
with yourself and what you're talking about
where you say I me and all that kind of stuff. It does
seem like a dead giveaway because if you have too
much pride this these are the people that you talk to they're
always saying I and
if you don't have enough self-confidence, you
know, we're talking about the difference between hubris and
pride, you know, you can have pride but
not be hubris and
That's that's what it is. It's being balanced. It's
knowing who you are and and using that which
you are.
To help the world around you, you know, so you
could be the person that's always saying I me and you
have too much hubris, or you could be the person
that's never saying it and you don't have enough confidence in
yourself. Therefore you may have all the secrets
of the universe figured out in your head. But if you don't have
the confidence in yourself, you can't you can't bring them to
anybody to help share.
Yeah.
And there there is a perfected form of the orange Ray too that
they say is.
A flower shaped containing three petals. This was
another one. I thought it gets kind of beautiful to think that
of each of these energy centers is
it's just a developing Crystal and they
they compare them to snowflakes. They say each the energy centers
of the physical complex may be seen to have a distinctive crystalline structure
and the more developed entity. It should be
somewhat different just as in your world Note 2 snowflakes are like however each
is regular the red ray the Red Energy
Center as often in the shape of the spoked wheel the
orange Center and the shape flower shape
containing three petals.
So I'm not sure if those three pedals represent something heavy interesting.
I know that.
in yoga the
the pedal number is six.
So that's that's interesting that that's the one
place where it seems to diverge.
Well three and six have a lot in common, I guess very much
so very much. So and the
the first is
four number of petals is four.
So that could be a balanced wheel.
Maybe I'll finish reading this quote here. So interesting the yellow
rate Center is again and
around a shape many faceted as a star.
The green Energy Center sometimes called the
Lotus shape the number of points of crystal structure dependent
upon the strength of the center.
The blue Energy Center capable of having perhaps 100 facets and
capable of great flashing brilliance.
The Indigo Center a more quiet Center, which has
the basic triangular or three petal shape.
in many
Although some adapts who have balanced the lower energies May
create more faceted forms.
That's what go ahead
is it's funny because the I'm just
following along and seeing where the numbers really because I've never
actually sat and done like we're doing here where you follow along and it
goes the chakras are four pedals
to six pedals.
six pedals to 10 pedals, which is
the one they said is indicated by
or say 10 pedals to 12 petals and 12 was one they
were said was determined by how many you had in the middle Sten goes
to 16 pedals and then
The one you just read they said it it's simpler and
shape and has three pedals.
So the whole time the chakras are counting up and
then all of a sudden the six chakra goes back down to two.
So it's not not exactly the same but it does kind of they both
say it simplifies almost.
Yeah, this is maybe maybe not very practical or easier
for people to fight value in this but it's
it's just a fascinating.
Tidbit of information that they're there's a a geometry
to the energy centers.
Possibly based on how they're used.
And there could be something to them speaking
about this because you know, there's different
shaped crystals. There's different shaped objects and
different shapes imbue different energies
as well as different lights and view different
energies based on their wavelength. So, you know, maybe there's someone
who can you know, someone who just studies light
can find a core respondents with the
energy centers and be like, oh this vibration is this light
if if you have a blockage in this area and you apply
this light this vibration you can help it heal.
I kind of like to what you were talking about before Nick with how the different
energy centers. It's like it kind of reminds me of I think
Rod talks about later with wanders. They come in with specific abilities
or gifts as well. So with
the way these end up crystallizing slightly different in each
and may there their indicate the type of
gift or ability that each I guess into it individualized form
of Consciousness may have is what then
creates this different crystalline structure in each, but so it's
differences, but then all merging together
to the one at the end.
Yep.
Again, it's interesting how he says?
In two two point four, so I
mean like, you know, you're really going back to the basics. He says
with the pyramids again A Time passed
they were trying to create healers. He
said after you were initiated and you
were a Healer that the Crystal and the initiate
could help power the pyramid and
then he further goes on because Don
keeps asking about you know, how how does
this shape in the size help the initiate and Ross
response is um paraphrasing the
the size and the shape can help the
Healer and then Don asked. Well, you know, how does this size
and shape? How does this orientation of the pyramid
help the initiate and rock keeps
trying to get him back to you know, you're helping the Healer
now at this point and so it's almost as
if it was the Crystal and the initiate could
help heal and now we're in a time where
our son and our planet are in a Vib.
to Where We Are the Healer
and the and we can imbue the
crystal in shape. It's just you have to do the work
to be able to you know, use the Crystal
and shape and your healing abilities.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's always interesting parallels between the when
they talk about crystals. They're talking about both the
crystallized healer and the Crystal.
That's can be a physical Stone because of
the fact that the Consciousness is apparently what matters
in the Consciousness that's purified in the person is
the Consciousness that's purified in stone. It's like
what are the same or just amplifying each other?
Yeah.
and again when you were talking about when you
brought up the visualization concept
You know, you can visualize the crystalline form.
Yep.
So I could finish off this quote here.
The Violet Ray Energy Center is the
least variable and is sometimes described in your philosophy as
thousand pedaled as it is the sum of the Mind Body Spirit complex
Distortion totality. So that seemed to suggest
all the other lifetimes.
Are in that totality and are represented in some way by the other pedals.
And it is the only one that is spot on
where it says that the seventh Crown chakra
is number of petals 1,000 I see.
That's why they say describe in your philosophy. Yeah, exactly.
Okay, so we're on third blockage
now the third blockage the yellow Center
the third blockage resembles. Most closely that which
you've called ego is the yellow Ray or solar
plexus Center.
Blockages in the center will often manifest as distortions towards
power manipulation and other
Society social behaviors concerning those close
and those associated with the Mind Body Spirit complex.
So again your relationship to
the world around you. Yeah.
Society
very Central to people these days at the
balancing at least now and in our society now.
Yeah, this this phrase other social behaviors. I think
it's probably like most social behaviors.
It's like everything that that we're engaging in is usually
not from the heart if it's based in requirements, I
think the requirements of
our society.
They could be seen as the honors.
And the honor Duty concept responsibilities, but they
can also be a part of a system of control and hierarchy
and you know suggesting people have to do things
for money people have to make money.
And so we have we've kind of tricked ourselves into relating to
each other not at an open-hearted way, but just based off
of a sense of obligation which which might
suggest that there's some hidden
Distortion towards power manipulation often present.
Yeah, and that's the the control systems
that you you're speaking of. I mean
if you look at what the control systems are
trying to do, they're trying to severely polarize
people, you know, they're trying to take that that even Keel
and make it so that you have to fit yourself
into the far. I don't want to say left and
right because I don't want to get political but like just one of the two sides
but you have to be at the extreme and that's it.
You know, it seems like as we move towards this
solar event and we are moving towards that the
Earth according to Raw,
you know, and according to other things that Earth is about to move in the
fourth density. It seems like any of
these control structures are trying to prevent balanced.
Progression they're trying to you know, keep it
keep it extreme on one end or the other. Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's even relates to all kinds
of relationships potentially too like
with people engaging in.
Dating and marriage. It seems like there's there's
like later on they talk about the blockages being relating
to the sense of ownership and possession
a desire for possession a fear
of possession desire to be possessed fear of
being possessed. They say another quote are those
are the four ways of Sexual Energy blockage that relate to
the first three energy centers.
So yeah, the way we interact with each other still has
like this implicit.
undertone of power and
control that an ownership would imply
possession would apply there's
What one person has the other person somehow?
controlled in their in their relationship so
and it certainly like family relationships are
all kind of like potentials for the parent
or the one who is rebelling even
to feel like they're trying to exert controller
exert some some kind of
counter Force to the other person's energy
I think that the simple fact that you can State all
of that and everybody that well I can speak
for myself. But I think that a lot of people would agree with you just screams
that we are in the
third density or
you know, they're not directly correspondent,
but they are Loosely correspondent. We you know moving from the
third density to the fourth, you know, it's easier to
to ring in
this in this third density when the
the third chakra is the one that's activated and
then when you move to the fourth density, you know, you have
to move to the fourth chakra, so they're not the same
but they are closely related and I I
wanted to I was looking for this one
part because they were they were saying exactly what you're saying
and they were talking about
the this this chakra can be
easily manipulated especially early in your life.
But I couldn't find it.
Yeah, I make sense like by your
parents or something like that. If you're kind of grown up with this somewhat of
a manipulative parenting style, then you
almost kind of take that on yourself I
guess moving in. So then your relationships from there.
Well likely tend to have you know
manipulation behind them too, but some of those psychological issues that
you develop from from parenting or other sort
of relationships when you're when you're growing up.
Yeah, yeah, definitely all the traumas seem
to be of the orange Ray and the yellow Ray.
and that that whole power
paradigm
is if if you are constantly if
you constantly have a parent whether it be
your actual parents or teachers at school
or your boss at work that lends to
a society where no one has to be self-confident
and take on their own power because you can just
constantly be like, well, you know my I did it because my
parents told me to I did it because the teacher told me too I did it because my boss
told me to you, you know, it doesn't lend itself
to people.
taking their own power and then you
know
If you if you're not springboarding from the yellow
into the green, if you never decide to
make that jump then you know, it is gonna
be in an inhibition for
your growth.
Yeah.
And maybe I should find that quote where they say to completely unblock
yellow Ray.
I think there's
I could read some of this while you're looking okay.
says
the key word for this chakra is self-confidence when
we fully embody this kind of profound self-confidence we
cease to have doubts and therefore become one
pointed.
We are able to harness a tremendous amount of energy we
can get things done influence people and even
more even move mountains which again they talk about
moving mountains in the law of one. We know
that we can succeed at anything we set out to
do that. Nothing can distract us. We we
know who we are
and what we are here to do. However, it
is important to understand that this power which manifests
inside of us as our talents and abilities to
succeed and Achieve does not set us apart. I read that part
but they do talk about although it
may look different within each person. The essence of the
power is the same in everyone. We all have it therefore we
must not only access and channel
this power but we must respect it. And as
well as use it since the energy center
is a tremendously powerful and passionate. There
may be a tendency in some
to use the energy for self.
Vacation and to manipulate others. This is
why it is important to bring this energy up into the heart.
Yeah.
And so this was the one of my favorites quotes too about
the yellow Ray. They say each entity must an
order to completely unblock Hillary.
To open the heart basically to completely unblock Hillary.
We must love all which are in relationship to us.
With hope only of the other selves joy, peace and
comfort.
Hmm. So this this could also explain, you know,
Carla Rucker's over activation of
the green without without the balancing wisdom
aspects that if you're over
over activating your heart, she's clearly loving all which are
in relationship with hope only the other selves joy, peace
and comfort mmm.
It'd be interesting to see if she had any kind of controlling relationships
in her past to see
if she if that's why her yellow Ray wasn't fully balanced.
Yeah, well, I don't know if balance is the right word for it.
I guess it's bounce relative to the higher centers. Would
that make sense?
Yeah, like yeah because if you if you were unbalanced or
off kilter or however you want to put it if you're if you're yellow Ray
wasn't shining as brightly as it could everything above
it, you know has has a skew
on it, right?
Yeah.
One of the things I always thought about when reading this and in the
law of one was because they
said second density like close second density
beginning of third density end of second density creatures
could be you know your pets when I
read that passage man. I mean, I always loved my
pets but it took on this whole different thing where you like
you have all of this control and
when like our dog he's
sitting there and he has to go outside and it's 12 below and
I'm like man, I really don't want to go out there but he's like, please
do let me like am I are you
are you on balancedly exerting your power?
And then you know, does that Echo into
the the third density for the pet? I'm like, oh man. All right.
I'll put something warm on. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting.
I certainly am
Running into every kind of wall understanding the
nature of discipline now that my son is 15 months old. Oh that's
got to be crazy. I couldn't even imagine with the child of another
person. Yeah. Yeah.
This is something that I still I still struggle
to understand. But but I definitely feel like there's you
know the wisdom aspect.
Can kind of override what love means
to us, you know love can be become an
expression of boundary setting and I
think seeing seeing the boundaries as being the the
building blocks of a loving
interaction is probably where this
discipline is coming in.
Yes, like when my son is just going crazy at 9pm
and he's ridiculously tired. He's like falling asleep,
but he doesn't want to go down go down to sleep. It's like yes have
to I just have to let him be upset with the idea that it's bedtime
until until he finally gets into bed, and he's fat very
happy there.
Yeah, yeah, cuz he's tired. He just don't want he doesn't
want to miss anything. Yeah, this great experience of Life.
Yeah.
Is he a toddler yet? I would call him a toddler now.
Yeah, let's go say that sounds very top though. Like yeah.
I'm hoping it is terrible twos were just passed in about a
week.
Look at the comments any parents and they're gonna be
like, good luck, buddy.
Yeah.
We do have some attendees here. I don't know if they are parents.
Joined in the call. Nothing in the chat yet. You guys are pretty chat
at us, too.
my parents always gave me a
great awareness of
not only my effect on on the people around me
but but more specifically because I have two younger brothers.
It was as a great awareness of my effect on them and
it just like I said, I couldn't even imagine with a child
because from such a young age like
if they're screaming and they pick something up and they go to throw it
and you say no you're like, oh hold on a minute wait is that
they're free will to throw it or they're gonna break something. You know what I mean? Like that word
no seems so mmm. Is
this an appropriate time to use it and and that the
yellow Ray is gotta be screaming at you when you're
having those decisions, right? Yeah. Yeah. I definitely
seems like there's
There's some other.
Way to Direct Energy that that is not just a
block. It's like it's yeah be a redirection of energy.
Yeah.
Mike I think we've talked about it before but Iran doesn't
have one quote about that parenting aspect of it too with
at least saying it is okay. It
exerts some discipline at that point. I think it kind of
ties to what you were saying there was because of the wisdom aspect
that you have you can then share out of
love what could be
right or right or wrong
from from their perspective to help the child, but it's it
seems like it's a fine line though.
Yeah, the compassion of parent to child May well be tempered
by the understanding that the child entities shall learn the biases
of service to others or service to self from the parental
other self.
This is the reason that some discipline is appropriate and to teach
learning. This does not apply to the activation of any one
Energy Center.
For each entity is unique and each relationship with self and
Other Self W unique.
The guidelines given our only General for this reason.
Yet I mean in the end.
You don't the old saying you can lead a horse the
water, you know, but you can't make a drink I was I was
a little kid sitting next to the stove and my mom
was cooking and she told me not to touch the burner so many times and
I was like, well was it like to touch the burner and I still have
the scars on the top of my hand from what I touched it, you know what I
mean? Like, ah, yes. So I told you not to do that.
I think that Debbie a commented there
for you Mike. Yeah, Debbie says I never called the terrible twos.
I just said oh this is such a cute age. The terrible
didn't show up until the teenage years, lol.
I like that they do bring up the energy center concept at the at the
end of that quote though too saying that you can't really activate anything
activate. I mean, their energy centers is
something they still need to learn on their own. I guess at least the way I interpret that
but you can help and interact but
you can only go so far only. Nick was saying
lead a horse to water sort of concept. Right, right.
Yeah, the every individual has to learn themselves.
Yeah.
Yeah, and that's that's why I use the example of
a pet because you do have
so much control over the things in
their life, you know, the the child to
an extent as long as you're not, you know, an abusive
parent the child has the ability to kind of
like, yeah, you know, I'm gonna give it a shot. Whereas the the animal
and then it always pops into my head like, oh this dude's
moving from second the third or he may already be in the beginning a third
and I don't want to you know crush his spirit and all
this. It's a it's interesting. It's interesting
that the way you're you're thinking after reading this
material.
Yeah.
Certainly brings more compassion into your life.
So continuing on now with the discussion around blockages are
Ross said those with blockages in these first three energy
centers or next I will have continuing difficulties.
And ability to further their seeking of the law of one.
The center of heart or green rate is the center from which third density
beings May springboard. Shall we say
towards infinite intelligence?
Blockages in this area May manifest as difficulties and
expressing what you may call Universal love or compassion.
and I definitely know this feeling
When my heart is closed to someone and I finally recognize
it and I see how there was that
that difficulty and and more
fully activating myself through.
Through that unforgiveness or I don't know if unforgiveness is
even the right word. It's literally feels like a blockage.
When you've got your heart closed and you don't know why.
I think for goodness is the right word to use for when you open
it. But sometimes you may just be unknowingly having
the blockage. So unforgiveness implies that you
know that you're not forgiving them, but sometimes
I don't I don't believe that.
You realize it and then when you do you can
choose forgiveness?
Yeah. Yeah, I think that ties
back to what we're saying earlier than analyzing the situation you went
through throughout your day to then be able to unblock that but like
we're saying at the beginning there. It's like
your energy center. How much is Flowing up is changing minute by
minute. So certain interactions you might have you don't realize that you
are acting on Lovely or at that time possibly a
blockage, but then you go talk to another friend and your heart
opens back up or a spouse or something so it's can be
a minute by minute Case by case or a situation.
That the oh, man.
I I don't even know if I could put this in
the words.
what you just said spark the thought
that was like
time space space time how we're constantly
moving forward. So if you're if your
physical body and energy center is
moving forward. And again, I
always use the traffic thing because I come from the Northeast and
it's it's a big part of your life out there. But if you get cut off
in traffic and that that closes your your heart
chakra say 50% and then
you go through your continuing to go forward with 50% blockage
and then you meet that person that friend
or that whatever it is that that brings you back
to life and it opens up
your energy chakra to 60% but
you're still 40% blocked as you're moving
forward with this 60% blockage you then can
think back in time and affect your
energy center that was blocked back then and bring it
back up to 100% And it's that whole time space
space time like
almost like we live in a Nexus
of time space and space-time where we can
think backwards and affect forwards.
And so we live in a we live in a place where everything
happens at each individual time, but we
have the ability to jump through time.
Whereas Ross says they live in space-time where
everything happens simultaneously
Yeah, I'm serious, right? Yeah.
Time space. Yeah, they're reminded me of this quote in session
10.
The law of one has one of its Primal distortions Free Will
Distortion unless each entity is free to accept reject or
ignore. The Mind Body Spirit complex is about it
and to ignore the creation itself.
There are many among your social memory conflicts Distortion who
at this time space engage daily as you would
put it in the working upon the law of one and one of its Primal distortions.
That is the ways of Love. However, if the same entity
being biased from the depths of its Mind Body Spirit complex towards love
light.
We're then to accept responsibility for each moment of
the time space accumulation of present moments
available to it, which I think is what you're talking about the the history of
all those heart blockages. We're taking responsibility for
all these blockages and everything that is present
in our energy throughout the time
space continuum the time space accumulation.
Such an entity can Empower its progress in much the
same way as we describe the empowering of the call the soul
of your Social memory complex your social complex Distortion
to the Confederation, which was described as being exponential. It's
an exponential increase as we we understand
how all of our blockages are relating to
our our current situation and we can it be
accepting responsibility to break through all these things.
Yeah, and and
that that quote is funny because they talk about it as your
social memory complex. So it's like we have to
master it at an individual level so that we can come
together to coalesce at that comp social
memory complex level to be able to
then move forward.
Yeah, write that down. That's a beautiful way of putting it time space
accumulation a present moments. Yeah
present moments plural.
Yeah. Yeah, right. It's just one little s and
it changes it. It's like past lives
and everything too. So it's it's much more deeper than just this
Incarnation, I think as well, too.
Yeah, right. How much of it are you
willing to to dive into
and take responsibility for? Mm-hmm?
Yeah of present moments.
You know, that's that's like the one time they don't think singularly.
They were you know raw only
thinks of one and then they start talking about time. They talking
about the present moment as present moments. It's an
accumulation. Yeah, and it's
it's a single moment of an accumulation of moments too responsibility for
each moment of the time space accumulation of
present moments. Yes, one of the most confusing that took
me years to try and write my head around with that meant to I
probably glossing it over too fast right now too for
people, but that's
Yeah that I feel like that's a lot to work
with that could be a whole episode right there.
Yeah.
Just covering time space alone is a
good episode to cover what they mean by the
metaphysical dimensions.
which are
overlapped with our physical dimensions
Yeah, and I think that that's a it parallels
very closely the energy centers because
the energy centers have a physical.
Portion and a metaphysical portion right
the inner and outer Natures. Yeah. Yeah. The
time space is the inner nature.
Yeah, and the the
because this this book They're going through the chakras and as
they go through the chakras their they were
teaching us which of the awesome is which of
the poses correlate to
each chakra because the Hatha Hatha Yoga
that we learned it's it's like
an hour and a half flow where
you work your way from the first chakra up through
all the chakras you hit your Pinnacle and
then you come back down and the whole point of it is
for meditation. So you're you're the
point of the movements is to balance the chakras as
you go through the class and at the end of the class you're supposed
to sit in meditation, which I mean I've received
major downloads after after want to Shiva
das's classes but to get back on point it has
So I'm on the heart chakra right now and it says
indications of blockage could be selfishness judgment
and hatred.
Let me go to one that has but some of them actually have physical like
the like the throat chakra actually
has a physical manifestation where you
could see a student might be clenching their jaw.
you know and they and they talk about different things how to
unblock physically something
that might be more of an emotional blockage, you
know, really wonder when it comes to the heart if the
cardiovascular issues that are so common are Society are
not related to the blockages and hard to
yeah.
Absolutely. So I mean it's like talking about the whole anger creating
cancer kind of thing, but it's the same thing kind of relating then to
the energy center. So I hadn't drawn
that correlation before but I could totally see that being accurate.
Yeah.
One of the things that they told this with with
the heart chakra because it's some of
the things are like back bends prone bands.
It's a lot of it's a
lot of like this.
You know think of opening the heart and one of
the things Shiva does told us was look at Society. You drive
your car like this you sit at a desk like this
you all of society expands the back and contracts the
front body. So to open up the heart chakra would
be to do these backbends and would make sense in
a society that can constricts the
front that people would have heart ailments.
Yeah, and then
they would also have again, you know, it's physical
and and metaphysical they would have the
corresponding emotional problems. No
not being able to love is freely.
Yeah.
All right moving on they say the Blu-ray Center is
of energy streaming is the center
which for the first time is outgoing as well as in pouring those
blocked in this area may have difficulty and grasping the
spirit mind complexes of its own entity and
further difficulty and expressing such understandings of
self.
Entities blocked in this area may have difficulties in accepting communication from
other Mind Body Spirit complexes.
As well as communicating. Yeah, because the third chakra.
One of the things that he pointed out to us was if you watch the
news which obviously I would not suggest but if
you watch the news you see these commentators who
are very heavily restricted in what they
can say. They've got the earpiece in the producer is
telling if you listen to them a lot of them have that
kind of throat contraction, you
know, you can you can almost
hear their their it's been
shooting but you know, the blue Energy Center their blue
Energy Center is not thriving and you can hear in the
physical manifestation of their voice.
Yeah.
Nothing's interesting here that they differentiate the outgoing versus
importing energies here too. So it's not just the
way I guess in simple terms the way you are
communicating with others, but it's also accepting that communication that's
coming back to you and integrating that way too. Whereas
I would imagine then so the inner energy
centers prior to this then it seems are all of the importing
nature that you're working with and this
is the one now where you're opening up to Spirit. So
that's what's been creating this dual sort
of aspect to it.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I guess the spirit is the shuttle to intelligent
Infinity, right? Hmm.
I talked about opening up to intelligent energy as well. So that
seems to be first part of becoming the
logos that an opening up to the intelligent energy, which then can create
the Gateway from there too intelligent Infinity which lines
up with kind of the discussion from the previous
one there going stepping down from intelligent Infinity to intelligent
energy and basically creation from that point.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think maybe we should probably do another episode also at
some point. Just trying to cover the
the spirit nature of the spirit more
and that that can relate to the
the clues that come from the archetypes the
The Matrix of spirit
the significator spirit the great way of spirit
because it is very hard to wrap your mind around what this what this
represents.
Nothing to be good. And it definitely it is
harder to wrap your mind around but you you
can get there through the physical especially with
with modalities such as yoga and
meditation, you know to quiet your mind to
quiet yourself and allow that or to you
know, again, like if your heart is is constantly shrinking
your you know, your physical body
is shrinking around it to open it up and to sit in
that open in open place to understand
the
the energy centers and in
a physical end and a metaphysical way.
You know now you have two ways of accessing balancing.
Yeah, maybe I do want to read the transformation
of the spirit discussion.
And see if this relates I think this might relate to this these
last three the upper chakras to so
the question
was about the 20th archetype that what you call the sarcophagus in
your system may be seen to be the material world if you will.
This material world is transformed by the spirit.
And to that which is infinite and eternal.
so that this to me is also suggests that this in going outpouring nature
is is this process of transmuting from
the material into the infinite and
eternal
the Infinity of the spirit is an even greater realization
than the Infinity of Consciousness for Consciousness, which
has been disciplined by Will and faith.
Is that Consciousness which may contact intelligent Infinity
directly?
There are many things which Fall Away in the
many many steps of adept Hood. We have Ross still walk these steps
and praise the one infinite Creator at each transformation.
I think the word integration might be the right word also
for this.
In place of transformation. Yeah, this is an integration process.
Yeah.
yeah, because you you
the one if any Creator splits has the experiences and
then starts to integrate all the experiences back into the
one infinite creator.
So this second line in there that Infinity of
yeah of the spirit is even greater realization than
infinity of Consciousness. So it's like making contact with
your with your spirit is much more opening than
you've been trying to do. Any work in Consciousness is way I
read that yeah.
And that seems to relate to this the
spirit part is.
Is the disciplining by Will and faith that
Consciousness is the Mind part. I think and the disciplining by Will
and faith is the spirit part.
So I think when we start opening up the Blu-ray, we're now becoming
more discipline by wheel and faith.
And the concept of those two together faith is congruent with
intelligent Infinity. So it's basically working your
way to there and I think the idea of will is also
something that's kind of not talked about as much that Rob brings
up quite a bit as quite a strong power that has
I know there's a number of quotes where they talk about. You can
ascribe too much importance to this because because
in this case here, it's what
can ultimately lead to your contact with intelligent Infinity, right?
And the at the
beginning the very beginning he says when he was
talking about moving mountains, he said if with enough Faith
you can move mountains and I don't
know Mike maybe you could look it up. I thought I had written down here, but he
actually correct some and he says maybe instead of
faith and he tells him the
say something else or he doesn't sound to say
something else, but he he draws a greater understanding of it with
the with the whole moving mountains quote.
Yeah, I know because I just
went over. Yeah that session three. I'm reminded of the statement
Don said if you had enough Faith to move them
out in the mountain would move.
I assume this is approximately what you were saying.
I assume if you're fully aware of the law one that you were able to do. These things is correct.
And Russ says the vibratory Distortion of sound faith is
perhaps one of the stumbling blocks between those of what we
may call the infinite path and those of the finite proving understanding.
So there's a stumbling around this concept.
What he said Ross says you're precisely
correct and your understanding of the congruency of faith and intelligent Infinity.
However, one is a spiritual term the other more the
other term more acceptable perhaps to the conceptual framework distortions
of those who seek with measure and pen.
So the physical world as opposed to the spiritual World, which is exactly you
know, it almost seems like these two session these
two quotes go absolutely hand in hand the less when we were talking about this
one. Yeah.
All right, we we can move on here. These are so there's so
much to
speculate on
with what some of this could mean to but we can
continuously come back to these I think.
So the next Center is the pineal or
Indigo race Center?
Which you talked about a couple times earlier today those blocked in
the center may experience a lessening of the influx of intelligent
energy.
Due to the manifestations which appear as unworthiness.
That this is that of what you spoke.
I guess there was a question.
about balancing
so
so the blockage appears as unworthiness.
This is that of which you spoke as you can see this is but one
of many distortions due to the several points of energy influx into
the Mind by Spirit complex.
They n**** Ray balancing is quite Central to the type of work which revolves
about the spirit complex.
Which has its influx then into the transformation or
transmutation of third density to Fourth density it being
the energy center receiving the least distorted outpourings
of love like from intelligent until intelligent energy having also
the potential for the key to the Gateway of
intelligent Infinity.
So the potential of the key is found in the sense
of worthiness, which may relate to
the sense of faith.
Which what faith is also they say is the Catalyst of
the spirit. So the Catalyst seems to be
what draws us forth to
the
the key to intelligent Infinity
and it it is very of the
physical world up into this point and then you start having to make
that transformation.
Yeah.
Yeah, intelligent energy would suggest or the
way that they use it in the sentence would suggest that intelligent energy
is worldly and intelligent Infinity
is spiritual.
Yeah, if I read that, right? Yeah intelligent energy
I guess is like the the Raw.
Manifestation of infinite Creator, I guess into manifestation.
Which also means everything I think everything intelligent energy
that's manifest.
Yeah, yeah, everything manifests beautiful way
to put it.
The remaining Energy Center. Would you talked about a little bit earlier? They say
is simply the total expression of the entities vibratory complex of
mind-body and spirit it is as it will be quote
balanced or imbalanced has no meaning
at this energy level.
For it it gives it takes in its
own imbalance its own balance. So
It has an automatic balance, I guess.
Whatever the Distortion may be it cannot be manipulated.
As can the others and therefore has no particular importance in viewing
the balancing of an entity.
All right, so there were and we
got maybe 15 minutes left now.
I thought maybe.
We could dive into a couple more.
That seem to be interesting.
Segways into many other subjects that
Are worthy of future future sessions?
So in 61 in session 61.
They were talking about frontal lobes also.
with
the brain relating to this opening
and Don asked could you tell us the purpose of the frontal lobes
of the brain and the conditions necessary for their activation?
And Ross said the frontal lobes of the brain will shall we
say have much more use in fourth density?
The primary mental emotive condition of this large
area of the so-called brain is Joy or love
in its creative sense.
Thus the energies which we have discussed in relationship
to the pyramids all of the healing the learning the building the
energizing are to be found in this area of the
brain. This is the area tapped by the Adept. This
is the area which working through the trunk and root of
Mind makes contact with intelligent energy and through this
Gateway intelligent Infinity.
So I thought that was interesting side note that they're saying that the brain itself
is.
Is often not being used
until we start opening up that energy center.
Yeah, and then it's tying it to a specific location in
the brain. I guess I kind of forgot about this quote too that
that indicating that that's where you can actually make that
contact with intelligent energy where normally you'd think
of it as their energy center making that connection not necessarily
something in the physical that you can see like that
as a within your frontal lobe there.
Yeah.
And this is relating to Healing learning building
and energizing.
such as those
what they were talking about relating to the Indigo
Ray and one of the previous quotes we were looking at is what
you're using the Indigo Ray when you are doing any work for
the Creator basically which involve the healing learning and so
it seems to tie together with that when I earlier quotes that we were indicating but
now it's giving you a location in the brain where that's coming from.
Yep.
And it almost seems to be Ross saying this is
how we because it at the very beginning in two
and three he's talking about building the pyramids and connecting
with the the infinite rockness
and turning the infinite rockness into
the finite Rock to basically thought
build the Pyramid and there. He's
basically saying yeah, we thought built the Pyramid with
the frontal load
learning building and then energizing which is
huge in all of the talk that they
talk about with the pyramids how you know, the energies are
are manipulated and how the the initiate
would go in and it would
To me the way I read it was basically like if the person had
the will to go into the pyramid and learn how to be a teacher a
teach learner then they had the will
and a desire to go into this place
where it would if it
was it was a balancing effect. If you went in with
any kind of you know, Energy Center and balance
and you went into this area. It was almost like a tuning
fork to your energy centers and then you could move forward as
a teach learner from there.
I maybe this is another good one to touch on here. There's some
reference to the pyramid even in this where you're just asking about.
Is there any advantage in attempting to develop the characteristics of
being able to bend metal Etc?
Are there are there characteristics that are assign post
of the development of an entity or these anomalies something
else?
For for an instance as an entity
develops through Indigo with a signpost of his development
be this ability to bend metal.
And Ross said let us specify the three spirals of light energy, which
the pyramid exemplifies.
firstly the fundamental spiral which is used for
study and for healing this refers to like the
lower portion of the
of the
Great Pyramid like the Queen's chamber, I think.
Was the healing chamber I think that's what they said.
Second the spiral to the Apex which is used for
building. Maybe it's the king's chamber is the healing one.
I maybe should pull up we'll
do pyramids another day, too.
But they but they were referred to multiple times that there
were these different spirals of energy that the Great Pyramid shape
is is creating that are kind of like funneling up
the energies The Prana of the earth and creating
useful modes of
of energy expression. And the first one is useful for
study and healing the second one is useful for building and thirdly
the spiral spreading from the Apex which is at
the top is useful for energizing.
And contact with indigo-ray need not necessarily show itself in
any certain gift or guidepost as you have said.
There are some whose Indigo energy is that
of the pure being and never is manifested?
It all are aware of such an entity's progress.
Others May teach her share in many ways
Contact with intelligent energy.
others continue in unmasked unmanifested form seeking intelligent
Infinity
So I guess they're saying the way
that the pyramid has the different.
usefulness is of this energy different ways
of using the energy a person can use this energy in
different ways to and there are some
some who
Whose energy is that of pure being and never
is manifested?
Others May teach her share
Many ways their contact with intelligent energy.
others continue on manifested manifested
form seeking intelligent Infinity
So the intelligent energy is the is the bringing in a manifestation and
seeking intelligent Infinity is something that's the internal
work.
That can be unmanifested.
And thus the manifestation is a lesser signpost that
that which is sensed or intuited about a Mind Body
Spirit complex.
A lesser signpost than that which is sensed or intuited about
a Mind Body Spirit complex.
This Violet Ray beingness is far more indicative of true self.
So they're saying there there is no signposts. Other
than that, which you're guessing through your
Intuition or sensing about a person.
Yet almost sounds like the spoon Benders still have a
little bit of the ego to get over.
Probably in some cases definitely. Yeah. Yeah, like
it like they're showing you how great they are.
Yeah that by doing something in the physical doesn't necessarily mean you
are more advanced from that point. So I
guess you can probably apply to a lot of the other psychic modalities
there.
Yeah, that's that's why anybody that I
that I listen to a litmus test
is always, you know.
Are they are they trying to help you understand or
they trying to make you go to
them for understanding, you know, the people
that are saying, you know, don't don't listen to me. Listen to
the what I'm saying and go find it out for yourself.
And the final quote I would like to touch on today.
I think it gives us.
the end this was saying that there is a
the principle behind any ritual of
the White magical nature is to so configure the stimuli
which reached down into the trunk of mind.
That this Arrangement causes the generation of discipline or
purified emotion or love?
Which then maybe both protection and the key to the Gateway to
intelligent Infinity.
I feel like they've described this key with different terminology. I
probably should put that side by side, too.
But I want to read this whole this whole passage. Now with
the question. The question was could you
explain the basic principles behind the ritual?
Which we perform to initiate the contact with
raw and what I would call the basic White magical rituals principles
of protection and other principles.
And Ross said do to your Avenue of question. We perceive the appropriateness of
inclusion of the cause of this instruments transitory
vital energy Distortion. So Carla Rucker had
issues with her energy sent.
temporary lapses of energy
or
maybe they mean in the increase in vital energy
that she had the cause is a bias towards
the yearning for expression of Devotion to the one infinite Creator and group
worship. So maybe I'll go back to the session 64
to see what they said.
Yeah.
To Dimitri transitory means comes and goes so they're talking
about how she has it sometimes and then feels depleted other
times in my mind. Anyway, yeah, they say that her and
your energy is as previously stated with the exception of a transitory
Distortion lessening the free flow of vital energy.
So so they say that.
so her bias car
records bias towards
the yearning for expression of devotion of the one infinite crater and
group worship was a part of her fluctuation in her
energy.
This entity was yearning for this protection both consciously
and then it responds to the accoutrements of this expression
the ritual
the colors and their meanings is given by the Distortion system
of what you call the church.
A song of praise and the combined prayers of Thanksgiving and
most of all that which may be seen to be most centrally magical
the intake of that food, which is not of this
Dimension but has been transmitted into metaphysical nourishment and
what this Distortion of expression calls the Holy Communion.
So it's interesting that this White magical discussion is just talking about
her church setting.
And then a decade also be highly tied to what
we were speaking about earlier when the you
know, certain energy centers aren't open. Then you
get into this martyrdom type mentality the
big connection being that
if you're suppressed, then you don't have self-confidence you
seek the group and the acceptance of
the group to build your own self-confidence because you don't innately
have it.
So that could be you know, the the church
setting for her, you know, everybody's all
together doing the same thing with the with the same beliefs and
the same actions.
Right. Yeah, there's definitely well.
Maybe I'll finish reading
this and we'll see how this all fits together.
the subconscious reason
it being the stronger for this yearning.
So yeah, so the subconscious.
Yearning was the stronger aspect of
her yearning was the awareness that such expression
such the experiences at
church when appreciated by an entity as the transmutation
into the presence of one Creator. It's a great
protection of the entity as it moves in the path of service to
others. So she sees this these elements
of the church experiences a great protection.
The principle behind any ritual of the White magical nature
is to so configure the stimuli which reached down to the
trunk of mind that this Arrangement causes the generation of
discipline and purified emotion or love.
Which then may be both protection and the key to the Gateway to
intelligent Infinity.
So they're saying there's a lot of
potential value when we're properly using these symbols. Yeah.
that are
sort of opening up our our subconscious
aspects.
generating the
the discipline
and purified emotion or love
so that this may relate to the the transformation
of the yeah the disciplining by Will and
faith.
Is that Consciousness which may contact intelligent
Infinity directly?
And the discipline with purified emotion or
love?
May be protection and key to the Gateway to intelligent infinity and
that to me speaks of if you
have a lack of self-confidence, which
it sounded like
Carla may have had you know on some level because she felt
inferior to this thing. She clearly had, you
know, if she was able to be the instrument to contact
Raw.
discipline and purified emotion or love
Gives you protection. So if she went into it
lacking love for herself, she had
to protection of the congregation whether it's church or
the mosque or or just a group
where you get together and you chat. If you're lacking slightly
in one area, you can you can boost
that area through the group which at
whatever the group may be. Absolutely. Yeah. Do
you think that's only applies to the group that I think like they're
getting to the point of the ritual so could it be your own personal rituals
that you do could also provide you with that Comfort or discipline
100% Yeah. Yeah and really
into the same.
That's a book I have how to
how to make ESP work for you. I believe it's called by
Harold Sherman and he talks about the possibility
that Faith started as
you were a farmer and
you had a good crop, but you
jumped over the edge of your crop line before you went on
to the crop. And even though you have all
the knowledge how to grow this crop you had this really good crop
this one year that you jumped over the edge line. And then
from then on you always jumped over the edge line. It became
a ritual that you did to enhance yourself confidence in
your skills. You already have
yeah, you know lucky hats for
baseball players or rally caps, you know, it manifests in
this world in so many different ways, but it really is
all just you using something physical to
to
Boost your own abilities
or or transmute a transform
the material world into that which is infinite and
eternal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah because
you're you're self-confidence and what
you're doing is eternal and you
know, if you're gonna win a World Series because people
flip their cap offside down and put their rally cap on.
The World Series is gonna Echo into eternity,
you know, but the fact that they flip their cap upside
down was just that physical boost and even you know,
if the whole team did it now you're in congregation with everybody
doing a ritual trying to
make your way into infinity and I realized it
is a very stupid and basic example,
but I mean, you know, it's tangible to everybody.
Yeah.
And I think this is also a beautiful way to
end also that they talk about the final
way that we're viewing things is in terms of the sacramental nature of
each experience. Yeah word sacramental is directly, you
know, the sacraments are what they call the Holy Communion.
So that's what they're what that that core concept
is is basically old something that
we can experience in every experience. It's we
see every experience in terms of that that sacramental aspect.
And I do like how the quote
somewhere in there where
he says do can Sports help
and Ross says team-based competitions
may help.
And again speaking to the you know, the sacramental
nature of people getting together and and just
just congregating together with one one
purpose in mind and just being one minded at
that moment. The whole team is one minded.
You are all mind melding
for one purpose now if we could get the whole planet to mind
meld for the greater, you know progress of
the planet we'd be going somewhere.
Yeah, yeah, and
the definition of Sacrament can be a thing of mysterious
and sacred significant.
sacred significance
So that's kind of like seeing the Divinity and everything. Yeah.
I mean if you've ever been in a stadium where everybody's cheering in
unison and the the hairs on the back of
your neck rise, I mean, there's something
Sure about that moment, you know
it however you're manifesting it there. There
is a connection and it's between you and
everyone there. You are connecting at your core.
And then you have that physical response.
Yeah that ties in kind of to go on your analogy. The
only other key points that Rod talks about is that one pointed Focus. So
we don't have a team is on this one pointed focus of completing
this task or you know to win the game there. It's even
more strengthening. Yeah that
act of
Of playing the game, I guess in that case.
I think I think the point we're trying to make here is it's a shame.
We've turned Sports into more of a Sacrament then self-progression. Yeah.
Well, not self-progression a communal progression starting
with the self.
Yeah.
yeah, a lot of people have
a lot of spiritual lessons that they learned through
through the Journey of trying to become a elite athlete
and defeat and process loss and
victory. And so yeah, maybe probably pull
up that quickly too. There's we're talking about it so much the
Team was it?
Um benefit of sports. Yeah of competition.
I think he says,
Yeah, okay.
Well, this is the one that I'm thinking of here. They had
said that.
Devices and distractions such as less competitive games maybe seen
to have the Distortion of keeping the Mind Body Spirit unactivated. So
there's a missiles on less competitive games having less value
than competitive games. Yeah.
I don't think that's those are
all those and I I hope I'm not offending anybody but those
are all those things that like the stupid little throw in
the bird across the screen games, you know, where you're just
sitting there staring at your screen. You're not progressing at all.
Yeah, but speaking from a from my perspective as
a hockey player. I know I'm not in any way shape or
form anywhere close to Elite but playing in men's
beer league hockey. I've grown tremendously as
a person somebody cuts me off and then
and and like James me into the boards and
I take offense to it and then the guy I
meet him at the face off the next face off. He's like, you know, my bad
do that tripped a little bit and then you have to have this mental Journey where
you're like, why did I just react that
way, you know, I need to I need to be a more loving person than not
you know, this this on edge person.
Yeah, like an accelerated form of working through your energy blockages
basically in a
competitive format like that. Yeah, and I mean
just something as simple as the handshake after
a game I I could see
literally every type of person in that
handshake, you know, the guy who you accidentally tripped
while you guys were both skating and then
he shakes your hand at the end and you're like, okay my bad, dude, you know and then
the dude who will not he won't even get into the line to
shake anybody's hand because he's like, all right, dude, look we
were having a fun game here, you know, we're not
playing for millions of dollars. We're just trying to have a good time.
All right. Thank you guys. It's been a great conversation and really appreciate
your joining.
And studying up so much.
Absolutely. Thanks for putting it together Mike. Yeah. Thanks recording
it a lot of fun, right? Take
care.