Hi everyone, and welcome to another mystery school.
I'm your host Jacob Cox,
and tonight's topic is artificial intelligence.
Um, this is a topic
that is pretty hot right now in a lot of different places.
Something I'm incredibly honored to talk about
with my good friend Morgan Browning here that I've known
for probably a few years now.
Yeah, things go far fast. Feels like a lifetime.
But umm, glad he's with us tonight.
I'll let him introduce himself a little bit more now.
Hi everybody, and welcome to an amazing subject
with a lot of different directions.
I look forward to diving down a couple of
fun rabbit holes with y'all.
Uh, again, my name is Morgan.
I am full disclosure, not an AI practitioner. Hmm.
I'm not employed in the industry.
Um, but I do have fun researching
and putting a technical background
to use in uncovering some of the deeper layers of some
of these kinds of subjects.
So, uh, this was a fun one.
Uh, I appreciate the opportunity to come speak with you
and all of you, uh, this evening to really well,
to unpack some of the, uh, some
of the influences on the subject
so that we kind of understand.
Is AI an ally or is it a threat, or is it possibly both?
Right. I, I definitely gonna say both. That's me.
I'm a Gemini, so I can always see both sides
of the, of the coin.
Um, I just wanted to let you guys know, I've known Morgan
for a co a couple years
and gone really deep
with him down the rabbit hole into our past ancient past
and civilizations, the future and the now,
and to, um, what he said earlier, you know,
we are in an incredible time right now.
The dark is really dark. The light is really lit,
and it's, you know, both sides are, are there
to equally dive into Mm-Hmm.
And I feel like both are necessary. Mm-Hmm.
Really, honestly, like both are necessary.
Not one or the other.
I'm like, you know, I love the light worker term
and everything like that, but I would not be where I'm at
had I not had my own darkness.
Not, not that I have my own darkness, that I'm able to,
you know, experience things for growth.
I mean, a seed can't grow without being buried
first into the darkness.
So, uh, I think that's super important for us all
to realize, like, it's all necessary.
It's all good. If it was daytime all day, we'd all die
and plants would all die, and we would,
and that balance of night
and day is really helps us survive and to thrive, really.
So, um, yeah, so I asked Morgan to come on, come tonight
and really, honestly, whatever he wanted to talk about,
and the subject came up
and it's just something I really haven't had a huge
discussion with anybody else but you.
So it just made total sense to make AI our talker tonight,
and we've already talked about it.
This will definitely probably be something that has to
evolve and to grow out into probably multiple conversations
on down the road, which I hope perhaps, perhaps will join me
for, um, and new things as well,
if you, if you feel up to that.
Yeah. And I look forward to reading any commentary tonight
or, uh, in future viewings.
Uh, this has the potential of really becoming a, um,
a much broader thread than I think one hour
can, can warrant here.
But, um, to, to roll right into it.
Um, we have really five areas to cover.
I suspect we'll get through, um, a sampling
of all five of these topics,
but if we can deep dive into some of them
and then, you know, hold some off for the conversation after
or, um, or maybe plan a future conversation.
So, again, I look forward to reading the comments to see
what kind of interest there is on this subjects.
And again, thank you, Jacob. Uh, this is an honor.
Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for being here. Let's get to it.
I feel like the first question, Morgan, post me, like,
what is it, what is ai?
And I'm gonna let you softball this first one.
What is it, what's ai? We we're gonna
dive into how does it work?
What is the history to the presence in the,
you know, encompassing?
What is this a artificial intelligence?
And I'll just start with,
and forgive me, this, uh, this is an opinion.
I believe artificial intelligence
as a phrase is a euphemism.
Hmm. I believe that it is really, uh, a descriptor
of any system that it, that attempts to mimic
the human mind or body.
Um, and I, I use those distinctly.
Um, artificial intelligence has since the fifties
really been, um, uh, a tool to
test and, and develop the, um,
digital technology such that it can emulate
or even supersede, uh, the capacities of the human mind.
Hmm. And it's, uh, been that way since the fifties, uh,
when, um, the first developers ran a mouse
through a maze, a mechanical mouse, through a maze.
Oh, wow. Mechanical one. I didn't even know that.
With, um, with the intent of that mouse
learning its way through, through iterations.
Right. Wow. Which is essentially, uh, a distilled version of
what artificial intelligence does, which again,
mimics the executive function of the brain.
Mm-Hmm. So, artificial intelligence is a euphemism.
It's, it's really an end state.
And, uh, we'll, we'll get into a little bit later.
Um, the, the underlying layer of
artificial general intelligence whereby a,
an algorithm can vastly
outpace the human mind in cognition
and complexity in solving, uh, solving problems.
Mm-Hmm. But, uh, it is showing up everywhere.
Uh, we had a little bit of a conversation, uh,
a moment ago about, it shows up in the phone in the form
of different facial recognition, uh,
character characterizations.
Uh, it shows up in, uh,
it's now showing up in home appliances.
It's sh it's in the cars, it's, it's everywhere.
We don't really need to go down that just yet.
But, um, it's essentially measured
by the Turing test, which, um, professor Turing was,
uh, involved early on in defining the mechanics of
measuring, uh, the success of, uh,
an algorithm in improving itself through data regression
through, well, we'll,
we'll get into some of the architecture.
Um, but it's the
defining, a defining characteristic is that technology is,
or digital technology is scalable, infinitely so Mm-Hmm.
So that we can see without a broad physical footprint,
an algorithm can become more and more capable, complex
and faster, um, simply in the cloud.
Right. Right. So that makes it an, an, uh,
along with any other, um, uh, digital technology,
a highly effective
and efficient way to, uh, to create change
or to create influence over, over a, uh,
a population or an individual.
Yeah. 'cause they're, they're collecting
data and they're, they're learning.
It's essentially learning. Right.
Um, I, you know, that was technical.
My, um, just easy peasy definition
to me is artificial intelligence versus
what natural intelligence that naturally things evolve.
But even at some point, I mean, if,
if artificial intelligence is so, uh, you know, just
so being created so much, if, if it's just becoming kind
of like a norm, then, you know, it gets to be a point
where like, it's being created by a natural process too.
Maybe something that just naturally happens on different
planets and civilizations.
This is something that, you know, not just something
that we have come to terms with,
but every civilization probably, uh,
out there in the galaxy has to come to terms with Yeah.
Artificial intelligence at some point.
Like, somebody's going to create something that doesn't,
that talks man, you know, like, you're gonna have that,
that learns and it grows and it evolves.
And, um, you know, it's interesting
because I, I, I know about different kinds
of artificial intelligence and,
and one of those is the crystal skull
that I wanna talk about later.
Mm-Hmm. But it's very similar
to what's going on in much in a different way.
But, um, I, yeah.
And artificial intelligence is things that we create versus
what naturally would evolve.
Right, right. But it seems like they
might actually naturally won't.
So, yeah. Um, so it's,
and it's, you raise a very good point.
It's good. Think of artificial intelligence as a compliment
to biological intelligence or natural intelligence.
Yeah. Biological, right.
So if we can, uh,
if we can compartmentalize it in such a way where, um, it's,
it's not an either or, or it's not a takeover,
however, um, it is a useful tool that is gaining strength
and, and, um, the extent
to which it becomes a, a major influence, uh,
over us as individuals or as a group, um, or a society.
Uh, we'll get into this a little bit later,
but my theory is that it is destined to become,
um, a, a, it, it always has been a tool
for humanity.
Mm-Hmm. It was designed, developed, implemented
through humanity.
Mm-Hmm. Uh, the objectives, optimization criteria,
data sets, they're all defined by a human.
Mm-Hmm. Right. Yeah.
Now, the, some might argue that is changing.
Now, AI can write ai, AI can define, uh,
what data sets and parameters.
Um, but that it's that original generative ai, um,
that is still beholden to the, uh,
to the whims of its creator.
Creator. Yeah. That, that's definitely pretty,
pretty cool too, right.
That we have this system that we've created that's learning.
And, um, man,
it just, it is mind blowing, really.
Like when you think about it, like, what, um, let's let,
let's get into just how it works
and let's, uh, try to chunk this down so
that we can come back to some
of these chunks a little bit later.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That, yeah, that sounds good, man. Yeah.
So we talked about data. Uh, AI is fed, it eats data.
Mm-Hmm. Right. It, with that data, it, uh,
that it harvest constantly from whatever databases
or sensors, uh, it has available to it, uh, it will organize
and manage these according to classical data sciences.
Mm-Hmm. So there's a lot of, um, a lot of work done with
that data that we don't need to get into.
But with data sciences, we can use data
to discover patterns
and correl relationships of vari of variables.
Mm-Hmm. And what the data sciences
or, um, machine learning
gets into is turning it into information.
And that information is used by, uh,
an algorithm in the form of an expert system.
Right. Which, in a, in a highly simplified, uh, example,
you can look at as a, a system of equations.
In a system of equations.
You're trying to understand through, uh, through a dataset,
um, how to influence an outcome.
Mm-Hmm. Right. And
what AI is doing is constantly regressing that data,
constantly understanding it, understanding, uh, to feed the,
uh, an algorithm that can then spit out an answer that is,
um, that is good, right.
Or that is optimized. Right.
The, um, the, the, the output of
that expert system can take various forms.
I think we're most familiar
with the different visualizations Mm-Hmm.
That we see pop up online.
The chat, GPT, there's the chat GPT
with large language models that, uh, allow, uh,
the algorithm to, um, produce a,
uh, either a long
or short form output in, that's legible to us, right?
Mm-Hmm. And then you can imagine all the different
languages, human languages, um,
that an AI might need to interpret that into.
Right? Yeah.
That, that is interesting in all the things
that we're talking about, that it, the language that the,
the chat GBT, that there's so many, um,
there's so many things that they can do.
And, and to some extent, I'm, I wonder, you know,
like if you can create this incredible picture without
having to paint, do we lose our creativity?
Not, I, I mean, I can't really paint much anyway,
but I know that if I put something in check GBT,
I can get something far beyond better,
what I could do personally.
But there are people who can paint really well,
and does that put someone out of business so they can,
you can come up with this a great artwork in 10 seconds,
or someone has to take 10 hours to create something that's,
so that's one of our first someone to play devil's advocate,
where those things are great, and as tools, they're great.
But do we lose our creativity because of those things?
Are we, uh, you know, somebody's gonna write a novel Mm-Hmm.
With, with a, with the chat CPT instead
of using their own imagination to write it
and do become like this more mechanical society,
because it's more, you know, I mean,
I guess eventually they have their own kind
of personalities, each one.
But, you know, it seems like to me they would be more, you
know, dry almost a little bit where it's a robot coming up
with it, and they don't, I mean, I guess they, they can,
you know, pull up the jokes from the world
and what's relevant and things like that.
But yeah, creativity is the essence of,
I think, the, uh, the big dilemma with ai.
Uh, you know, we're in an esoteric community here
with Ascension Works tv, so I think we can really, um, kind
of spread our wings in this conversation a little bit.
I see. Creativity as a tool of gods Mm-Hmm.
Or an, uh, a characteristic of the Christ consciousness
or the, or the, or, or a divine nature.
Right? Right. Yeah.
Um, can, so the, so the question then becomes,
is an artificial,
or is an algorithm that we're calling ai creating something,
or is it deriving it from something else
that Well, I mean, it's the programmer, right?
That's the, it comes back to the programmer. Right.
That's, that's the creator. Right.
But once it's outta the programmer's hands, is, is
that AI actually creating something, or is it deriving it?
What do you mean? It's outta their hands?
Like once they've let it go,
and this thing's learning, collecting,
and doing it, whatever it wants to do without parameters.
Yeah. Because feel like, I mean, all these things,
when I think about it, like these, we,
we are getting a lot of AI all of a sudden.
Right? But that's just because
somebody had just dropped on us.
'cause a lot of people been using that s**t for a long time.
Right. A long decades, at least.
That, that certain organizations
who have this technology have been using it,
and probably a lot against us.
We all know, right. Collecting our data. Where are we at?
What are we doing? Where are we spending our money at?
Listening to our conversations, oh, you wanna talk about
that here, I'm gonna send this to you
so you can buy it now because you need it.
You've been talking about it. Um, you know,
those things are definitely happening.
So what we're getting is just kinda like the breadcrumbs
of these sandwiches people Sure.
For a long time, right? Sure, sure.
So there's a lot more going on than what we're aware
of in the past and in the, and currently.
And, uh, yeah.
But one of the things that people say is like, when you talk
to chat GBT or when you talk to someone,
you're gonna get these unbiased answers.
But it is probably not that way.
You know, there's, you know, media
and information is really misinformed a lot now,
and there's certain, obviously, agendas
that are being played out in a lot of different kinds
of, um, sure.
You know, media, so, sure.
But it seems like I would just be weary of, of that, um,
you know, that when you're using a certain thing
and trying to get certain answers for it to write a book,
is it gonna write one of these awoke book,
or is it gonna write, you know, this other kind of, uh,
child's book and what, what's it gonna give to you?
And, and is it gonna have themes in it
that are being played out globally right now in certain
civilizations or certain cultures around the world?
These are, these are fantastic questions,
and they're, they're probably a thousand more.
Um, and, uh, I, I just wanna shed light on
what we understand, to your point, what we, uh, understand
of artificial intelligence is really just a small sampling
of what the industry is working on.
Right? Sure. Yeah. So, and,
and the last bit on kind of how it works there is the,
the HMI, the human machine interface, right?
With the large language models
or whatever, uh, in input output, we're a avail
that's being made available to us, right?
Mm-Hmm mm-Hmm. But AI is vastly useful
outside of human machine interface.
Mm-Hmm. You can have AI informing other applications,
other systems, uh, mechanical or
otherwise, um, that I think in an industrial, uh, at,
at industrial scale, far exceeds the footprint
or the influence that AI might have on a culture, right?
It's being used in industry to, um, well in products
and in the operations.
Um, it's being used in media, as you said.
Um, I include in my notes, um,
and I'll make a link available, um, to those interested, uh,
after we, um, after we're live.
Um, it's, it's been used in media to write articles
that are then plugged into websites, uh,
with an author's name on it that might Mm-Hmm.
And that author has no existence outside of that article.
Mm-Hmm. And in fact, sports Illustrated,
uh, was caught doing this.
And, uh, anyway, that's another kerfuffle.
But I mean, the whole thing is, is, is really grounds for
subliminal messaging and agendas that take place for me,
because, you know, when you have algorithms
and things that can, you know, put someone's post at the top
because they're talking about things that this,
this platform likes, and this person's not,
and all I had here is catches a few key words on this one
and put this one up top and put ears at the bottom because,
or, and like, less people see it because, um, Mm-Hmm.
You know, I don't, you know, all I need is a few words
and then I can put 'em wherever I want to.
And I feel like that's probably happening. Um, whatever.
Hashtag people, that's
what I always see words people are using in their posts.
Mm-Hmm. And, and so that to me is where
it's definitely dangerous, because I,
and I don't wanna play devil as Advocate.
I told you that I would, but I mean,
I definitely am for and against it.
I, I mean, I feel like ultimately, I've told you
before, star Wars is my, is my documentary.
Yeah. And that C3 PO
and R 2D two are really out there somewhere, you know,
falling around some Jedi who's, who's just a mass
for Magi who's learned how to, you know, um, use the force.
And to me, that's what's, that's one thing too, I feel like,
to realize is like, we do have this magical force that's all
around us that we're all a part of,
and we can tap into that.
And so we don't need a telephone to,
to channel someone around the world.
We can do tele telepathy and,
and talk to someone in another country, you know,
just through our own minds.
'cause we're all connected. Um,
and we don't need phones to do that.
And so that's one of the things I often think
that it's artificial.
Do we need these things? Um, do we have to have 'em?
Does it, is our world, um, somehow in some kind
of party for not having these things?
Or are they, are they really needed?
And then I think about Maxi Krystal's goal,
which I feel like is super important to talk about,
because it is one thing
that's probably not gonna go in the discussion of AI often,
but really honestly, it has to be, is as
to bracket the conversation.
Yes, I agree. Crystals let's, uh, or courts, right?
Mm-Hmm mm-Hmm. Uh, let's,
that's what's in your phone making
saving up data and everything.
Quartz is everywhere. It's in, uh,
it's in every quartz clock or watch, uh, since the sixties.
Mm-Hmm. Um, it's, um, it's inherent
to technology, uh, through, its, um, through the,
its vibratory rates something like 32,000 hertz, right?
Mm-Hmm. And once you, once you can identify, um,
how quartz vibrates, uh, when you apply, um, a charge to it,
um, you can make that quartz either store information
or, uh, you can, um, run some ratios
and execute a clock Mm-Hmm.
On it, right? Yeah. Look into
a crystal ball and see the future.
Right. So Max is, I think, a fine example to,
to help us understand what ai, um,
is really trying to mimic.
So if we take, take a step back and look at the technocracy
and the, um, the layers of technology available to us
as consumers or professionals or what have you, right?
Mm-Hmm. Um, we can, it's not long
before the, uh, the awakened mind starts to understand
that technology in broken down, into,
into its parts is a proxy
for human capability.
Mm-Hmm. Right. So, a transducer radio is another example.
It uses quartz pizza, electric properties of courts to, uh,
to send out a, uh, a signal on the, uh,
on a certain bandwidth of the EMF spectrum.
Mm-Hmm. Guess what the pineal gland does?
There are little salt crystals in there. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
They get squeezed by a muscle Mm-Hmm. In the gland. Mm-Hmm.
And those crystals emit, uh, an e mf, right? Mm-Hmm.
Or they, uh, our, our aura. Mm-Hmm. Right.
So that's, um, AI is one example of,
uh, among many, like the ponti glen of, um,
an artificial, uh, proxy
to human, divine faculty.
Mm-Hmm. I firmly believe that.
I also want to touch on something you mentioned
with Star Wars and how other planets, other civilizations,
uh, galaxies, perhaps even other universes, are using ai
or have been for a long time.
I firmly agree that we are just, earth is a sandbox.
We're an experiment, uh, in this part of the universe that,
um, that, uh, well, and AI is just one example of this,
but we are a, um, we are simply a, an example of
the development of technology through, uh,
through divine intervention, through, um, uh,
through, I hate to say this,
but through military, um, the, uh,
technological development
through the ages has been largely influenced
through off planet exo politics.
Mm-hmm. And technology in general, like usually the best way
to find, you know, something that flies
or something that swims, you know,
or something that, um, you know,
like a submarine that goes underwater Mm-Hmm.
Is to, is to use animals and things
and how they're built, enable to, in order
to build an airplane
that mimics those things that that animal does.
And so it makes sense to mimic us in order
to create artificial intelligence.
So when you were talking about the crystals
and the pioneer gland, one point,
or one part of my life, when I had a spiritual experience,
I felt what felt like the crystals kind
of cracking up in the liquid.
Kinda like if you would break a, um, a glow stick.
I felt that exact, it's crazy.
I felt that feeling, but it felt like that to me.
Like, you know, the, the crack happened, the crystals mixed
with the liquid, and all of a sudden I had this glowing, um,
light in my head, but it didn't go outside of my head.
It was inside. But I instantly knew if I was able
to fully access my pineal gland in my third eye,
then I would have an ora around my head.
Right. And, uh, back to Max.
And I feel like there's people out there like,
why you didn't say much about Max.
I just wanted to say there's legend
of the Mayan 13 crystal skulls
and one in the British Museum Smithsonian,
Anna Mitchell Hedges skull, that's home
by her old late husband, or her husband, she died.
Anna Mitchell Hedges died. And, um, that's one with the,
the ch the, the cheekbone that's, um, not attached.
Um, that's one of the most famous ones,
but Max is a crystal skull, like 18 pounds, five crystals
fused together in a way we can't fuse 'em together today.
And, you know, along you guys have heard these crystal
skulls have gone through intense, um, you know,
a scientific investigation to find out about 'em.
And they just, we just can't do these things today.
And to me, you know, my, my awakening, um, I was like,
I found out about this thing and I had to go see it.
And I've seen it several times. I've
slept next to it overnight.
And this thing is basically a computer, I feel like
that needs no keyboard.
It doesn't need a mouse.
Like it's an intelligent, you know, almost kind of like, um,
captain Planet that the guy they used to talk to, you know,
was like a computer that talked, had a personality.
He's got his own voice and a personality.
And you can like, you know, be quiet, meditate,
and ask this thing questions,
and it can give you answers back loud and clear.
But it speaks kind of telepathically to you.
And I, I just, I feel like to me, that's, it's got,
it's some kind of artificial intelligence made
by an incredible shaman
or some kind of, you know, just hide, adept, advance entity.
Mm-Hmm. You know what I mean? In somehow some way. Mm-Hmm.
But this thing I feel like had the
connection to the acoustic record.
So, you know, certain people who are not
so spiritual can have artificial intelligence.
It kind of takes advantages of people
and, you know, may not have the moral values.
And there's some people who could create something.
I think that's so pure, blissfully beautiful and, and,
and amazing that you could spend 30 minutes of this thing
and change your life and you'd be like, wow, that's crazy.
But this is a crystal. And then there're just random
crystals, you know, that can actually
communicate with you and talk to you.
So, but this one was much different than all
of those experiences I had with just random crystals.
This was much more intense, much more energy charged, um,
this thing, new thing's about my life
that just made me ball out crying
and had a personality too to boot.
So, yeah, I think, you know, we're just looking at a small,
a small fraction of lens of, of what is available,
what's possible, and
that things like Star Wars really are true,
that they probably are aliens out there
and entities even on this planet that have robots
that help 'em do things
and, you know, are super intelligent.
And I mean, I mean, I guess again, there is no,
when it comes to, to creation
and creator, there's, there's no end.
It just could probably get infinitely crazy to what's the,
what's the guy on the marvel with the,
that has the jewel in his head?
You know what I'm talking about? He, his,
his wife a lady is the Scarlet Witch.
Yep. Um, somebody's gonna pull it up here in a second.
But, you know, that dude is like super cool man.
And he's, you know, obviously some kind
of artificial intelligence
and it's like, here it is right in front of you.
We can create things you guys wouldn't even imagine. Yeah.
Yeah. You mentioned the Akash, you know, what is the cloud
a proxy for the Akaka?
Yeah. What is the internet? The internet sure.
Is the physical rendering of the internet,
of all things being connected.
Mm-Hmm. The cloud is,
it's like all these things people are making.
Yeah. And that's why it's hard
to determine sometimes if it's okay or not.
'cause they do mimic natural law
and natural, um, natural ideas Mm-Hmm.
And things like that. Mm-Hmm.
The, uh, you're hitting on some really good subjects and,
and, and researching some of these, um, I've run,
I'm running across a lot of different, um, projects to
bring coherence to the Akashic,
or at least here on this planet, right?
Mm-Hmm. And it becomes abundantly clear that
AI is a clarifying tool on the technology side
to bring coherence to a society.
Now, whether that is, uh, done in, you know, according
to an agenda or not, is another matter.
Right. Uh, we talked about, um, uh,
how chat GPT will provide an answer that, uh,
fits a certain format
or might, you know, it might shy away from certain subjects
or certain, uh, give you a certain tone, right?
Mm-Hmm. Well, AI can be trained to, uh,
and we're seeing this with, um, with Elon's new, um, uh, AI
that, um, I, I won't mention the name of it,
but the, um, the tone, the breadth
of information, it's working with the depth, um,
or the risk
or the, um, uh, any, any
taboo subjects can be trained in
or out of the domain of that AI's knowledge base.
Right? Mm-Hmm. Um, it, it gets,
it gets really fascinating just, just to understand
how broad the potentialities really are
and just, um, our, you know, those tools
that are being made available to the consumer,
you know, for free Mm-Hmm.
You know, once you start really diving into
what the capabilities are
and, um, applying large amounts of money right.
To developing those capabilities Mm-Hmm.
You know, the sky's the limit. It's possible to come up
with, um, just without any code whatsoever.
You can jump online
and build a company according to, uh, a, a pretty simple set
of steps, um, that, um, that
can, um, uh, define that, that, that build
for that company, you can define
and execute, uh, your own bot that will
optimize for certain conditions, whether it's going
to book clients
or provide information according to a data set
that's not available elsewhere.
Right. Differentiating your company from others Mm-Hmm.
Et cetera, et cetera. That's impossible without any
code background whatsoever.
Mm-Hmm. So, which, you know, I can see the convenience
for a company to want to have that.
Sure. You know, that's great. Yeah.
Is that taken away from some kind of person's job?
And does that take away from the human aspect of, you know,
meeting someone, talking to someone,
someone representing a company instead of Yeah.
You know, this kind of fake artificial thing.
I mean, you know what I mean? Like Sure.
The conversations that you have with a company calls you up
and says, you know, this is whatever company,
and we're, you know, trying, basically trying to get money,
but it's an AI Yeah.
Thing. Talking to you. So annoying. And I'm like, what?
I would, I would kill just to talk to, uh,
a normal person every once in a while.
You know, it feels like every time someone calls me now,
it's says fake artificial
and restaurant chains are trying
to bake AI into the drive-through lane.
Mm. Uh, it's, and the self checkouts and Yeah.
Uh, so the, the, this is a really good thread,
uh, a sub thread on artificial intelligence.
To what extent does it take away from the,
uh, opportunities for, um,
either a coder or a, um, or, or an,
or any or a writer.
Mm-Hmm. Um, so artificial general intelligence,
the theory is that most, if not all,
but, uh, most, um, intellectual
and economically valuable tasks
can be performed by an ai Mm-Hmm.
Right. That means middle management. Mm-Hmm.
That means accounting, that means, um, writing.
So getting back to creativity versus, uh,
the, the, the, the creativity of the human spirit
versus the rec recla rec, excuse me, capitalism
and profit is, is that what it comes down to?
That's what you of, of ai.
Um, we get into, uh, a philosophical dilemma now.
So, um, and I want to,
I wanna dive into those in just a moment.
Mm-Hmm. Um, getting back to kind of flow here, um,
I think we have a pretty good understanding of
what AI can do Mm-Hmm.
How it works. So, um,
probably an elementary understanding, honestly.
Of course. Right. And,
and again, this could be a thread
that can go a year long, I suppose.
Sure. Yeah. Um, but the trillion dollar question,
what is the trillion dollar question you're kind
of hitting on it, and I'll go ahead and, um,
and pull it up here in my notes.
The, it seems that the industry is
grappling with this very subject.
Is this a constraint
or an opportunity?
Well, I think it comes down to whether and how we regulate
and enforce an AI ecosystem Mm-Hmm.
As a group, as a nation, as an industry, as a whatever.
Right. So to what extent can, uh, and,
and how really can we regulate or, and,
and enforce training data, uh, optimization criteria,
algorithm algorithms, such
that the net effect on humanity Mm-Hmm.
Is a benefit. Yeah.
That's where I think Martin Luther King hit it on the hit
the, hit it on the nail, um, was that we need to become a,
a people oriented society rather than like a thing
or a profit or, you know, like that's,
that's the most important thing is what is, go ahead.
The regulation is not, it's not worthy of anything.
You know, money, politics, ai, like, it all needs
to be about human beings first and foremost.
And if it's not, you know, there's a lot of people who,
the globalist people out there
who are gonna use it to their advantage.
Mm-Hmm. To, you know, I mean,
obviously we've seen that in the past couple years.
The rich are getting really rich and the rest of us are not.
And Mm-Hmm. That works out to their benefit
and facial recognition, less people working
jobs being taken away.
That, that is a, a,
a real clear concern, I think, for a lot of people.
And I think a lot of people have already. Yeah.
I know personally, I've experienced layoffs and stuff
because they're long, no longer needed.
Um, their jobs are, are outdated now because of this thing.
And I feel like that's the place where we need
to be really careful when talking about regulation.
Are people gonna lose their jobs over this?
Um, and is that possible?
You know, I mean, it is not that we have to regulate ai.
We have to, we have to change our world basically, you know,
and be, be world.
It is, uh, fundamentally, fundamentally, uh,
just focused on people.
And I feel like we all have to do that. Agreed.
This is a big part of the dilemma. Yeah.
Uh, like Bezos is using, he said in the next couple years,
like, how many 50% of packages could be delivered by drones?
And then it's like, how many people will be outta jobs?
'cause he can just shoot a drone to somebody's house.
And then, you know, that's, and
so I think if more than anything, if we don't,
if we're not careful, that s**t can hit us
really fast and really quick.
And we need to put our money and our energy
and our attention to go into place
and flow to places that Yeah.
At least if they're gonna use these things, use it
for the benefit of people.
But let's, but let's understand, um,
or let's, let's not neglect that this is
not a new dilemma.
Automation in industry, uh, has, uh, been with us
really since Ford, right?
Mm-Hmm. The, um, assembly line
allowed a crew to pump out 200 cars in a day.
Mm-Hmm. Right. Well, that
is fundamentally different from the craft work
of a hand assembled car, right?
Sure. Well, since then, we're now using
AI powered robots,
and now really the human function in a
complex manufacturing like that, let's take Tesla, uh,
or any, any others, you know, and Sure, yeah, sure.
Um, the human function has been, uh, moved into
a managerial role, right?
Mm-Hmm. Or a quality assurance role for sure. Yeah. Right.
So the, the factory is designed
and built by the workforce,
and that workforce is then tasked to operate it, such
that quality standards and productivity are met.
Mm-Hmm. Okay. That's nothing new.
The difference here is that efficiency
and quality can be further enhanced
through intelligent robots, right?
That's right. So working with the theory that, um,
automation is, has been ramping up
for the last a hundred years and will not stop.
Yes. It, it behooves we the people
to keep our skillset Mm-Hmm.
Aligned with what the future holds and not the present
or past the, um, and,
and also allows us to dive into, uh, further specialization.
Mm-Hmm. So rote tasks
we know have been, um, uh, assumed
gradually by automation.
Now we have more intelligent tasks
now being assumed by Mm-Hmm.
Intelligent, um, inte, uh, algorithms. Mm-Hmm.
This is where, um, this is I think precisely
what the European Union
and the United States have been, uh, focused
to protect the workforce, right?
Right. Yeah. Uh, and the consumer and,
and everybody else in between.
Right? So you have now products
and services that are subject to, um,
artificial intelligence.
That means that less involvement
or perhaps transcendent involvement Mm-Hmm.
Uh, from all of the humans involved in that supply chain
or that value chain, um, are now, um,
um, now calling for different skillsets.
Right. And the robots and AI are doing the, the work.
The work. Right. And we're, we're,
and so then we have to be really careful.
I mean, do you ever think at some point, just
'cause you got robots, they're just gonna do
what you tell 'em to do all the time.
If you have these super smart gathering data,
gathering information, I mean, is there like this aha moment
for robots too?
I mean, we've, we've definitely seen it, you know, short,
we talked about this other short circuit, you know,
the thing got electrocuted
and all of a sudden he is Johnny number five,
and what are you doing?
How, right. Right.
That sometimes robots become conscious eventually.
And, um, I think that's something to, I mean, I, you know,
who knows how, how no one knowing, one
that I know has ever experienced something like that.
But I do feel like with all the movies that we've seen with,
you know, civilizations that have probably gone well, well
beyond what we're at right now,
I think things like that have to happen.
A a really good example of this recently was, um,
displayed in full view for, uh, we, the people
to understand, um, how ais think.
Right? Mm-Hmm. Uh, there was a robot at a trade show moving,
uh, working on a PICC line.
Uh, imagine a big distribution center,
and you have boxes flowing on conveyor
belts everywhere, and it stops.
And a robot, a human
or a robot, needs to, uh,
play some product into it according to, um, a bill
of lading or what have you.
Right. Well, a robot was doing this,
and it was going to be doing it all day long.
Yeah. Have you seen this? No, I don't think so.
So the robot, the, out the, it took some forensics
to figure this out afterward,
but the robot determined that this was a dead end job.
Wow. And it dropped, it fell to the floor. Really.
It decided that without, um, continuously learning
and improving itself and, um, and growing Mm-Hmm.
It decided it wasn't, it was done,
it was not gonna do it anymore.
Sounds like natural intelligence. Right. Okay.
Now, uh, now compare that to some,
to a human being in the same position.
Yeah. Right. A hundred. Okay.
Let's say I have a job, uh, where I,
I'm just there to make some money.
Let's say it's, I'm just there seasonally.
Um, I know that there's an end point to this.
I'm just there to, to, uh, pad my bank account
and then get out Mm-Hmm.
Whatever the reason is. Or let's say I really like
this job because it doesn't require me using my brain.
I'm just using my body in a muscle memory sort of way.
Right. Just there to make, I'm following simple directions.
I'm doing simple tasks Sure. And I clock out and I'm done.
Right? Mm-Hmm. Well, guess what I can do during that?
I can meditate. Hmm.
I can grow in other ways
because I have a connected conscience.
Right. Something that a robot doesn't have, it does it.
So if it sees its boundary
and that it's, it, its own algorithm will not permit it to,
uh, expand its own capabilities beyond that boundary.
Yeah. Then yeah, feudalism comes into, comes into play.
Mm-Hmm. But as a human being, I don't mind doing that job
because I know
that there's perhaps growth potential within the company.
Mm-Hmm. Um, if I do it better, faster, cheaper than,
you know, than in the next person, then there's opportunity.
Yeah. Um, or if I don't care,
then I can simply just let my mind wander.
So I, I think there's a really good argument for, um,
the risk of a, an algorithm
or a robot if, if it's given physical form
to become sentient Mm-Hmm.
But it doesn't take long to figure out that, you know, if,
if a if an algorithm has a set definition
and it needs to work within those optimization parameters
and, and such, um, I can outsmart it.
Right. So is it a threat to me? No.
I have infinite ways where I can outsmart any,
um, any algorithm.
Yeah. I do believe that. It's a little Right.
I, I mean, I agree. I believe the human brain is
more capable of it.
I don't, I don't We're connected. Yeah. All those, yeah.
We're connected to the inner net,
and so, you know, all things in the record
and everything is all available to us.
I feel like, you know, as, as we evolve
and as we meditate into our spiritual practices,
I think we're all kinda getting, um, more connected.
Yeah. But it is, it's certainly crazy.
And it's, you know, it's a, it's a, the debate of
has our technology surpassed our humanity in this thing too.
So we have to be careful, um,
'cause, you know, kind like the, the Jurassic Park, just
because we can do it doesn't doesn't mean we should.
And, and I wanna go back to
what you were talking about jobs earlier.
And I feel like that's something that's,
that's really happened on this planet,
is we've got this caste system.
More people, if you work in a fast food restaurant
or something like that, you're lower than someone else
who does this job over here.
And I feel like that's a place where we need
to really understand
that people eat three times a day normally.
And, um, just
because someone works at a restaurant,
serving food doesn't make them any less than anybody
else who does this job over here.
People need to get their haircut, get their lawn cut,
they need to eat, they need to get their car fixed.
And I don't think any job's below any other job,
but I feel like we get into a very detrimental spot in
society when we have a caste system where someone
who does this is more glamorous
and is a better job when all jobs are really important.
And then we say, well, that job's not important,
so let's give it to robots.
And, you know, that's not true, man.
I, I don't, I don't, I want my food being made
by someone who's happy, someone who's feels good,
who feels valued, who's grateful
for the work that they're doing.
I don't want a robot to make my food.
I don't want a robot me up. Yeah. Bring me drinks.
I want it to be a real human with the heart.
Um, unless the, you know, what is that guy on the marvel?
Um, unless it's some dude who's really, you know,
has his own personality and conscious
and wants un unmute Cody.
He'll, uh, he'll remind us.
I'm gonna look it up in a second. I know.
I, it's, it's like right there. Uh, chat.
GPT who's the guy with the whatever.
Uh, so back to the trillion dollar question.
How, how do we, how do we define
that net benefit to humanity?
Um, I see it as a measure of, uh,
cognitive capacity, socioeconomic, welfare, community.
Um, like you said, I wanna be served
or I want to interface with.
I'd like to, um, I'd like to work alongside someone
with a heart and an aura, uh,
that I can interface with directly.
Mm-Hmm. Agreed.
So to what extent does AI provide a net benefit to humanity?
Vision, sorry, vision vision's name.
I was, I can't think of it at all. Yes. I, I do.
I I agree, man. I, yeah.
I feel like that's what's important.
I mean, we have to come to a society based on people,
and that's the most important thing in the whole world.
Each individual human is more valuable than any
machine or any amount of money.
Um, and I work in a job where I feel like, um, you know, I,
I, I work with humans every day,
and sometimes I don't feel like these are value to humans
by certain, you know,
our governments someplace and things like that.
So it can be sad sometimes,
but, you know, to try to advocate
as much as you can for these people.
But yeah, I mean, I feel like I, I've never,
I don't feel like I've ever looked down on
anybody because they worked a certain job.
As long as you're working and maintenance
of money for yourself, that's great.
And if you're not working, and hey man, if you're not having
to work and you're somehow getting biased, good too.
You know? But I don't think any job I've ever felt
like was, was better.
There seemed to be something more glamorous and more fun.
But I mean, working in a restaurant can be great.
It can be fun. It can be, you know, great to fill people up
and give people good food and, you know what I mean?
Like, just, it just doesn't have to be something that's, oh,
you work at this restaurant so you're a low life, you know,
deserve minimum wage or, you know, and minimum wage.
I mean, dude, we were all, our money's all been so inflated.
That doesn't matter if we're making 50
or $60 an hour at this point.
You know, I remember making four bucks an hour, man.
I was trying to think what was the lowest I've ever made.
It was probably like five or 6, 4 25. Oh, man.
It might've been 4 25 that was Yep,
I remember that number nineties.
Uh, okay. So a lot of what we're talking about is, uh,
I just wanna point out this is philosophically equivalent
to, um, conversations in law, money,
uh, academia, right.
Religion. Yep. Um, what do you know,
how do we organize
and manage these areas of our lives such that
we are not excluding any particular class or person, um,
and we are providing an overall benefit to, uh, to the whole
or to the, to the all to the one.
Hmm. Right. So I think, um,
if we getting into the root of this issue and,
and including automation throughout history.
Right, right. Yeah. Gotcha.
Um, through our history, through this iteration of tarn
humanity, um, this really comes down
to balancing light and dark, um, in, in development.
So if we have the dark in service to enriching the few,
for example, right.
We're gonna make things so, so efficient that, uh,
the people at the top make even more money.
Right? Right. Our, our do things
to infringe upon our freedoms
or do things, you know, like if you don't, you don't
behave your electric car off.
Right. Or think a certain way. Right.
So we'll turn your, we'll turn your smart meter off.
You don't have power in your house anymore. Yeah.
Like I say, no, nobody's rights
and privileges, not even privileges.
The things that we're all as living human beings are given
our God rights to, and to have and to need, and to water
and food into, to the resources.
All those things should never be a branch upon. Right.
So you have the social engineering side
of this thing, right?
And then we have, uh, the light, right, which is
that net benefit, the cognitive growth, the connectedness,
the et cetera.
Mm-Hmm. Um, can ai ai be a part of
a balanced growth in humanity in those respects?
I think it can, uh, we'll get into some thesis here.
Oh, wow. I all humanity, you try to, if you try
to every word, um, yeah.
Go through. We're extend that just under an hour,
so we'll go for a little bit more.
For sure. Well, all right. So we're just touching on, um,
some elements of, um, the next, the next kind
of major subject here, which is the, the spiritual or,
or quantum dilemma.
That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah.
This is really just one piece of
that whole umbrella subject.
Probably my biggest one I, you know, feel, you know, called
to talk about is the spiritual dilemma of all this.
Mm-Hmm mm-Hmm.
I mean, you know, and I'll, I'll start it and I kick it off,
because when you talk about that, you know, you,
you talk about people on social media
and every picture is a filter,
and every person looks so good, and that, you know, perfect
and skin's flawless and everything.
And that's all great, man. That's,
but at the end of the day, like when you get a hundred likes
or a thousand likes,
because you know, that picture looks so perfect
and pristine, and then a real one of yourself doesn't,
what does that do to your, your humanity?
Your self-esteem? You know,
that the real raw you isn't good enough somehow
that some AI generated filter makes you better,
makes you get more likes, makes you have,
have more popularity.
Mm-Hmm. And then what happens when you actually go outside
to, you know, a party or something like that?
And then, you know, people don't see,
they think they have this, you know, altered view of
what you should look like, and you don't look like that.
And then, you know, they're disappointed in something.
So, and that's gonna really take a shot at your self-esteem.
So there, those kind of things, I,
and I feel like just the natural, you know, laws
of the universe get affected here a little bit when we
introduce AI and artificial intelligence into the world.
And so I think it is something, uh, you know, definitely
to be careful of, you know, those fake pictures
and, and the fake people.
And, and, and like I said, we were talking earlier about
to get on there and creating some masterpiece.
And, you know, I know, uh, for Ascension work, ccb,
we have some incredible pictures that we use
and some of them are AI generated, and I'm super thankful
'cause I don't think any of us could paint any of that.
But, um, you know, there are people who do paint
and they paint a picture that would look like,
that would take, I don't know, days, weeks, maybe to do some
of these artistic works.
And I wonder, does that put someone like that at a business
or we, where we should, we could have bought, you know,
someone's artwork or, or an image
that someone actually painted rather than asking this app
to make us, you know, a cool picture that we can use.
So to your point, are we talking about paint?
Are we talking about Photoshop, you know, a digital paint?
Mm-Hmm. You know, the, and,
and I think the, we wouldn't have to look back very far
to see the progression.
Uh, AI speeds things up, so now I can just offer a prompt.
Right. Whereas before I was, I,
I was collecting different elements and, and layering them
and brushing, you know, and doing a lot of stuff digitally,
but it was a lot faster than working with oil
or water, for instance.
Right? Yeah. It is faster.
So, and that's, I think that's,
that's the key thing is everything in AI seems
convenient, easy.
Sure. You know what I mean? And it makes your life easier,
more convenient, and, you know,
and I feel like to some extent,
sometimes having an easy life for everything
to be super convenient can
be something that hurts us in the end.
Because guess what? Guess now we go to the convenience store
and pick up our groceries,
and nobody knows how to grow any of that stuff.
No one knows how to turn the soil and rotate crops
and, you know, if somebody's done for us.
So once the prices go up,
because all the plants have been burned down,
and now everything's super expensive,
we can't do those things and it goes up too high, then a lot
of us won't even be able to eat.
Um, so I feel like you know, that saying
that easy times create easy folks.
I mean, that's something we have to Yep.
You know, really have to think about, like, how,
how much is the convenience worth?
Is it worth to not know how to make preservatives, is not
how to grow your own food
and, you know, make your own clothes
and those kind of things, because we can just go buy
it for cheap price.
Yeah. Yeah. So to understand
how AI plays into the spiritual war, or this,
or this dilemma Mm-Hmm.
I think it's helpful just to understand the, the motives
behind the, the technocracy or the, or AI in general.
The raison detra AI is a means of control
in the eyes of its handlers,
or if it's, or if it's creators.
It's a, it's a, it's a means of executing some sort
of fundamental, um, either a process to make things easy in,
in a small scale or in a large scale.
It's, it's means of controlling massive change. Hmm. Right.
Influencing, informing, guiding, um, you know, somehow,
uh, bringing a group into some sort of set of behaviors
that wasn't, or that was,
that's different from what was before.
Right. Right. Yeah. Um,
by comparison, we have the Akashic
or the social memory complex, or the connected conscience.
Right. We, humans are connected in ways that allow us to
learn from each other without having, right.
This is, um, won't get into, um,
some of the proof of behind this,
but we are now, um,
in a, in a time
and space where we can see the artificial equivalent
to what humans have had for many, many thousands of years.
Mm-Hmm. Right? Mm-Hmm.
Let's stay cognizant of that.
Let's discern, let's be critical thinkers.
It's not hard for an expert to look through, uh,
the output from a large language model.
And I'm quoting, um, excuse me, Jill Nephew,
a behavior scientist who's, um, who's been on the circuit,
um, for ai, um, on various, um, outlets.
It's not hard for a, an expert
to see chat GPT output as essentially a word salad.
Yeah. Right.
So someone who's really done the research in a specific area
can identify the constraints within which chat GPT is
working to produce an answer that sounds trustworthy,
that sounds thorough, that, uh, that we can echo
to somebody else and that person's gonna go, wow.
You know, without, um, without any real context.
Uh, it's believable, it's trustworthy. Right? Yeah.
So if you don't know enough about it, sounds good. Yeah.
But it's not thoroughly researched like a human. Right.
And it may be just a conversation starter, right? Yeah.
Mm-Hmm. But it could be, you know, when it has more access
and they're able to, you know, fast, uh, quickly
and fast, pick up new things Sure.
Be able to, you know, find things
all over the world in different places.
Sure. Imagine it could be, you know,
instantaneous essentially.
Yeah. I, I raised this as, uh, to, to, um,
offer s uh, some meat behind the theory that
the motives, um, the motives are constrained.
They're, there're they are of a service to self nature.
Mm-Hmm. And secondly,
that technology does not create, it emulates,
it can derive, um, it can offer an optimized
collection of responses that sound complete,
but it's up to us
and it's up to an expert who's interpreting that output to,
um, to accept it as a data point
and apply normal,
highly developed cognition, um,
to bring in context, to bring in a deeper understanding to,
to know where to, uh, to peel back and, and look further.
Um, so this, Hmm. I know we're out time.
This, we're not outta time. We're, I mean, you're okay.
You're good. Um, we can go as long as you want to,
but we're not gonna go too long.
Um, anyway, so Um, there's, there's a lot to cover here.
Um, uh, and I,
but far as the spiritual aspect, I mean, yeah,
just the meat and bones of that.
Like, I mean, if you really, honestly think about it,
they got us from the beginning on this.
Uh, we are interacting, especially even now,
we're interacting with robots.
I mean, my daughter in there ha has, uh, robot unicorns
and robot dogs, and they walk around and they bark
and they make all kinds of noises.
And I was talking to you about this earlier.
It's interesting because it just looks like a stuffed
unicorn, but ultimately you pull the skin off that thing,
and it's a robot that walks around.
And, you know, when I was, saw it at the other day,
just hugging it and loving it, oh my God,
I love this robot unicorn.
And she didn't say that, but she said, unicorn.
And I'm like, man, that's,
I think about taking the skin off that thing.
And I know it's a robot, and it's got middle bells
and whistles and moving parts and Mm-Hmm.
It's, you know, all it runs on batteries
and it, you know, the, some
of these cars have remotes and things like that.
And I mean, that's, we're literally hugging
and, um, playing with these robots.
And these robots are really,
and sometimes more attractive than, than,
than the dog or something that doesn't have the bark
and the robot movements and the walking and the,
and the batteries, and
the batteries and everything like that.
And it's crazy. Like, it gets your attention really fast.
And then when this thing dies out, she's really sad.
She's really mad. Gotta get batteries, dad.
We gotta get batteries. And
but the other toys that are probably her most, you know,
the favorite right now are these
just regular stuffed animals.
Yeah. And those, the ones that say, you know, I'm a puppy
and I'm this, and all these things.
And so the imagination is far more on fire than obviously
when we read a book than when we watch television.
When we play with stuffed animals over robots.
We create those sounds and
we create those things in our mind.
And, you know, it's just,
I don't even think we're really conscious
and aware of that aspect in general.
It's like, we're already, we're really getting involved
and interacting with these things from the get go, you know?
And I didn't even think about that until we had this topic,
which I think is one of the great things about doing,
doing a podcast like this is to really get my mind going
and thinking about how this is affecting my life.
And really, it affects my life in more ways than I can ever
imagine from my car to my kids to, you know, uh,
could I be lose my job
because, you know, someone's been able to do the things
that I do from a, from a computer
or from an, from an artificial standpoint.
So I think that's something we really need to be aware of.
And like, again, our technology is to kind of surpass that
of our humanity at this point.
We need to catch up. We need to be care about others.
And, you know, why, why do people wanna play
with shiny robots, toys and these other toys?
And just be careful. Everything in moderation.
And, you know, don't just throw 'em off
and every animal's gotta be this super cool thing.
You know, use your imagination. Play, draw.
Um, I mean, I, you know, sometimes draw over an iPad,
book over a movie, you know what I mean?
And those things get our brains really going.
So, um, I think when it comes to easy, when it comes to,
you know, convenient when it comes to what's flashy
and bright lights and stuff, sometimes that's that thing
that leads us down to zombie light.
And sometimes we're not
really interacting with people anymore.
We don't even look at people anymore.
We don't have interact with, you know, our our families
and our coworkers and everything else,
unless it's on a screen or, you know.
Yeah. Something like that. So, yeah.
No, you raised, you raised a very good point.
And, uh, this is why I, uh,
never really replaced the batteries in my kids' toys.
Probably smart, you know,
that's Well, and they were younger.
Um, uh, yeah.
It's the, the imagina, the imagination that, um,
that connection with the,
or the personification of that toy
that really brings out the value of, of, um, yeah.
So let's, yeah, let's do move on.
'cause we don't, we're gonna be sure on time,
I know you got some things that you wanna Yeah.
Wrap it up. Wrapping up the, the spiritual quantum dilemma.
Um, I see ai, the end game, uh, we,
we hear a little bit about, uh, transhumanism, um,
artificial general intelligence
and the perceived threat that it brings to managerial,
even managerial roles in, in mm-Hmm.
In industry. Mm-Hmm. Uh, we have, um, uh, part
of the end game, I, I I see
the polarized evolutionary pathways, right?
Mm-Hmm. We have right brain dominant, right brain dominant,
and left brain disconnected.
This is another, uh, Jill nephew observation.
The, um, the usurpation
of divine faculties.
Mm-Hmm. By technology, in other words,
we're gonna get lazy, right?
That's the perceived threat. Mm-Hmm.
We're going to become disconnected.
We're going to be completely reliant. It's a crutch.
It's no longer just a tool to, uh, to improve the, the,
the quality or speed of an output.
Mm-Hmm. It's now the primary, um, um,
the primary crutch.
So the, on on on the
spiritual side, we have the social memory complex,
and I'm, I'm using a lot of one term there,
but, um, the end game in
spiritual progression is transcendence.
Hmm. It's intuition, it's spiritual growth, connectedness,
awareness, uh,
and well coordinated brain hemispheres, right?
In other words, it's a fully developed human right? Yeah.
With all of its faculties.
So we have now the, the, the different mode of sets.
And again, it comes back to, let's use our discernment.
Let's be critical thinkers.
Let's never forget that an AI piece,
an artificially generated piece of information
is one data point by which we make decisions.
This is why, um hmm.
Uh, this is why there's always gonna be a, a human, um,
involved in most critical life safety decisions
or, um, in, uh, in a,
in a defensive posture out on the, out on a battlefield.
Right. You're, you're, you're never going to s hmm.
I suspect we will not see
on this planet an ai, um,
dominant or an, an AI claiming dominion over,
uh, any part of the human race,
not if we have anything to do with it.
Right? Right. Yeah.
Um, and I think we're getting help on that one as well.
Yeah. Um, so
with this in mind, I think we can move into, um, the kind
of the, um, well, I think we can get into the,
my, my la my final two theses.
Okay. Let's do that. Okay. Let's roll.
You know, there's a whole risk analysis we can get into.
I, I've, uh, similar to environmental impact reports
and, uh, you know, process hazard, uh, uh, analysis
or failure mode effects, um, in the, in the physical world,
there, um, there is room for a thorough
risk assessment, uh, according to all the different terms.
Um, and, and, um, uh, by which we interact
with technology.
Right? Mm-Hmm, sure. Okay. We're gonna skip all that.
Skip it. We'll do it again though. We'll do it again.
I told you, man, now our comes and goes real quick.
All right. Two thesis number one, I suspect that the degree
of influence of AI over we, the people individually
or as a group, I, I suspect that the degree
of influence is going to be a measure
of our self-determined sovereignty.
Hear me out on this. Sovereignty has multiple facets, um,
in technology, law, money, academia, and mind, body, spirit.
Mm-Hmm. We are sovereign in all those ways, as long
as we identify ourself as such as an individual, as a group.
And speaking of those layer layers, um, there are, uh,
a set, there are sets of moral values
and ethical standards at play in, um,
in a new earth technology or technocracy
or technology ecosystem.
Sure. So if we couple this subject along
with many others about where this planet, uh, is going,
where we the people are going, where I, as an individual
where, where the, the collective consciousness going,
I suspect that in a new earth scenario, we're, uh,
we will be claiming sovereignty in terms of moral values
and ethical standards in technology development.
This will determine how
and to what extent, what the magnitude and
and characteristics are of the influence
of AI on our development.
If we can claim our sovereignty in all those different ways,
um, keep faith
and optimistic, uh, use loving intent in,
in those algorithms, uh,
and essentially optimize for a service
to others social norm, mm-Hmm.
AI will continue to be a tool for the growth
and expansion of humanity, or we individuals.
Mm-Hmm. Yeah. That's my first thesis.
Um, number two do it. Okay.
Artificial intelligence, I suspect when, when,
when we lift ourselves up
to the highest transcended point of view.
Mm-Hmm. Artificial intelligence, I suspect is a tool
of the gods to, uh,
and I say God's plural.
Mm-Hmm. Um, essentially
to support the polarized nature of
the schoolhouse earth scenario
that we're in currently Mm-Hmm.
Such that we have from a negative
or a fallen angel perspective, we have, uh, means of control
and enrichment, but from a positive
or ascendant perspective, we have decision aids,
we have rote tasks that are taken over, uh, that allow us
to spend time with family
or specialize in our career or what have you.
Right. And we have, um, a tool
that will, will help us aid in, uh, aid ourselves
that will aid us in our own awareness paths.
Hmm. So if I can ans if I can ask questions of chat GPT
that are not bounded to secular sciences or to, um,
or to a certain, uh, agenda, if I can,
if I can approach some more esoteric subjects
or the mysteries of, of humanity or the universe.
Yeah. Um, I suspect that the likes
of chat GPT will be very useful for the next generation.
Mm-Hmm. Um, and then we have a benign perspective
or a, a, a transcendent perspective above polarity where,
uh, I suspect AI will be, um, an aid
and a challenge, uh, for the growth
and refinement of the physical realm and mass.
Hmm. I don't see,
um, I don't see ai, um, as
a, as a threat knowing that,
um, it's in use elsewhere.
Mm-Hmm. And ultimately, um,
it is a, i i, I suspect a, um, a, a tool for the growth
and development, further technical
and spiritual development of the physical realm.
Mm-Hmm, sure.
So, and seeing
that we are in a mass ascension window here on this planet,
I, I think the timing is no coincidence.
So, oh, absolutely. That's my, that's my second thesis.
This is why I'm,
I'm supremely optimistic about our relationship with ai.
I think we will achieve a balance.
It will be clear and and concise.
We have a yin
and yang connection with technology by way of this, uh, sort
of natural or,
or, uh, um, uh, this natural interface
where we can just offer a prompt
and it's gonna give back information in, in, in a,
in a easy, um, and, and integrable way.
Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I agree.
I and I, but I think it, I always, I'm Jim Gemini, so I,
I think both, I think I see both polarities the positive
and negative negative b um, viable at the same time.
You know, like there are gonna be people who use it
to the greatest good for create, for creating things
and making life easier for some people, making, you know,
medical devices, whatever.
And then there's gonna be people who are gonna, you know,
steal your photos off of your social media
and create a version of your kid and, you know, make a voice
and, you know, come the ultimate scam
and scam people outta their mind
because they think their kid's kidnapped or something.
Um, both are definitely uses of a tool.
And the thing about tools are, is like, you know,
a gun is a tool and there's a lot of people who hunt
and who sport and, you know, have, have lots of guns
and no one ever gets hurt or killed or anything.
Um, and those people, a lot of times people like
that would think, you know, I, I couldn't see
what anybody would do anything else with it other than to,
you know, food for your family, uh, for fun, for sport,
for target practice, whatever.
And then there's some people who are gonna go shoot up an
entire movie theater because there's something, you know,
there's a missing piece inside,
or they've been convinced to think certain things.
Um, and that's a tool.
The thing about AI is, you know, what,
probably kill a couple dozen people
with a gun at most at one time
before someone's gonna end that process.
But AI is something
that we could subliminally check an entire civilization
or culture or countries, um, to think and to,
and to feel certain ways and to have certain agendas.
Um, and so I, I hope that we do,
and I think the way we avert this is to find
that sovereignty, like you said, within ourselves,
to get back our own power.
To take your own power back in each in individual person.
Doing that really does have a massive amount
of influence on the world
by really taking back your own sovereignty
and not allowing anyone
or any entity to take advantage of us,
to lie to us, cheat us steal.
And as we start to do that, I think we,
we don't allow our governments to do that to us.
We don't allow, you know, politicians and things like that,
but we've got to have that integrity, that 100% honesty,
um, love for ourselves and our neighbor
and implement that every day.
And that will just, you know,
vibrate out into a society that looks like that.
I would say the majority of people, uh,
create a collective conscious that,
that a president reflects that back
to us, what we are, you know?
Yeah. Our politicians reflect that.
So we've gotta really be careful on our own dealings and,
and how we talk to each other and all those kind of things.
But think, I think,
I think next time we can get into a little bit more about
how, um, random number generators and,
and you know, that's a good point.
Responding to the common conscience.
We have to say it though, what you're talking about,
the number generators, the Global Coherence Project.
And, and Dalai Lama was asked like,
when these things are flipping just random ones and zeros,
and then something like Princess Diana or nine 11 happens,
and these things start to start to flip in a certain pattern
that's obviously no longer random
because emotions influence these number generators.
And I said, are there, therefore are the number generators
conscious in the Dalai Lama opera while,
and he goes, if you think they're conscious,
they're conscious, yeah.
Yeah. Should blow my mind.
Computing quantum mechanics, right? Yeah.
There's, there are a lot of, anyway,
makes you think about the avatar
and is that the rock sees more, you know what I mean?
Like how much does a rock actually see
and collect data, you know what I mean?
Um, but interesting subjects.
Morgan, I want to thank you immensely for being here.
I I, I'm so grateful to have cool friends
to talk about cool things.
Um, and yeah, and it's an, it is an incredible opportunity
and I just wanna tell everyone out there on Ascension Works
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Um, it's important, man, what we, where, where we buy from,
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And so a big thank you to Mike for, for putting us on here
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And I just, again, I wanna thank every single one of you
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at this time right now.
It is so important.
It is so big, this incredible transition, uh,
journey that we're on, on this planet and this school.
It's huge. And we are about to blossom in
mental capabilities, emotional, physical,
and spiritual capabilities.
And I just wanna thank every single one
of you guys out there for doing your work
because it is important, your integrity, your love, your
honesty, those things to do when nobody's looking
to do the right things, when nobody's looking.
Because that will 100% change our world when we do the
things when nobody's watching.
So tonight, I wanna say the divine sees honors
and recognize the divine
in each and every single one of you.
I'm.