Once we're excited about to, uh, today's
continued discussion on experience of the mind
and thinking about this, uh, a lot.
So I'm actually real excited to, to dive into this
and get into part two, as it were, of,
of this aspect of the deep dive.
Yeah. Yeah.
This is exciting to get back into this particular archetype
because it's so familiar.
Ooh. And experience of the mind.
Yeah. And poignant. Yeah.
Um, so Nathan, we didn't get
to have you join us in the last one.
Um, maybe I could even get your, your take on what,
what you feel about the, the nature
of experience of the mind.
Is it, is it as obvious as we think it is that
it feels like to become any archetype?
It feels like to become experience is the most obvious,
but I'm not sure if that's even necessarily true.
Yeah. I, I kind of tend to think it, I mean, at least
to me it does seem to be fairly obvious there,
but it just, it more revolves around your thoughts
and your emotions more so than actual actions since it has
to do with the mind there.
So it's, I guess, a little more mental, I guess,
than I typically start to think about it with what
manifests for you in that way?
Um, as in like, what comes your direction?
So it's, I don't have a better explanation right now,
but it does seem like it is kind of more,
Can you guys Say
It again? Yeah.
Time, time absolutely has
to occupy and express as archetypes
that we are diving into and trying to understand right now.
And if experience doesn't express as time,
or if that's not, um, part of the complexity, if you will,
after drawing the veil
and expressing in physical reality, then, then I'm not sure
where else we would find it.
But I think we need to look at both catalyst
and experience as an extension, an expansion
of time itself,
because these are the things that allow this basis
of comparison and judgment and trajectory
and um, sort of like vagary.
Yeah. Yeah. It's like the mirror or the manifestation
or the projection from which all the catalyst experience are
reaching us from the,
the space time continuum and the time space continuum.
I guess there's experiences of space time and time space,
Yes. And I think
that there's archetypal experience
and that we are experiencing perhaps the other, um,
end of that in terms of the polarity, whatever the other end
of experience is or what it's relating to.
I think that through time it flows it down immensely.
And I think that archetypal experience is actually so
powerful and so immensely powerful that it needs
to be slowed down in time
because the implications of it are so vast that time
had to become an aspect of it so that it could be resolved
and ultimately atoned for,
and I mean, this does branch out into some other channel
kind of material, but I think that it's still germane to,
to this conversation as it
pertains to the law of one as well.
So do you think then that like past biases
and past experiences and all that stuff factor into
what you were looking at, I guess, as that experience there,
the way you were interpreting and analyzing it?
So now you guys were kind of touching on that previously,
and I guess to me it does seem like that that is the case
as, as, even if that's more of the significant,
it still does hold impact
or sway on the way you view things in
that experience archetype.
A hundred percent. I think
that time occupies consciousness the same way that or, or as
and expresses through these very same archetypes.
I don't think that it's separate. I don't think
that it's this thing that we happen to also experience.
I think that it's the expression of
and transition of consciousness from third
density into fourth density.
And if you think about the dimensions,
and I know the densities
and dimensions are not necessarily congruent,
and that's a very different conversation.
There's a lot of, you know, where those do
or don't measure up or match up,
but you still do have space time and time space.
You still have this inversely proportionate relationship
between these things.
And I think that yes,
therefore time is folded into our consciousness as well
as experience.
And that archetypically archetypically, uh, prior
to experience in catalyst, we had the matrix,
the potentiator and the significant, right.
And so in a way, um, perhaps archetypal
significant is a form of experience that is
so, um, much, uh,
and powerful
and allowed to change our expression so much.
That time was perhaps instantaneously
folded into its expression
because it needed to be so
that it could do the entire fool's journey all the way
to the very bottom and all the way back to the very top.
Yeah, I, I, I mean, I, I still think of space
and time as just like blank chalkboards,
and then these archetypal expressions, like the logos,
the love, the love of the logos, the second distortion is
deciding what it wants to see on that chalkboard.
And the, the, the, the structure of the chalkboard is
what I, I'm calling space time and time space, basically.
And I'm not sure if it's even possible to think of time
as separate from space, because time is a measurement of
like transformation in space.
Yeah. They can't be separated at all.
They, they have this, this dynamic tension
or this inverse relationship between them
and gravity, you know,
obviously binding them together in, in some way as well.
But, but again, I still feel that the unfoldment
and expansion of consciousness from matrix potentiator
and significant into catalyst experience, transformation,
et cetera, it feels to me resonant
that time was an expression thereof
and not just a, well, this thing happened at one point
and this other thing happened at another,
and the veiling process probably
or something, an archetypal expression of the veil,
because I believe that there are probably various levels of,
of veil, and again, some of
that gets into the kabbalistic teaching as well.
But I think that there are at least as many as six in
that particular teaching veils
and who knows to how many depths raw
and Don really got at that level
because who knows how many veils Don was aware of.
Well, I would like to go off script
and talk about the nature of the, uh, the
before the veil and after the veil.
Uh, just one of the discussions I was just,
I just felt drawn to this, uh, search for this
and might as well go over this now.
Uh, it seems so relevant.
Um, so the question here was about the differences before
and after the veil, uh, on things like sleep, dreams,
physical pain, mental pain, sex
disease, catalyst programming.
He, Eli had a long list here
and relationships, communication with the higher self, um,
or spirit functions before the veil.
It would be significant with
respect to their difference after the veil.
And Ross said, firstly, let us establish that both before
and after the veil, the same conditions
existed in Timespace.
That is the veiling process is a space time phenomenon.
Secondly, the character
of experience was altered drastically by the veiling process
in some cases, such as the dreaming
and the contact with the higher self.
The experience was quantitatively different due to the fact
that the veiling is a primary cause of the value of dreams
and is also the single door against which the higher self
must stand awaiting entry.
So the veiling is the primary door or the single door.
Wow. So, which would be
basically the space time was created then through,
through the veiling is
what they're saying there at that point.
And that was what separated, I guess at that point,
your instant access to the higher self
or instant access to, um, in, in the time space realm
that the third density entities used to have basically
before, before this time point.
Wow. My impression is that when they say the VEing,
it processes a space time phenomenon
that's talking about like the way in which
DNA is affecting the way in which our brain is able
to connect into the deeper aspects of itself.
That's my theory, that they still had brains and space time.
It's just the way that the brains were working was there,
there was a phenomenon in space time itself that was like
creating the door, creating the wall
that was blocking the access. How
About the, the veiling process, meaning I would, can we,
would you agree that space time refers to physical reality?
Anything that is quote unquote physical, we are referring to
as in space time, whereas time space we all understand
to be an inverse and very different, uh, plane more
Similar. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. So if the veiling process is a space time
phenomenon, and I mean, I feel like I had a very,
very real experience of this, uh, recently.
Um, the aspect of the brain that, you know,
exists to perpetuate itself, uh,
and to exist of its own accord
and to separate itself from the law of one
and to exist outside of,
and in ignorance of the law of one, uh, I think
perhaps is programmed at that physical level
and does not have as much the spiritual corollary,
though the law of correspondences would tell us that
as above so below.
And so there has to be some causal factor
at a spiritual level.
But this does seem to say very explicitly that some aspect
of the prevailing process at least
is expressing strictly in physical reality.
Yeah. Well, I'm not sure if as
above, so below necessarily needs to look exactly the same.
If you have a, a desire
to accelerate your evolution on a deeper metaphysical level,
then that may lead towards
experimentation on the physical level.
Good point. And one does support than the other one
is causal to the other.
Mm-Hmm. What session is this by the way? I can't see it.
83, 8 3. Okay. Wow.
I mean, you really did just go right to, uh, to the heart of
that and, and is that not in fact what
this is saying then?
Well, they're saying that the veiling process isn't space
time, but is the inverse also the, the same then to say
that space time is a function of the valent process?
No, I, I think, but, but let, let's keep reading this.
This is okay, this gets fun, right?
Lemme reread this part here.
Secondly, the character
of experience was altered drastically by the valent process.
Um, in some cases such as the dreaming
and the contact with the higher self,
the experience was quantitatively different due to the fact
that the veiling is a primary cause of the value of dreams.
And as a single door against which the higher self must
stand awaiting entry
before veiling dreams were not for the purpose of using the,
so-called unconscious to further utilize catalyst,
but were used to learn,
teach from teach learners within the inter planes, as well
as those of outer origin of higher density.
As you deal with each subject of which you spoke,
you may observe during the prevailing process,
not a quantitative change in the experience,
but a qualitative one.
So the character of dreams was more just like
ringing the telephone to other entities
who normally can only communicate
with you when you're asleep in your dreams
and with the veil.
Um, but in, in this sense, it's more like we have this,
this, this, this access to the communication ability
with the inter planes when there's no veil.
Hmm. And because didn't they say as well, it's like
before the veil too.
It was each entity had awareness that that all was,
was the creator, was the one creator
and everything from that point.
So they weren't progressing basically at that point
because they knew everything was one
and there was no push to actually attempt
to polarize at that point.
So I guess I was just kinda looking at that from
that time space to space time differentiation there.
Um, but I guess, I guess that makes sense
what you're saying, that instead that
I dreaming just had a different effect at
that point in space time,
but they still had an awareness of all
of creation beforehand.
Yep.
You know, it's really interesting in, um, oh,
did you just, uh, oh, oh, did you just change tab?
I was, I was gonna say in session 77, they said in, uh,
in, in this situation with without the veil,
they also said this was, um, acting
in an absence of free will situation, um,
in such a possession of debts.
As you find it extraordinarily long as you measure
third density, likewise fourth density, then
as entities begin to see the creator, there's very rapid,
as you measure time recession towards the eighth density.
This is due to the fact that one who knows, not cares not.
So I I I see it as like less willpower when there's,
when there isn't the veil.
Okay. It's like you realize the oneness there,
but what's the point of progressing at
that point when you already know the end resolver,
you already know that, that everyone's won there.
Why, why do anything else at that point?
I feel like I had an archetypical experience of that
as well, sort of like spiritual fire, even like the, the,
the very heart of the mysteries as we call, is just that,
that aspect of not knowing that drives us all
to know this exact thing.
Alright, go ahead, Mike.
You've talked about your mushrooms
friends enough in the other episodes.
You could just, you could just spit it out in this one too.
Well, it was, it was very much that it was,
it was another sort of, um, kind of episode of amnesia,
if you will, and in a very, you know, real, real sense
of not having biases and not having things to draw on
and having just, um, a very wide-eyed and wondrous sense.
And, um, you do feel like you, you tap into something
that's, that's archetypical in that sense
that you don't have anything to compare it to at all,
and that it is, uh, just about as, as, um,
almost beyond your ability to withstand
as you can imagine, and yet exactly right.
Where as much as you can.
And it's like, that's why it's there for that reason.
But the word experience came to mind that in a way
that even articulating it,
literally saying the word experience was birthing
what that energy was.
And then when the, the idea of time came to mind,
it certainly that, uh, came to mind in a very,
sort of a careful way.
It was like came in and I was immediately suspicious of it,
and I knew immediately what it was there for
and why it was not necessary
and why it was also completely useful.
And all of that came into view at once,
and the veil itself felt like an unfolding.
You could see this corner in your own mind.
And, and it was so present
and I was speaking about it openly, like, you know,
here's this veil that I see this little,
it's like a program, it's like a bug in the system
that was put there specifically with this intention
of being forgotten, of forgetting itself.
And, uh, it's just this really bizarre feeling
to sort of reen unfold that and move into that.
And now have that be sort of where your awareness is.
It's like stepping into this thing that's sort
of been in a shadow.
Yeah. Sounds like a laic big bang experience there in
cr Sorry, creation or something.
That's, that's fascinating.
Uh, it was, it was a lot again, and,
and it was so present with these energies again, like
of experience specifically.
That was a thing that I was, you know, saying that word.
I was just like, you know, this is it.
And then to roll time into it as well
and to realize that it needed it to slow everything down
because the potency, the potency of the energy
that's actually truly available
and truly present is nearly unimaginable.
And reality is,
we experience it is a few shades away from it.
There's a buffer zone between our perception obviously, and,
and what's really there and really present.
And were we to experience it, obviously the vast majority
of us would be drowning in the energies.
Um, but to have a taste of it
and to have experience of it is also very, very invigorating
because it's this perfect reminder
and guiding light of what our true capability
and capacity is in a multidimensional consciousness.
And that's why we need to start thinking of things
as not just third and fourth density, but third
and fourth dimension as we're examining the archetypes
of consciousness that expand across, uh,
all densities and dimensions.
Well, let me reread this one that we read last time.
Um, you may have been thinking of this, the hallmark
of time space is the inequity between time
and space and your space time.
The spatial orientation of material
causes a tangible framework for illusion and time space.
The inequity is upon the shoulders of that property.
No deal is time. This property renders entities
and experiences intangible in a relative sense
and your framework, each particle
or core vibration moves at a velocity which approaches
what you call the speed of light from the direction
of superluminal velocities, meaning it has to slow down
for the nature of our beingness to become manifest
as form in space time.
Uh, and the less that lower the speed
of light superluminal means above the speed of light.
So the, the, the particles from the direction
of the inner planes time space approaching from the speed
of light slowing down.
That, that's fascinating.
Is what you're saying, Micah, is what I'm hearing
that the speed of light is sort of not just what we've been,
uh, told is the, uh, the intergalactic
and cosmic speed limit,
but what you're saying is more, um, more like the thing
that we slowed down to out of a, a,
a much faster vibratory, uh, experience.
Well, it's, it's the wall.
It's possible that you could see speed of light is the,
some kind of wall between space time
and time space that we sort of are, are using
because light is really just the core a aspect
of manifestation of
Of creators, yeah. Of physical
reality. It literally is like,
even though we see it as sort of the fastest thing,
I'm just, I'm sort of tickled by this
because it's really kind of the opposite.
It's sort of just the, the top end of
physical reality really is, is visible light
and faster than that is what our real experience is.
And, and yes, I had an experience that taught me
very, very perfectly
and directly at why time is exactly what it is to
slow that process down.
Because I mean, it is so viscerally
immediate and there is, it's, I timeless.
There is no, you know, linearity to it at all.
And so imagine making eternal, you know, choices
or gravitating toward permanent realities.
Uh, you know, we're, we're fortunately created with,
with mechanisms to prevent our own destruction.
And that's what time is.
Well, we're going down different, uh, tangents.
I guess maybe we could, we could come back.
Well, it is experience, but that's a good point. Yeah,
Go ahead. We could come
back to the, uh, the, well, I guess,
I guess it is good to start back with the image
and get through the image itself, which we weren't able
to finish the discussion around last time.
And, uh, so, 'cause this is really there,
there's a lot more in here that we, we may have not unpacked
yet with the, the nature of experience.
Um, and this is just the experience of the mind
that we're discussing the emperor card.
And we can also touch on the experience of the body today
and maybe experience of the spirit.
I think that a law of one, uh, strongly suggested that the,
the nature of the spirit has more to do
with the movements and time space.
So the experience of the spirit is the, the card,
which is called the moonlight.
And that could be something we, we talk about as the nature
of the subtle nature of, uh,
experience, which has not yet found
the significant, which is the sun.
Um, and they, they definitely put a strong emphasis on
the idea that many people remain groping in the moonlight
and unable to discern the true light of the sun, which is
the significant of spirit where I think there'd be some
more appreciation of the nature of the,
of the light when you get to that point.
Um,
Mike, can you expand on what you just said about lax,
the significant is did that come from a, a session? Yeah,
Well I might as well read that 'cause it's,
it's something I think about a lot.
Yeah, yeah. No, it, it, uh,
grabbed my attention when you said it.
Um, let's see here.
Well, we could read a couple on this.
Um, okay,
so the original question, uh, about, was about the matrix
of the spirit, which is the, the night
of the soul primeval darkness or the devil.
Um, can you tell me why the spirit is called the darkness?
The devil would not wish
to be facile in such a central query,
but we may note that the nature of spirit is
so infinitely subtle, that the crucifying influence
of light upon the great darkness
of the spirit is very often not
as apparent as the darkness itself.
The progress chosen by many ad ups becomes a confused path
as each aup attempts to use catalyst of the spirit,
which is also called faith or hope.
Few there are, which are successful in grasping the light
of the sun, by far the majority
of adepts remain groping in the moonlight,
which is the experience of the spirit.
And as we have said, this light can deceive as well
as uncover hidden mystery.
Therefore, the melody of this, shall we say,
of this matrix often seems to be of a negative
and evil, as you would call it, nature.
And I think it's also worth reading,
um, that they say, um,
you're aware that we have described the
matrix of spirit as a knight.
The moonlight then offers either a true picture seen in
shadow or kymera and falsity.
The power of falsity is deep, as is the power
to discern truth from shadow.
The shadow of hidden things is an infinite depth in which is
stored the power of the one infinite creator.
The adep then is working with the power of hidden things
illuminated by that which can be false or true.
To embrace falsity, to know it, to seek it
and to use it gives the power that is most great.
This is the nature of the power of your visitor
for fifth density negativity they're asking about
and may shed some light upon power of one who seeks in order
to serve others as well.
For the missteps in the night are Oh, so easy.
So, so the, the nature of the experience of the spirit is
that, of trying to discern the true light from the false
light, I guess is another way of saying it.
Um, and
I guess an archetypal expression of, of
a experience of the spirit is turning faith into
a recognition of the, of the true light,
the deepest light within yourself.
And I feel like the, you know,
the time space dimensions may have more to do with
that process than the space time dimensions.
'cause we're talking about the, the deepest spiritual light.
Um,
And Mike, you said that, um, uh, faith
and hope are catalysts of the spirit,
Right?
And, uh, is the potentiate of the spirit, uh,
mentioned in this context?
Um, well, I think it's implicit that the potentiator leads
to the catalyst.
So like the lightning, the lightning is what leads
to the potentials for
the catalyst, which would be the faith. So is
Is the lightning the potentiator or the catalyst?
The potentiator. Oh, it's the potentiator. Okay. Okay.
Yeah. Experience.
The other day my son was picking out a black
color for a car in a game.
I was like, do you really want that black color? Yep.
And then it wasn't even thundering outside,
but then this lightning bolt right.
Very close to our house. My my,
my wife saw it was very close, just right in that instant.
It's, well, it was a trippy universe.
The darkness and the light are very, very much trying to,
to give us some hints.
Wow. Um,
Yeah, it seems like the potential
for deception is great in, in this darkness here.
Like you're saying, if you're looking just
through the moonlight, you can't always see the actual
truth, but that's what you're attempting
to discern when it comes, comes to the spiritual side there.
Uh, but I think it also kind of ties in a little bit
with the purity concept
that you guys were talking about a
little bit last time there as well.
That the further down the path you get
with this more pure intention to, to be of service
and it's,
it illuminates you further, I guess, in that sense.
And you can kind of see through some of
that deception a little bit easier on, on the pure, your,
your will is is to serve.
So it kind of builds on itself. I guess
That's true. And it does say
the power of falsity is deep,
as is the power to discern truth from shadow.
Uh, so I like that they draw a parallel there.
The the following statement, the shadow of hidden things
is an infinite depth in which is stored the power
of the one infinite crater.
I mean, there's a law there stored, you know, by whom
and for what purpose and why is it in shadow
and what exactly is hidden.
It's what is the shadow of something hidden.
The way, the way I see it is like the archetypes
of pure light and pure darkness are one step removed from
the purest understanding of the infinite power
of the one one infinite creator.
So understanding pure darkness, understanding pure light,
understanding pure service to others through that light,
understanding pure service itself through that light.
These are each archetypal aspects of the creator.
And the more we, we are in alignment with the,
the raw essence of that nature
that is stepping into the true
power, I think, of the event creator.
So, so we have a, a game where we have the negative and the,
and the positive seemingly at odds,
but they're also the creator trying
to create express itself.
Like the, the fan peacock's tail,
the more eloquent expression
of the creator will take on the more seeming dark darkness
and the seeming light of infinite light
of the creator expressing.
But one of the ones that Nathan was talking about here I
wanted to touch on, so we can compare the nature of the, the
experience of the spirit with the experience of the mind.
Um, Don had asked, uh, if the experience
of the mind has sufficiently chosen the right hand path,
seeing service to others potential,
as total purity is approached in choosing the right hand
path, then total imperiousness from the effect
of the left hand catalyst is also approached.
Is this correct? Ross says, this is exquisitely perceptive.
The seeker which has purely chosen the service
to others' paths, shall certainly not have a variant
apparent incarnation experience.
There is no outward shelter in your illusion from the gusts,
flurries, and blizzards of quick and cruel catalyst.
However, to the pure all that is encountered speaks
of the love and the light of the one infinite crater.
The cruelest blow is seen with an ambiance
of challenges offered and opportunities to come thusly,
the great pitch of light is held high above such a one so
that all interpretation may be seen
to be protected by light.
And so that's interesting that maybe, maybe that means
that the, the light which, um, is better expressed maybe on,
uh, the card for the redrawn version here.
You could say that this, this spiritual
or is this linkage to the, the nature of the, the experience
of the spirit and the, the lightning is, is stored inside
of this, this ores holding.
Yeah, I totally agree
because I was gonna say earlier that it offsets, um,
I had sort of, again in this re um, uh,
capitulation or, uh, you know, parallel between
experience and time.
I think that's why the archetype is pointed to the left
and why there's a predisposition to catalyst that is
of the negative polarity,
because that's what the expression of space
and time is like we were talking about earlier, Mike,
to your point, that if you decide
that you want a different type of a lesson,
then physical manifestation may express very,
very differently and in a very separate way.
And there's this sort of inverse relationship,
which is why I think we see more parallels between the mind
and body complexes than we do with the spirit.
And I think it's because the spirit tends to have this sort
of inverse sort of experience or,
or expression, um, based on the, you know, the total
whack, you know, insane notion of separation
that predicates the expression of the rest of the complexes.
Right. It's perhaps more, more of a pure representation of
what these aspects of the creator are.
Yeah. And I think that because this exists as
an expression in space time, that's why it's predisposed
to negative catalyst
because that's what space time is, is the expression of,
uh, of negative polarity choice and expression.
Yeah. It's very high contrast between the white
and the black and, and these images.
And, and you can tell it's much more left up
to the interpretation of the observer, what might be meant
by the pointed foot
and all these other details which we'll
get into hopefully soon here. Um, you
Know, the equal contrast reminds me of the, um,
equal opportunity given to positive and negative polarity
and telepathic outreach to earth.
It almost seems like this sort of like even playing field.
Yeah. Yep.
That was discussed a few points in the law of one, the,
the beaming of love and light without any conditions, just
the positive beams are just beaming us love and light,
and the negative beings are trying to beam us
with suggestions to get the, to get us
to follow their philosophy
or agree with their philosophy of hierarchies
of control and that kind of thing.
Yeah. Organizing themselves a little bit more.
'cause that's also, I think kind of, maybe it was close
to one of those quotes you were looking at there, Mike,
with Carla talking about her purity of love,
that she's able to greet that negative fifth density entity
with that is then basically negating its attack
or its attempt to attack
or control her, which is to extinguish her light,
how they increase their purity at that point
or increase their light, um, on, on the negative path.
But it can be canceled out or,
or negated at that point too, if once you get
to a certain level of purity in seeking.
Right, Right.
So I would like to jump back a step to session 78
and reread what was initially said about this archetype.
Um, it's 36. Um, wait a minute.
Maybe maybe we could start here.
Uh, I went to the wrong one,
but this was what they said about the catalyst.
And it's interesting that the catalyst of the, of the spirit
was called the, the empress.
So there was a nobility applied, um, in the female sense
with the, the beginning of what leads
to experience with the catalyst.
And I just gotta make sure
I got the right one pulled up here.
And then, so they said, um,
the, the catalyst takes in far more than display meditation,
however, it is certainly through this faculty that catalyst
through meditation, this faculty of meditation
that catalyst has most efficiently used.
The archetype three is perhaps confusingly called empress,
although the intention of misnomer is the understanding
that it represents the unconscious
or female portion of the mind complex being first,
shall we say, used or nod by the male
or conscious portion of the mind, thus the noble name.
And then, so the, the male aspect is the,
the using of that with consciousness
and leading to the male aspect,
which is the experience of that catalyst.
And I'm gonna pull up that and have it pulled up. Um,
So it's like the thoughts, feelings, emotions or,
or things that come up from the potentiated mind
as catalyst presenting an opportunity
to be used or explored.
Then as the experience, um, goes to analyze these mental,
uh, mental thoughts coming through,
feelings, emotions, all of those,
Right?
Yep. The fourth archetype is called the emperor seems
to have to do with the experience of other selves
and the greenery energy center with respect to other selves.
And this is something we discussed last time, might be
not necessary to focus on the green ray here,
but Ross says this is perceptive.
The broad name for archetype four may be the experience
of the mind and the tro, you find the name emperor.
Again, this implies nobility.
And in this case we see suggestion that it is only
through the catalyst which has been processed
by the potentiated consciousness that experienced may ensue,
thusly is the conscious mind ennobled by the vast resources
of the unconscious mind.
So that word ennobled probably
is worth looking up
and talking about even, um, ennobled means
to lend greater dignity
or nobility of character to, uh, it comes from
a nobler expressing a change of state.
Oh, that's, that's the French, I guess.
So it's almost like to improve the perception of
Yeah.
As a, as a verb, right? Yeah.
Yep. The conscious mind is
given a noble rank, or no, that's the, yeah.
A noble is to give a noble ranker title to raise
to the nobility peerage to make, create someone a noble.
So the conscious mind is made more noble
or perceived to be more noble,
Greater dignity Through the resources
of the unconscious mind.
Yeah. I guess that that would imply it's like less random.
It doesn't, certainly the nobility of what's passing
through our minds suggests that we have it, it, um,
like I, well, maybe it has to do
with something as in focus too.
If, if you're not focused on something
or if it's a random background noise in the mind,
it hasn't been brought fully into the archetypal experience.
Yeah. It's, it sort of has to be this way.
Maybe we're sort of overcomplicating this a little bit
because without the vast resources of the unconscious mind,
there's really nothing new.
Right. There's nothing new
and potential to, for the conscious mind to go entertain.
So really it's the, it's the line
before that, that's probably a little bit
more, uh, important.
Yeah. Catalyst that has been processed
by the potentiated consciousness that experienced me ensue
and potentiated here seems to mean
strengthened in some way too, given more potential
Indeed. But that would also
now give you matrix
potentiator catalyst and experience.
That's four archetypes in one sentence, right.
That it, they sort of put in a linear fashion, right?
Yeah. Going through the whole cycle basically all in,
in one sentence there, how one leads to the next, I guess.
Yeah. So,
and they summarize it though in saying
that thusly is the conscious mind ennoble.
So the purpose of the catalyst
and the experience even that ensues from the catalyst
that comes from the potentiated consciousness is all about
ennobling the conscious mind.
And so ultimately the matrix
and the magician seem to be still paramount in terms
of, you know, what the alchemist
or the adapt is ultimately, uh, pursuing.
Yeah. And I would humbly suggest transforming
perhaps, which we haven't gotten to transformation
and I really look forward to that as well, um,
for all the same reasons.
Yep. And perhaps we could jump in with
that in mind to session 94, which we spent a lot
of time on last time, but did not get
Nathan's take, so he couldn't make it.
And also we're sorry that Nick couldn't make it this time.
Um, there's a sickness issue, this family, that
interesting catalyst that we explore
with different per different groupings here of our energy.
Exactly. It's, it's polarity too, you know,
balance been times that I've missed.
Mike, I don't know if you've ever missed one, but
I'll, I'll allow it someday.
We should do it once actually, just to see
what it's like, you know?
Yeah. I mean, yeah,
the collective
consciousness is always a little bit different.
It would be pretty interesting to, to have the other three
of us without we'd all miss you.
That's a foregone conclusion, but okay. Continue.
So this question was about the, if the crossed legs of
the guy sitting here, the crossed legs have a meeting
similar to the cross of the crooks on Santa.
Is this correct? And maybe
before we do this, we'll do 93 24 to get, to get
that discussion of the crux on sata in mind, in mind again,
which was in Don's mind obviously as well.
Um, so 93, 24 was a discussion, uh, about the significance
of the shape of the crux on sata.
And maybe I'll just put that in Google so we can see clearly
we're talking about this symbol here, donk.
Yeah. It's basically a cross,
but with the top vertical part is like a loop
then instead or a circle.
Yeah, yeah.
And ancient Egyptian hi graphic symbol used
to represent the word for life
and by extension is a symbol of life itself.
Isn't that interesting that, that predates,
does it predate, do you think crucifixion broadly
or, uh, only the sort of Christian crucifixion.
I don't know when crucifixion itself,
Pretty sure it predates Jesus. Yeah.
Well, Jesus definitely.
But I mean crucifixion more generally just was that a thing?
I mean, I obviously it was a thing
before Jesus, they didn't invent the cross for him,
but I don't know how, how much before him it did exist.
I could ask the, the, the chat GPT and see what they say.
We all know him. The gnostic pt.
I
Don't know if this is easy to even know.
This is such a weird, um,
I do find it kind of interesting though.
I know that this comes down to symbology,
but this also sort of can get into Ria
and some other like sort of fundamental kind
of core energy and symbolism. All right. What'd you find
Fiction as a method of execution using
across as much later in history? So
How to predates predates it then?
Yeah, by far. Yeah, By far. Okay.
So I kind of look at that as maybe then perhaps related
to the equal arm cross as well, which again is another sort
of primordial, uh, symbol showing the outward
nature of fourth density, you know, heart chakra
consciousness in this reality.
Alright, so the question was about the significance
of the shape, and if that's too much of an answer.
Oh yeah, this is just not related.
Um, so Ross said there are mathematical ratios
within this image, which may yield informative insights
to one fond of riddles.
So I'm not at that point in my study yet,
but maybe someday we'll start measuring these, these ratios.
Um, we shall not untangle the riddle.
We may indicate that the crux on sata is part of the concept
of complexes of the archetypical mind,
the circle indicating the magic of the spirit
and the cross indicating the nature of manifestation,
which may only be valued by the losing.
So you could say it's the magic
of the spirit versus the non-ag of bodily manifestation
dying, coming back to life, dying. I don't know.
Um, uh, I don't want to draw an immediate parallel
with the, um, the session that you'd mentioned in the, uh,
study guide, uh, which was from last time.
And that I think you mentioned that Elizabeth
had one to throw out.
Yep. Um, is that,
Well, let's finish reading this and then talk about it.
Yeah, yeah, Yeah. So
The price, sorry, the price
to pay, you know where I'm going with that? Go ahead.
Yep. The circle indicating the magic of the spirit,
the cross indicating the nature of manifestation,
which may only be valued by the losing.
Thus the crux on Sada is intended to be seen as an image
of the eternal in and through manifestation
and beyond manifestation through the sacrifice
and transformation of that which is manifest.
So I guess the way I was kind of reading that too,
I was thinking of the interpretation of that circle, kind
of indicating then the infinite,
which is then the spirit at that point.
And the straight line going down at
that point is us coming down from the
infinite to the finite.
Then on your way back up, then you have that horizontal line
that you need to cross, which is that threshold basically of
where you need to, um, do that losing,
that they talk about there to get back into the infinite
or became, entertain that higher level
Of it's sort of like releasing Yeah.
Leasing what it was that was accrued in
that journey downward. Okay. Exactly.
Through your Experiences there.
So yeah, it's, I kind
of was looking at some of that there as well too.
The Yeah, that like
The Horizontal line.
Yeah. Yeah. It does kind of make me curious as
to the ratios, but we also don't know, oh,
I guess this is the, was it the writer weight deck,
Mike, that they were looking at?
No, they were using a much better version that was older
and probably
Acquired the sata.
Well, the crux on Saada itself, you know,
is all over Egyptian architecture. And
Is it always represented with the exact same sort
of mathematical ratios?
It seemed amazingly close from if you look at pictures.
Okay. So has, um, has someone like
Dr. Michael J. Gilbert
or, um, I don't know, like any
of these other metaphysicist broke down the, the math
and the ratios associated with it?
I don't know yet. I haven't looked into that,
but here you see there's some examples of drawings.
Uh, it's not always the consistent,
but there's obviously some consistency to the fact
that it gets narrower in the center.
There's one more thing I would go ahead
and throw on just for this quick, uh,
excursion under the crooks on Sada is
that in Egyptian hieroglyphs often, uh,
shown being carried.
And that was sort of a, um, uh,
analogous to a Sumerian depiction, uh,
where their higher gloves were holding sort of a handbag.
Um, interestingly, um, maybe in similar context,
uh, but it looked basically identical.
They have this thing that they're carrying,
but the Sumerian gods, uh, like, uh, anky
and Enli are carrying what looks like a little pocketbook,
and the Egyptian gods are carrying the crooks onda.
Well, yep. This is a puzzle for us for later.
I did like Nathan's breakdown of that though, in terms
of like the journey down and then the route back up
and you sort of release, you know, that aspect,
that physical manifestation.
That's the sacrifice, that's the losing.
And maybe that, uh, is a good segue.
I don't know, Mike, it's up to you on the price.
Uh, 'cause I know that had come up last time.
Yeah, yeah.
So, um, yeah, this is
intended to be seen as an image of the eternal in
and through manifestation
and beyond manifestation through the sacrifice
and transformation of that which is manifest.
So the eternal is obviously represented by bodies that die
because the bodies are reborn
and the particles don't really go away.
Um, but anyway, this is, I, I feel,
I feel like this also touches on the nature transformation
that we'll touch on later, but there's really nothing
that is not something we could see as representing
the infinite and the eternal coming into our
reality and manifesting.
And we, the more we see it as the, as the eternal
and infinite, maybe that's the process of transformation
of the spirit that they talked about.
But, um, we'll touch on that another time.
And then, so getting back to,
and I love that my wife Elizabeth just sat down next to me
and I'm about to reference what we were talking about here.
Mm-Hmm. Um, so yeah, she had referenced
after we talked about 94, well read 94, uh, uh,
24 here.
Um, no, it was 9 4 20, 26. Yep.
Um, so the cross formed by the living limbs
of the image signifies that which is the nature
of mind body spare complexes,
a manifestation within your illusion.
There is no experience, which, which is not purchased
by effort of some kind, no act of service
to self or others, which is not their price
to the entity manifesting commensurate with its purity.
All things in manifestation may seem, may be seen in one way
or another to be offering themselves in order
that transformations may take place upon the level
appropriate to the action.
So this is what we were trying to untangle last time, uh,
these three sentences, two sentences. Um, yeah,
It's definitely a loaded one there.
It seems like it's, the initial point that kind of jumps out
to me is it seems to be related to, uh, karmic implications,
I guess to, to a lot of, uh, the ways that you,
you perform service and stuff at that point.
But it seems the one
that we've been talking about a lot already,
but the point that keeps jumping to me is, is
that purity concept there as well too.
So I think that's also equivalent to like your intentions.
So the more pure your intention is to be of service there,
maybe the less karmic backlash that you necessarily get, um,
from that action of being of service as you get closer to
being with the infinite or, um, to the spirit there.
That's a great point. I think karma might be implicit in
what we're seeing here
because it says commensurate with the purity not
of the being but of the act.
Right? The act of service itself is,
is wherein lies the purity.
And so the pure of the act, the less the karmic implications
or perhaps even the release of karmic debt.
Right, exactly. And I guess it also kind of ties into
with maybe past, um, preincarnated sort of programmed ideas
and stuff too that you maybe don't see coming,
but it also is directly related, like you're saying.
What we're getting at there is to yeah, the purity
of the act or the will to be of, of service at
that point or at that time.
Yeah. I suppose you could consider even darkness,
the release of darkness at cost.
Um, I received the light at the cost of the darkness. Right.
That's, I mean, that's, that's a thing.
And, and I think that's sort of perhaps maybe
what they're implying here as well is
that this can go both ways.
Yeah. And I think in, in another point too,
that Ross starts talking about then, uh, purity equal
to like a light at that point.
So, uh, the more pure you are, the brighter light
that shines, so you end up attracting
then the opposite as well.
So you end up, um, attracting more
of a negative, I guess, presence at that point.
But when you're at that higher pure level, it,
it doesn't bother you at that point
because you're seeing things through the all is one, um,
sort of lens I guess of things where
as maybe when you're starting on that transition more,
it could be much more pulled down
and that light can be put out
and, um, I guess given
to the negative at that, at that time, right?
It would strike you exactly the same as it would've,
you know, at a lower level, you know,
that was commensurate down here.
So now you can take something that, you know, might, might
relative to the other thing, feel or be a lot darker,
but to where you're at, you're like, yeah, that's, you know,
that's just people being people,
you know, that's a human condition.
Right. You know? Exactly.
This is challenging.
I, I mean, I I'm still challenging with the challenge
with the idea that the, the purity of the, of the action
is the degree of the price and not the inverse of it.
But, um, well the,
But the price might be the, um, like I said,
it could also be the shadow.
I mean, it's costing you the
shadow or the darkness, right, right.
If you are releasing karma.
Yeah. And so I suppose the ultimate release is
reabsorption into the one, and you're releasing the
entire world in that sense.
You're releasing the, all the illusions in the,
in the highest release of, of the,
or it could be the highest act of service too, to,
to release all illusion and
Yeah. So really the cost,
the price even in that case really,
if you think about it, is the ego itself if you are to go
to the greatest extent to service to others.
Yeah. And, and to quote unquote sacrifice,
what you're really sacrificing is the ego
itself, which is Yeah.
Which is the illusory self. Right, right.
It doesn't exist anyway, and you're really just finally
accepting that, that it was, yeah.
It was all its own illusion. Yeah.
And I, I can't not help
but think a little bit about the idea of, they said
that Jesus, the cross could represent the perfect sacrifice,
and the perfect sacrifice in that sense is sacrificing of
the bodily self, while also sacrificing all
illusions of separation.
And they said Jesus on the cross released the,
basically the lack of forgiveness
of having killed a kid when he was young, accidentally.
And then when he said, father,
forgive them, they know not what they do.
And this is literally quoted in the law of one,
it's incredible that
so many channels will say Jesus was not on the cross.
Um, um,
but that's literally, um, one powerful symbol that seems
To be, wait, can you ex can you
say what you just said again
Here? Let's read it.
When, when Jesus had become able to integrate
or synthesize all experiences, the entity began to speak
to other selves and, and teach, learn what it had felt
during the proceeding years to be of a worthwhile nature.
The entity was absolved karmically.
So it gave up the ego completely.
Uh, the entity was absolved karmically of the destruction
of another self when it was in its last portion of lifetime,
and spoke upon what you would call across saying, father,
forgive them, but they know not what they do.
And forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel
of action or what you call karma.
So this feels like the ultimate, where did, oh, go ahead.
Where did you get the e ego?
Sorry, you just said you gave up the ego.
Where does it say that exactly?
The ego. It doesn't, but we were talking about ego
and the, the release,
and you could say, if there's a, they refer the ego as a,
a yellow ray blockage.
So if there was a blockage in Jesus association
with other selves, that would've been it. Um,
Yes. So the
destruction of the other self was his last bastion
of guilt effectively.
Right, right. And yes, I would say that the ego is,
is constructed of guilt.
Right. Yep. Okay. Yep, that makes sense.
So, so it's a fascinating, uh, symbol to,
to release yourself while in the process of dying
to release yourself of all that.
Um, but it's like that was his life's purpose, I guess.
Um, and it was seen
as a sacrifice, but he may have been an ecstasy at the time.
I don't know. People have said that.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The, the sacrifice, God is a, as a, as a kabbalistic notion,
that lives right there in Christ's consciousness as well.
But the sacrifice literally just is the moment to the next.
You know, it's just all behold I make all things new, right?
Everything is constantly being
sacrificed to the next moment.
So, you know,
the words become a little bit different when we get
to these archetypal levels.
When we think of sacrifice at an egoic level, we think of
what we're giving up and what we're lacking and all of that.
But when we think of costs
and things like that, these can exist at an archetypal level
that don't have necessarily the negative connotations
that we otherwise ascribe them.
Yep. So this might be worthwhile, and
unless I spoke over what something you wanted to say Nathan,
but, um, jumping into 64 20.
Yeah, go ahead. This was interesting.
Okay, so, um, this is possibly not related,
but it's interesting enough, I thought it's worth sharing.
Um, and the healing exercises was question
the healing exercises.
When you say examine the sensations of the body,
do you mean those sensations available
to the body via the five senses
or in relation to the natural functions of the body, such as
touching love and loving sexual energy in company,
or you're speaking of something else altogether?
So this was something at session five, they recommended
to analyze the sensations of the body, and,
and then rah gives the example,
the questioner may perceive its body complex.
At this moment it is experiencing sensations.
Most of these sensations,
or in this case, nearly all of them are transient
and without interest, he doesn't really think about
what his body's experiencing.
When he is talking to raw, he's very absorbed
and experience of the mind.
However, the body is the creature of the mind.
Certain sensations carry importance due to the charge
or power, which is felt by the mind
upon the experience of the sensation.
For instance, at this space time nexus,
one sensation is carrying a powerful
charge and may be examined.
This is a sensation of
what you call the distortion towards discomfort due
to the cramped position of the body complex, this working.
I wonder if she shifted his legs when he heard that
In balancing, you would then explore the sensation.
So, so if, if ro, if Don were to balance his sensation of,
uh, discomfort and his cramped position he's sitting in,
he would explore, what is this?
Like, what would the opposite of this be?
Why is this sensation powerful is another question
that you would ask in the balancing, I guess
because it was chosen in order that the entity might be
of service to others and energizing this contact,
each sensation that leaves the aftertaste
of meaning upon the mind
that leaves the taste within the memory shall be examined.
These are the sensations of which we speak.
So it would seem as though there's, uh, a kind
of sacrifice being discussed here,
because there is a symbol of the body choosing
to make a sacrifice of being un slightly uncomfortable
with its legs and that slight discomfort, it's not really
that uncomfortable that he won't do it.
It's just uncomfortable enough that it leaves this,
this aftertaste
and the, the, the, this action is associated
with the sacrifice, which is clearly, um, bring a great deal
of benefit to us through
that pur that purity of that choice.
It's not the body's choice though, wouldn't you think?
It's more, well, wait, I'm sorry. There's only one choice.
There's no choice of the body.
There's, that's the 22nd archetype.
So his choice to sustain the sensation, right,
The choice is to have that particular combination of mind,
body, spirit experiences, I suppose.
Yeah. Um, and to the extent that the charge
or power, so like how painful it is perhaps to him.
Um,
But I'm not sure if this is relevant
because this is also relating to the balancing.
So in a sense, if he were to be fully balanced,
he might not be at all bothered by that, that
that discomfort he might be fully in, in ecstasy,
that this is, or I guess full feeling, fully loving, knowing
that this is what he has to do.
I don't know.
So how do you tie that in there with, with their
sentence talking about, so the entity might be of service
to others and energizing this contact, is that through
that motion, or
how does, I'm a little confused on that part.
Well, the question was why is this sensation powerful?
Um, but I'm not sure if that was,
maybe I should reread this part here.
The body is the creature of the mind.
Certain sensations carry importance due to the charge
or power, which is felt by the mind
upon the experience of the sensation.
So I guess it's the importance that relates to the charge
or power on those feelings.
And that importance is related to the choice of being
of service to others through energizing the contact
by being in that cramped position.
So like you are sacrificing the discomfort
that he's experiencing in
that sitting position to, to be of service.
So that's like the, um, I guess what you're saying,
like the almost negative side to that, that is balancing it,
is, is that what, what
You're saying? It's like
optimizing your karmic release, really.
Like, okay. If you think about it, like, okay,
so I like re you know, skim this, it's like you go
through this because you do this, you know, time after time,
after time, they did these sessions over and over
and over again, and they followed all the protocols
and they did all the things and what they're saying is
that going in almost like the exercises in polarity and,
and pushing yourself to the extremes is saying really feel
that like go in and,
and feel like if you were experiencing
discomfort, because guess what?
You chose that discomfort so that you could do this thing
and be in service to others.
So you might as well really maximize the experience
of, of the expression of that discomfort
because therein lies some of your salvation
and some of your karmic release.
Yeah. Yeah.
And the actual healing exercise was to, um,
uh, know your body well.
This is a matter of using the mind to examine
how the feelings, the biases,
what you would call the emotions,
affect various portions of the body complex.
It shall be necessary to both understand the bodily
polarities and to accept them.
So perhaps he wasn't accepting enough of himself in that
and his body in that position.
Um, understand the bodily polarities
and accept them repeating in a chemical physical
manifestation, the work you've done upon the mind.
Be thinking consciousness, which referred to
and examining the opposite sensation, the opposite emotion
and the opposite charge.
And then app. And then seeing both in balance,
Meaning to move your legs into a more comfortable position
and to fully appreciate how comfortable you can be
Yeah. Sitting
in a different position.
Appreciate that the comfort will come,
but that's not the reason that,
that you're experiencing the uncomfort.
But I guess having both in mind makes them not, um,
be hard to accept, I guess.
Balances it almost. Yeah.
Yeah. Body is
a creature of the mind's creation.
It has its biases. The biological bias must be first
completely understood, and then the opposite bias
allowed to find full expression.
And understanding again, the process of acceptance
of the body as a balanced, as well
as polarized individual may then be accomplished.
Alright. That was an interesting detour
to discuss nature of sacrifice.
Worthwhile, though. I think that's a good point.
I think that definitely does tie in with
what we're looking at here in 9 4 26.
Yep. That's, thanks to Elizabeth, my wife.
Um, all things of manifestation may be seen to, in one way
or another, to be offering themselves in order
that transformations may take place upon the level
of appropriate to the action.
Duly noted. Um,
transformations, and you guys know that I brought this up
before when I was like, oh, transformation.
That's an archetype. What exactly is,
you know, transforming?
And maybe it's the mind, body
and spirit, you know, as a complex
and maybe you're transforming the whole relationship
across all the archetypes.
But, um, here we go with him saying, order
that transformations may take place now upon they say a
level appropriate to the action.
So an action could be seen to happen at the level
of a chakra, for example, could be an expression of,
of an energy center.
And that might be where the transformation happens
based on where the action is.
I wonder if when they say all things in manifestation,
they're more focusing on space time. The time space here.
Yes. I, that's how I would see that too. Yep.
Yeah. I guess I could relate
to like energy centers like
you're saying there, Andrew as well.
'cause I was thinking almost it's like you're being
presented with an opportunity, say
to be more accepting towards something that bothers you
or maybe irritates you in, in this manifestation there.
Um, but depending on the level that you take
to actually work through that
or accept it, there will be the level
of what'll bother you again next time or not.
It'll, it kind of relates to it then in that sense.
Perfect. You look at it like a solar plexus,
let's say you're at, in a work environment
and you're encountering other people,
and typically you find resistance or conflict or friction
or something, you know, around this person
or this situation or whatever it is.
And you find a, a new way of seeing it
and accepting it, seeing the truth in them, accepting them,
assuming what they are, and the transformation that
therefore may then take place at the solar plexus level,
which is that shocker, that's governing, you know,
our relationship as it pertains to our community and, um,
and our power, you know, in these sort of, uh,
communal dynamics.
Yeah, Yeah,
Yeah. It's exciting to
think about how every single thing
that we're experiencing is offering itself,
that we may be transformed.
Right. Anything that we can perceive literally is, is
that opportunity right there. Yeah.
You're, every single moment
to moment you are presented here with, with that choice.
And it's, you know, it's almost overwhelming at first
to think about it, but it's also kind of, kind
of beautiful in another sense as well,
that you constantly have this opportunity to make
that choice or to look at things differently, I guess.
Yeah. And somehow it all relates
To that all mirrors, you know, we all exist as this bunch
of mirrors that we're just seeing a reflection
of ourselves everywhere and choosing new
paths to see it again.
Right.
And so this is all, was all a question about
the crossed legs.
So the one leg down, one leg all over, uh,
perpendicular crossing
over somehow.
That is, that is all speaking of this nature
of manifestation being transformed.
Oh, I, I guess I'd kind of go back to that initial crux
and sata sort of deal we were talking about there
as well too with kind of going back up that maybe straight
and narrow path, working through all
of the different distortions to be able to actually make
that, um, jump where you lose some of that negative, um,
I guess karma and other things holding you down to be able
to actually connect with the infinite
or connect with the creator at that point,
which would maybe be symbolized there by the, um, the bird
with the spread wings in, in the experience in mind,
archetype on, on the, on the guy's chest there.
So activating your spirit.
Mm-Hmm. Yeah.
And that was also in the redrawn one with
slightly expanded wings.
Would you say that that's in between sort of
where you would put the, the, um,
solar plexus and hard chakras?
I curiosity
Looks like it to me.
Um, I, i, I could certainly see why that would be,
you know, really useful actually,
because, you know, as raw tells us,
we're literally in this transition
between third to fourth density.
And so to, to see that the expression
of the spirit is a bridge between ego at consciousness
and, you know, evolution into, uh, fourth density is,
you know, I could certainly see that being resonant
or that might also be the kind of thing that raw might go,
yeah, that wasn't intended,
but you know, it certainly will accept it
Almost looks like a rainbow top of it.
Oh, love it.
3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 1, 2, 3, 7, 7
colors in that rainbow.
Yeah. Would That have any tie into what,
what Don was asking in that one question there,
where he was trying to tie the green ray into
the experience of mind?
I forgot what the context was, but green ray green.
Yeah. I don't
mean to make you search for it there.
I just, I was thinking about it
as you were talking about that, Andrew.
Yeah. And Ra said that he was perceptive.
Oh, there it is right there.
Actually, I didn't directly say no, I
Don't think 37. Yeah,
emperor.
Yeah. They didn't directly address the green ray aspect
of it, and we were speculating about
that in the last conversation,
why the green ray may have been relevant.
We did say other selves,
and I would say that the green ray is, um, sort
of the expanded experience of other selves, right?
Like the egoic yellow ray is control
and manipulation of other selves.
And green ray is, you know, symbiosis.
And I think that, So it's, oh, sorry, just to,
to I guess expand on that then
therefore experience, um,
maybe is really germane and relevant to, to that
because this, the rhythm is the law
of the universe associated with, uh, the heart chakra
and going it back to experience and time
and again, rhythm cause
and effect is the solar plexus, uh, chakra.
So both of these have this sort of unfolding into time,
I think, uh, energy
and it makes sense that to me that that's kind
of green ray centered
because that's the equal arm cross also.
And I think the core
of the crooks on Sada in any cross really, I think that the,
the lateral bar is what, um,
represents physical, uh, reality.
Yeah,
I think my original thought was that the,
a purified archetypal experience is one which is, um,
sort of maximally activated across all the chakras.
So the most purified channel
of the one infinite creator expressing all the archetypes,
most purely is one that has all the chakras activated.
And you would need that green ray imbalance to be, to be
of service, um, as the emperor,
I guess, in that, in that sense of becoming the archetype.
That makes sense, Huh.
You know, it does kind of make me wonder what properly
balanced activation at yellow ray
working alongside properly balanced activation at Green Ray
is because in some ways they almost seem antithetical,
and yet I guess that's
because the, the fully activated yellow ray, um,
is the full egoic consciousness
and is rather antithetical to heart-centered expression.
But it's like, I wonder what both
of them operating in full balanced, you know,
activation together look like
There's only four references
to the word ego and the entire material.
Can you believe it
Really shut it down pretty quick, right?
Yeah. The third blockage, the, the,
the third blockage represents
or resembles most closely that which you have called ego.
It is the yellow rail. Solar plexus center
blockages in the center will often manifest
as distortions towards power manipulation
and the other social behaviors concerning those close
and those associated with the mind, body, spirit complex.
But the yellow ray is what they say is seeing in terms
of social relations.
So there still has to be, uh, appreciation of the nature
of social relations and seeing in those
terms has to be mastered.
In order to be able to be effective as a servant
or healer in service to others, you have to have some degree
of mastery over the, the life as a social being.
I can kind of see that because as a social,
being at a yellow ray center, you could see sort of, um,
balance as being what you're shooting for
and sort of, kind of general overall fairness would be a,
a good proper, you know, fully activated yellow center.
That's not overactivated where the ego's trying
to control and manipulate.
It's just something that sort of shoots for fairness.
Whereas going to green, dare I say,
might be the only thing that allows you
to even entertain the concept of sacrifice,
where now you are, you're not only, uh,
finding a willingness to benefit others,
just actively go out of your way to benefit others.
You may even do so at your own cost.
I don't think that's possible at, at the yellow ray,
I guess is what I'm getting at.
Yeah. Well, let's, uh, let's continue with,
uh, 95.
We got onto 95 again.
So yeah, we, this was what we hadn't gotten to last time,
uh, except we briefly touched on a couple of these,
um, about the skirt.
Um, in card four in the last session, we spoke
of the shape of the skirt, and it has occurred to us
that the skirt of the entity we're talking about this
thing here, the skirt
of the entity is extended, um,
extended to the left to indicate
that other selves would not be able
to get close to this entity.
If it had chosen the left hand path,
there would be a greater separation between it
and other selves, whereas if it had chosen the right hand
path, there would be much less of a separation.
Would raw comment on that observation
or I said the student is perceptive without more detail?
We can presume that's close to accurate,
Probably close to correct, as they say on some of 'em.
Yep. So this is the experience
of closeness and separation is as kind
of a pointed skirt pushing people away.
Um, it seems that the square is number 22 now.
It seems that the square upon which entity sits,
which is almost totally black,
is representation of the material illusion.
And the white cat is guarding the right hand path,
which is now separated,
an experienced from the left would raw comment on
that observation and raw says, oh, student,
your site almost sees that which was intended.
However, the polarities need no guardians. What then?
Oh, student needs the guard.
So the cat is the symbol of the protection
and the guarding. Um,
What it's, it's almost, oh, sorry, go ahead. No, you
Go ahead.
I was gonna say, it's like, so it's you,
you have a house cat here who, you know, has,
has great eyesight, who can kind of see through maybe some
of the distortions and, um, have some of those,
but it's not like a lion there that is ready to attack
or anything, it's just the cat.
So it's almost the level of being able to see,
I guess was the way I was kind of looking at that
by the symbol of the cat
and how that maybe compares to some other larger animals
that are maybe a little more dangerous in that sense.
But it's just you're having that ability to,
to perceive differently and be aware of
that negative catalyst coming in and be able to use it then.
Yeah. Um,
and they, they go, they go into it a little
bit further here in the next one.
Um, what I meant to say was
that the entity is guarded along the right hand path once it
is chosen from effects of the material illusion that are
of a negative polarity would rock comment on that.
And Ross says, this is an accurate perception
of our intent of student.
We may note that the great cat guards
and direct proportion to the purity of the manifestations
of intention and the purity of inner work
done along this path. And then, okay,
So what Rob was pointing out was that it was not point,
it was not protecting the, the polarity.
It was protecting the, the adapt on that, on
that path, because they said above that,
his first assertion was that it's, it's protecting
the right hand path.
And they're saying, well close,
but no, it's not guarding the path.
It's, you know, polarity doesn't need
being, you know, guarded.
It's, it's you. Right,
Right.
It's guarding the entity with how far
or how much purity
that they are willing to see and serve with.
Yeah. And, and if we could say it's,
it's guarding the interpretation
when we look at the next one too.
Um, when they say all that is to the pure, all
that is encountered speaks of the love
and light of one infinite creator, the cruelest blow is seen
with an ambiance of challenges offered
and opportunities, opportunities to come.
So all interpretation is seen to be protected by light.
Hmm. I love that, man,
that is amazing if you think about it.
Yeah. That, that light is more impactful
to perception and interpretation.
It's not changing circumstances,
it's just changing your view of it.
Yeah. When you think about a person who's in total fear,
it's like, it's just total darkness.
There's no clarity of perception about the, the true nature
of what, what that experience could be and is coming from.
There's just Yeah. Stinks.
Uh, the darkness, which has no light to guide it, to,
to guide the, the perceptions
and the interpretations of the experiences.
And I assume that's kind of what happens with, uh,
certain people who go into heavy amounts
of schizophrenia or paranoia.
It's just like they have no light on their
interpretations of the experiences.
Yeah. Yeah.
And it's like, it also, that's maybe the,
what they're talking about, the purity is like the direct
proportion to how you are viewing those things.
If you're constantly looking at everything that comes to you
as negative, oh my gosh, I can't believe this keeps
happening to me, like this victim mindset.
It's so easy to be consumed by that
and to constantly see everything that way.
Where as you start looking at things as, um, maybe more
so say opportunities for a chance to be of service
or a chance to look at things differently,
that light then is there to guide you
and to strengthen that approach each time you make
that decision, uh, to view things differently.
Yeah. It's interesting that the, uh, idea
of victimhood is basically like neither purity, purity
of service to others or purity of service to self.
Because even a service
to self entity would take an experience
and say, I'm going to profit from this,
or try to take advantage of the situation or defend myself.
And the victim mentality is just sticking you back on the
ground with no, nothing to work with really, in terms
of finding ways to serve self or others.
I would agree with you when it comes to action, though,
I would, I would humbly disagree when it comes to narrative,
because I would say that, uh, kind of a core tenet
of narcissistic personality is certainly the claiming of,
of victimhood, though the action is very much to obviously
create victimhood and others.
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's big subject.
Well, let me read this question.
What, what Don Don followed up the, the cat discussion here
and said, um, if experience
of the mind has sufficiently chosen the right hand path
as total purity is approached
and choosing of the right hand path,
then total imperiousness from the effect
of the left hand catalyst is also approached.
So the interpretations of wanting to see in terms of,
um, separation others is, is less
and less something that makes sense at all in the mind.
And yeah, so
I guess we could psychoanalyze people to a large degree
with this, this alone, but, um,
Well, I think it's a, it's again about perception.
If you choose the light of perception that will allow you
to have an experience that lets you see truth, which is
to see the one infinite creator in its choice,
even having an experience of its own ignorance,
but doing so in its own choice
and that you are aware of that, then you are doing
so in the right hand path
and you are then impervious to the left hand catalyst
because you're seeing the truth.
The left hand catalyst comes
because you're seeing the illusion,
not because you're seeing the truth.
Right. And putting more of a charge on it, even
Indeed.
Yeah. Because you're, you're explicitly denying,
by the way, what is true.
We're not, we're not saying that you're,
you're choosing the inherently ambiguous
and then manifesting it one way or the other.
You are taking an aspect of the one infinite creator
and you are carving it out.
You are slicing it out and away from that and,
and denying yourself an awareness of its source
and its truth and,
and declaring it as something that is sort of self existent.
Mm-Hmm.
All. So we're,
we've just got two more in session nine five here on this
particular archetype that we could cover,
and then we can loop back around if we have time, um,
and also cover any other, any
anything else we see in this image.
Um, so, um, then Don asked,
I, I've often wondered about the action, um,
no, wait, this was an unrelated question,
but we might as well touch on it.
'cause it was a Don's train of thought.
Um, I, I've often wondered about the action of random
and program catalyst with respect to the entity
with a very strong positive or negative polarization.
Would one either be free
to a great extent from random catalyst occurring such as,
oh, let's take, uh, natural catastrophes or warfare
or something like that, that generates a lot of random,
random catalyst and the physical vicinity
of a highly polarized entity.
Does this great cat then have effect on such random catalyst
upon the right hand path
and we're offset in two circumstances?
This is, so, firstly, if there had been
the pre-incarnate choice that for instance,
one shall not take life in the service
of the cultural group, events shall
fall in a protective manner.
Secondly, if an entity is able to dwell completely in unity,
the only harm that may occur to it is the changing
of the outward physical Gil Ray vehicle into the more
light-filled mind, body, spirit complex vehicle
by the process of death.
All other suffering and pain is
as nothing to one such as this.
Yeah, that's, yeah, there's a lot there.
I don't disagree with that by the way,
but it's also like, yeah, if you're the Buddha, you know,
like yeah, you know, there is no suffering and pain,
but you know, to be in that complete unity, you know, is not
as totally accessible to Yeah,
All Of us. But I do,
I do like the first part of that
that basically says Preincarnated, we decide whether
or not we're gonna go to war.
And I, I would have to imagine that that's the case
of all the, the sole contracts that we enter into
before incarnating, that's gotta be a big one, is whether
or not we're ever gonna take another life, you know, in, in,
as it says here, the service of of our country.
And it's interesting, they don't necessarily say this is a
negative or positive thing, a negative or positive polarity.
It's just saying not taking a lifetime that would
be in service of a particular cultural group.
So maybe in the earlier periods of our, our cycle,
uh, 75,000 years ago, maybe there were beings who were not
taking lifetimes to be of service to the group,
but were just taking lifetimes to, to try
to learn more basically on a tribal level, um,
and not necessarily needing to do anything
but learn specific lessons that were not relating to, um,
the greater community and
therefore there be, uh, inherent protection
and just learning those lessons in
that protected experiment of that lifetime.
Yeah, I think this is, they're actually kind of
explicit here to say that, um,
because Don's question is about random catalyst, not
so much about, uh, well he does say warfare,
but catastrophes and things like that.
But what they're saying is that, um, I suppose
what I'm seeing here anyway is that, uh, if you've happen
to pre-incarnate decided that you will not be taking life,
um, then you're more likely
to be more protected from some of those other things.
And I would imagine that the inverse is also therefore true.
That if you do decide that you're gonna incarnate and,
and are gonna go to war,
that events may not fall in a protective manner,
and that you may be subject to more random
catalyst in the physical vicinity
of your highly polarized self if you happen to be,
because that was, by the way, the other context, uh,
in Don's question, he did say highly polarized.
So like you said, while the taking a life itself, um,
somehow may have a different, you know,
could have different polarity,
and I'm not sure how you,
you can take a life in positive polarity,
but I suppose you could in protection of, of,
you know, a cultural group.
Uh,
Do you have any other thoughts on that, Nathan?
Uh, I was just gonna add, uh, when you were talking about
that too, it kind of made me think too when Ron was talking
about with some of the early third density entities
as they just kind of, um, uh, what do they call it, like,
automatically incarnate here too, as they were just trying
to get the different experiences and different catalysts
before they even get to the point to be able to make that
decision, um, on, on one path or another there.
But I guess I'm not exactly sure if that ties in,
but it seems like that might have to do with the protective,
uh, manner as well to, to some of those
entities depending on where they're at
and what has been preincarnated set up for them to,
to learn in each, each um, lifetime.
Yeah,
My initial impression though was that this is, uh,
possibly more referring to negatively oriented beings
and positively oriented beings with
not taking life in service to a cultural group.
They would less likely be wanna be of service to
that cultural group along the negative path.
So the second half of this though, is I think just,
you know, is just funny.
It's literally almost just sort of humorous
because raw is saying, yeah, if you're in complete unity,
you know, you're totally free of catalyst.
I mean, you might, you know, be tortured to death
or any of these other things,
but it really won't matter by the time it happens.
Yeah, yeah.
Alright, so moving on.
I guess, uh, the next question
Don asked, which, and I'm glad I put
these together, they kind of flowed together.
He asked, am I to understand then
that there is no protection at all if the experience
of the mind has become negative
and the negative path has traveled,
all random catalyst may affect the negatively polarized
individual as a function
of the statistical nature of the random catalyst.
Is this correct? And Ross said this is correct.
You may note some of those peoples, some of those
of your peoples, which at the space time nexus
seek places of survival.
This is due to the lack of protection when service
to self is evoked.
Hmm. So
I'm gonna read the question again here.
So Don Donna is asking, is there no protection at all
if the negative path is traveled?
So I guess that might actually rule out
what I just said about the previous one protective manner.
Um, they're talking about the specific symbol of the cat,
still that cat gets a lot of discussion.
Um, a cat represents a along
because it's on the left side of the car,
that'd be the right side of the person, the right hand path.
And, and as the extra clarity here,
there's no protection at all if the negative path is
traveled, all random catalyst may affect the negative
polarized individual is a function of the
statistical nature of the random catalyst.
Is this correct where I said this is right?
And the best example is people who seek survival.
So it seems like that's like the why the negative path is
so that 95% to be of service to self
because you have to take every situation
and figure out how to control it, manipulate it in,
in your favor there where there's no protection
for you along that, that route.
There nothing else to, to look to.
It's all your decision at that point each time.
So it's this constant effort that you need to put in,
it seems to, to accomplish that.
This is fascinating.
Literally, service self survival.
I mean, come on fellas.
I know this is a deep dive
and I hate to come across as rudimentary,
but I mean, my goodness, I mean,
and I I also totally love this and I'm fascinated by this,
but r's literally saying that if you're, you know,
out trying to survive that you are
probably gonna be more subject to regular random catalyst.
Yeah. Because you are just so focused on yourself.
Yeah, I like it.
Now if I'm focused on keeping my family in a survival
situation, I think I have a mixed bag here
because I could be manifesting from fear,
I could be manifesting, oh no,
all these bad things could happen to me too
and I gotta be working, working to make sure they don't.
But ultimately I think that service to self,
i i is a part of the programming of other people too.
And the karmic relationships I have with others to try
to help them will naturally put me on a,
on a more protected path. I think too. I
Totally agree.
'cause when you are seeking the survival of your family,
you will do so to your own detriment every single time.
And you know, therein lies the altruism
and it's not service to self.
And it's, it is also interesting to think if a person,
say, for example, is afraid of the end of the world
and they go off to build a cabin on their own in, in the,
in the woods, um, um, you really are missing a lot
of catalysts from other people.
You're missing a lot of opportunities to grow.
And, um, there's not really a a lot of ways to learn to be
of service to others in that, in that sense.
And you really are focused on yourself.
Yeah, exactly. Because You're only dedicated really
poor weather and random attacks by animals
and other survivalists.
Wow. Yeah.
When you're trying to get away from things,
you're actually invoking it on yourself more so in,
in the act of doing that and being so blocked
and caught up in the red ray it seems.
Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's true.
That's even, that's a good point.
That's really in the red, red ray.
I mean, you're, you're not even active at the
yellow ray at that point.
Whereas we were looking at earlier it said blockage was
control of manipulation.
But I would have to presume that if you were to, to just,
um, you know, uh, run away from society altogether
as we're talking about here you are withdrawing from,
you know, yellow ray exchange.
So what does happen to your, to your, uh,
your solar plexus chakra if it's not blocked?
Because that would be control and manipulation,
or is that exactly what it is?
Because by separating yourself from your community
and from society, you are exerting the absolute
most highest level of control that you can by
thoroughly controlling that dynamic.
Right. But Would you say, I, I guess my thought on
that too is like, so seeking on that,
the negative path there, you still do need to use
that triad, that lower red, orange, yellow to be able
to bypass green and move up from there.
So it seems like you would be limited possibly on
how far you could go without having others, I guess,
to control or manipulate.
So you're taking care of yourself.
I, you know, just my thought there, it seems like you'd be,
you wouldn't be able to use the higher energy centers
Yeah. By separating
Yourself the first one that it skips.
Yeah, It does.
So it goes, it goes red, orange, yellow, blue.
'cause I thought it was more like a,
yeah, I guess it would have to.
I thought, I thought there was another one though
that was absent in it.
It's ambiguous. There's two
different places in the material.
If you look at the, I think maybe Toby Wheelock had some
notes about that, that there's ambiguity when they,
in two different sessions about whether
or not the blue ray should be
considered included in the negative.
Um, but that's kind of a, a separate discussion.
But, um, yeah, it's interesting.
They, they give the, the, the crowning examples of,
of the negative entities on earth as people like Genis,
Khan, Rasputin,
and these, these people, they, they went out of their way
to conquer and continuously
take energy from others more and more and more.
And that's what was needed to become the,
the highest example of a negative entity
that could actually graduate along the negative path
was somebody who was constantly using others.
Yeah.
Enslaving. And that constant need to, to control
and take that energy back, like, like you're saying.
Yeah. Hey, do you guys think
that capitalism is an expression of negative polarity
and that anyone participating as an entrepreneur
or business owner is engaged in
according choices?
It has a lot to do with preserving free will.
And in some sense you need, uh,
without, without free will, you cannot be a capitalist.
And also, but this,
I literally just had this thought a few days ago.
It's like, it's like, clearly we want freedom to be able
to exchange goods and services.
Um, but if you are taking away people's freedom
because you've monopolized a particular market and you,
and no one else has the freedom to be engaged in
that market, then there's capitalism gone,
gone too far in that sense.
Okay, well that's more like Polism then. Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
Okay. Well, I I, I've sort of grappled this
with this recently and,
and I've been thinking about it a lot lately
as a business owner because I'm, I'm sort
of making this attempt to, to show that a
a people period culture can result in, um,
success by traditional me, uh, metrics.
And I've been grappling a little bit
with the metaphysics of it all, frankly.
And what I've contended sort
of playing devil's advocate here recently
with a few people is that profit is always taking more than,
than what something is necessarily worth
and always at the cost of what somebody could spend
that on something else that they need even.
And I don't know how, how we can totally run away from
or deny, you know, that argument that I can make. But, um,
I, I've often considered with Ascension works tv,
is there a point at which I would say
everything is now gonna be free.
However, everyone who's currently paying is
now giving me donations.
And if you wanna cancel your donation, you can,
but I'm calling these donations now,
so it's more free wheel based exchange,
and you can donate more if you want.
But really, and we're in a situation where people don't have
that much money and they don't wanna donate more money.
Um, so it's a, it's a complicated game of, of, of free will.
But really, if people have free will to donate to you
for your services, that's not a bad thing.
That's not infringing on their free will.
It's just a matter of what is, I, I I, that's why I feel
that money is not necessarily direct, direct amounts
of money are not necessarily telling you about what's going
on in a person's mind and in their, their will
and their spirit, and if they feel infringed upon
because they had to shovel over the money.
Um, it's, it's very, very, it's almost like you have to talk
to everybody individually, you know,
and negotiate with everybody individually. Yeah,
You do. Because it's, it's
about what it's worth,
I suppose, to them.
Yeah, Right. Exactly.
And that's their free will to,
to decide that at that point too.
And I, I think it also kind of ties into with the,
with the intention behind it of, of who is
providing the service or doing it.
If you are doing this for, for the greatest good
and to be of service at the end of the day, you do need
to survive in this world here as well too.
And if that's the way you need to charge a little bit for,
but you're giving back in the same
sense and providing a service.
It's like, I don't know, it's a slippery slope,
But I'm not talking about survival
and Yeah, I totally get that too.
And that's what somebody else I was talking
to said something, you know, similar, well, you need
to make, you know, you gotta pay your bill.
I'm like, yeah, obviously, yeah,
definitely all the bills are paid,
everyone's fed, you know, all this stuff.
You know, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about
the vast accumulation of wealth, you know,
at the very upper, upper, upper echelons of society.
And, you know, that's
where it's something very, very different.
But that's the ideal that most of a capitalist society
is oriented toward and aim toward.
And frankly, a lot of people that support capitalism
and vote for capitalist ideas do so out of their own belief
that they're eventually going to be cashing in on
that same type of wealth.
And, and it, you know, obviously in the vast majority
of cases, that never happens.
It's just not a thing. It's just a big pipe dream
that people vote for wealth and riches
because they would like wealth and riches,
but you know, they're not voting to, you know, to give it
to themselves as much as they might like to.
Maybe we should do another episode on
chakras at some point and
Yeah. And polarity even. Yeah.
Agreed. Alright.
Yeah, you can make a note of that
and we'll put on Yeah, on the doc.
The relationship between money
and survival is very fascinating and it's very complex.
Yeah. Okay. Fair.
Yep. All right, so the last actually you brought
Up a, oh, Sorry, go ahead. No, you go ahead. I
Was just say, I think you brought up a
balancing quote as well too.
That would be good. That would kind of tie in with,
with analyzing the energy centers and stuff to it as well.
So, um, I'll make note of it. Next slide. Yep.
Alright. And then the last one on the experience
of the bind, uh, the last question Don asked was,
the possibility of the legs of the entity of card four
being at approximate right angles was linked
with the test direct mentioned in a much earlier session
by Ron as the direction
of the transformation from spacetime into timespace.
I was thinking that possibly it was also linked
with the corrects on, so am I anyway, correct
with this observation and bra said, the, the observation
of right angles and their transformational meaning is
most perceptive of a student.
Each of the images leading to the transformations of mind,
body, and spirit, and ultimately
to the great transformative choice
have the increasing intensity
of increasing articulation of concept.
That is to say each image in which you find this angle may
increasingly be seen to be a more
and more stridently calling voice of opportunity
to use each resource, be it, be it experience
as you now observe or further images for the grand work
of the adapt, which builds towards transformation using the
spirit's bountiful shuttle to intelligent infinity.
Um, and the building up the, the talking about the, the,
the final archetype, the, the world. So yeah.
So are they saying in, uh, that in each
of the experience archetypes, uh, leading up to each
of the transformation archetypes
that we see this right angle?
'cause it says each of the images leading
to the transformations of mind, body, and spirit.
So that would be the ex Oh,
no, no, that would be the significance.
Wait, no, can't
It be all of them? Yeah.
Oh, all of them.
So everything that's got a right angle.
Yeah. So there are definitely
right angles in some of these.
Yeah. Um,
and then significant we'll talk about next time,
um, and then transformation.
Yeah. So let me look at that again.
So the observation of the right angles
and their transformational meaning is most perceptive.
So all these right angles are referring
to the transformation that is to come, it seems,
and then it's the increasing intensity of
increasing articulation of concept
that increases as each image proceeds.
So would that be the concept complexes that,
that Ron talks about within the archetype?
So you are understanding it further
or articulating it better in that sense,
a deeper meaning of, of the archetype?
Or is it more broad?
I guess they explained it again when they say
the more stridently calling voice of opportunity
to use each resource.
So,
So every right, every right angle effectively,
what is an opportunity to, to turn
and shift your, your perception, and
It's a, I guess it's symbolizing that potential
and stridently means in a way that sounds loud,
unpleasant and rough and sound.
I wasn't guessing that
Stridently can be characterized by harsh insisted
and discordant sound.
Maybe that's what right ankle represents too.
Can you pull up that other session
that they referenced there about the test act
like the 52 10?
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's, that'd be beautiful.
Okay. So this question was, um,
about UFOs wonderful.
Um, talking about the slingshot effect, uh, that
UFO craft use to slingshot across the universe.
The question was, um, the only thing I can see is
that you must put energy into the craft
until it approaches the velocity of light
and of course requires more
and more energy that the time dilation occurs.
And it seems to me that this would be possible
by moving at 90 degrees to the direction of travel,
somehow change the stored energy in its application
of direction or sense so that it can move into
or out of time space into time, into out
of space time into time space.
It's a 90 degree deflection.
Then the energy would be taken out in a, in timespace
and you would reenter space time at the end
of this energy traversal.
Am I any way correct on this?
Russ says you're quite correct as far
as your language may take you.
And due to your training more able than we
to express this concept, our only correction, our,
our only correction if you will, would be to suggest
that the 90 degree
of which you speak are an angle which may best be understood
as a portion of a test direct.
So te the test direct here by Toby Wheelock,
this is note says in speculative mathematics,
a test act is a cube which has developed at least
one additional dimension
Isn like typically shown like that cube with the cube
inside it then too as well, like kind of absorbed in,
but it's Yeah, yeah, like that. Yeah.
But clearly the visual doesn't really mean that much
because we're talking about a dimension
that we're not perceiving into,
except in sense we're talking about the 90 degrees,
which would be the entrance into time space
as a different dimension, I think.
Yeah. So once again, RA you know,
Don's like, oh, is it like this?
And Rob's like, yeah, you're real close.
Except no, not even like is he is like, is it a left turn?
And they're like, no, it's a whole different dimension.
I think that's just so funny
because he's like, it's, it's a 90 degree
and like I was like following too.
I'm like eating the popcorn. I'm
like, wow, this is gonna be crazy.
It's really just a 90 degree turn.
Yeah, no, it's more like you turn into another dimension.
He did say out of time space, into time space
with a 90 degree deflection, if
that can make any sense to any of this.
Yeah. That's where I was like, man,
where's Don getting this?
And then they're like, wow, you're quite correct.
And then, oh well yeah, sort of in that, in
that you put a whole bunch of force
and momentum into one direction
and then suddenly you shift it into a totally different one.
But he just drops it again in session 95.
Like I wonder if this relates to the test route.
Oh, because he had the, the right angle.
That's why, that's why he had equated it to it
because he was the one saying 90 degree,
and Rod already corrected him
and said, no, it's a hyper cube
and here's Don again going Yeah,
pretty sure it's not just a hard left.
Yeah. Uh, but they basically say yes,
because this is a symbol of transformation, which is
of mind, body, and spirit.
Um, so it's, it's a pretty simple mathematical expression,
I guess that there's the right angle, but,
but I guess we, we maybe make things more complicated than
they need to be with, with our fuzzy subjective reality.
Unlimited viewpoints.
I guess from that point too,
like talking about a physicist trying to explain some
of these things that point you're like,
our language can only take you so far,
it seems when you start getting into the true metaphysical
nature of reality.
Yeah,
No, I would like to say that the, the experience of the,
of sort of either the veil or,
or at least the, the information
or the experience that seems to be
behind it definitely feels like an that's,
it feels like this pocket, right?
That's just within your own consciousness that's just there.
And it has to be, 'cause all dimensions are, so it kind of,
you know, again, makes sense that these dimensions
that scientists say are so unbelievably tiny.
It's like, well sure if you need to fit a whole bunch
of space in them, but you really don't need to.
So it's interesting, we could keep digging into some
of these, but maybe we should talk about any other symbols
that we may have missed here.
Um, so they, they redrew the, the wand,
which is was a snake, I assume, representing Kundalini
to some degree with the crown on the head,
but they just took that orb
and just said, this is the more
pure symbol that we're talking about.
Um, or at least I, for,
I even forget now if this was what they suggested.
But, um,
I think it was because it was like that magical ability
or that magical potential to, um, to manifest or,
or use the un uh, unconscious mind.
Right? Yep.
And it's interesting, this is also like the top of the,
of the crux on soda, the circle that represents the magical
or infinite nature of that magic potential.
Hmm. Yeah. I didn't look at that
Significant or in a forward facing mode.
Um, No, still
Still the same direction.
Still off to the left. Yeah, I was thinking,
'cause you had the catalyst with the, the bird
that was pointing off to the right, you know, saying that,
hey, there's always light, there's a new perception,
there's a new way that you could see this.
And then we go into experience
where now the guy is holding up his own, his own, you know,
magical ball and,
and starting to realize
that he can manifest a reality perhaps in that way.
And yet he's still predisposed
because his reality is based in this three-dimensional
illusion, which has as its basis the predicate
that everyone is totally separate.
And so yeah, I guess it does make sense
that we're all still predispose to the left.
What is the first archetype
or is there a, what is the first archetype
that's not looking to the left?
I don't know if it's looking forward or to the right
or, oh, well, I guess you got the potentiator, huh?
Yeah. Oh, well the potentiator iss looking forward
because she's always got polarity.
She's not predisposed
because everything that comes from the potentiator has co
Competed on that structure of potential.
Yeah. Yeah. So that makes sense that she's not, um,
but what about after experience?
Uh, what about or transformation?
Yep. The transformation is not
chosen in the archetype in its full expression.
There's the, the pull of the two.
Yeah. Because it's not predisposed at this point.
You do have to, you have a choice of polarity in order
to go one way or another, right?
Yep. The transformation has to make a choice.
Uh, okay. And the great way
And back to looking to the left,
Back to the left, uh,
but having mastered third density reality, I imagine.
Yeah. And that was redrawn
with the sphere again as well,
With the lights coming off it too.
So it's like the activated truly, um, in touch
with unconscious mind at that point.
Yeah, Yeah. Like using the vast resources
of the unconscious mind. Yeah.
He Partially
Lifted, but we, we don't need to get into that now.
Yeah. And then with the body, I might as well switch over
to back to these cards.
So the body blindfolded, looking to the left with the
balanced working or even functioning and
Then not just looking to the left,
also totally facing, facing the left.
I mean, there's only just the one right arm
that even reaches back to the right, to the right,
but the body that makes sense, right?
The body is an absolute physical expression,
so it's gonna be oriented
virtually entirely to the illusion.
Yeah. Same with the wisdom, the potentiator
and sort of the same with the sky in the top
of the catalyst of the body.
And then same with experience the body
and then significant,
Because that's the Mark upside down.
Yeah. Upside down
And facing to the right. But
it's by the time you finally have sacrificed, you know,
the body, then you, you finally realize, right, isn't that
what we were reading earlier?
That, that that's when Jesus basically fully realized it
and released his own, uh, guilt.
Yeah.
Look, I've crossed legs though.
Yeah. Also has the cross legs. It's a tesseract.
And then the death, The
Death can look the other way And all
the way to the right, huh?
Yeah. That's transformation there
because there's, there's only one way to go at that point,
you know, the body is so completely oriented to the illusion
that the death
and transformation of the body of course has
to now go back the other direction.
I'm happy the rainbow has made an appearance again too.
Oh, this one was not redrawn though, so we don't know. Yeah.
What's the great way of the
body back to the, the left,
The alchemist. Yeah.
Um, what are the archetypes of the spirit?
Which, which direction are they facing
The devil facing that way?
Yeah. The, the change servants I guess,
and both directions upside down, I guess.
What's that? Lightning? Yeah.
And then to the left or the catalyst of faith
and back and forth, the dogs with the moonlight.
Yeah. Much more balanced, huh? On the spirit side.
Yeah. The sun is clearly masculine. Feminine.
Yeah. That's why it's all less motile, right?
Like it's, it's just the static, totally balanced
and dark and light,
but just out of phase
transformational to the right.
Oh. Except for the thing that's up there in the right
pointed back at
The left up. Yeah.
Great preview to this discussion.
But yeah, and then
here we have the man
and the woman with the, with the great wave of the spirit,
but then the animals are rotated around.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Yeah. We'll, we'll get into that eventually.
And the choice, the full Oh, yep. To the left. Yeah.
Here we go. Well, what's the worst that could happen?
Yep. Intrepid, isn't he?
Let's go back and include with our discussion
of the experience of the mind,
and I guess
maybe we should even look at the redrawn version.
The redrawn version didn't have flowers around the,
out the edge of the material illusion symbol of the box.
Yeah. But it's still so firmly rooted.
I mean, when we look at the real core
fundamental energies here, we've got predisposition
to the left and, and the negative polarity.
We've got the distance between us
and our fellows when we go that path, we've got the light
that we are aware of now on the right.
So we start to be aware of choice.
I mean, that's really what experience is, is a, a linearity
of, of um, you know, experience that we, you know,
then get to start to choose one from the next.
And then you've got the cat there for good measures, saying
if you do choose that way, it's gonna go, um,
you'll be a little bit more protected.
And that kind of makes sense too, you know,
because the random catalyst,
the difficulty is really just gotta be to get you
to wake up ultimately.
I mean, that's what the dark night of the soul is, right?
Like it's sort of like archetypal, um, you know, know,
falling on your face so to speak and needing to wake up.
And if that's what the challenge in all catalyst really is,
is trying to wake you up to, to that fact,
then I guess it is gonna be just far more likely if
you're going on that path.
So what is this one? Is Chin, is that a beard there?
Or is, doesn't look like as much of a beard here,
but maybe that is meant to be a beard
and maybe that's an Egyptian symbol we need
Nick to tell us about too. I don't know. Yeah,
So I was thinking it looks like that Egyptian, uh,
almost cone sort of thing that they put on their,
on their beard for, I don't know if it was ceremonial
or something, but it does seem, uh, cultural.
Yeah, That's a good question. Is this a female?
Is that what we decided? I didn't even,
No, this is supposed to be masculine.
Oh. Uh, where are we at here? Oh, okay. I gotcha.
Yeah, That was my first take too, Andrea.
It took a little while to to process
that one there. 'cause it yeah, looks fun
In the hair and stuff.
I mean, honestly, this really does have a lot of
feminine energy, but I, I did, I guess I did sort
of understand it to be masculine as well. Um,
Yeah.
Do you think the clothing has any significance there
that almost like snake skin looking part
and then the um, covering over the shoulders
and the arms there as well and some of the other images?
It seems like the clothing does have a meaning
also that factors in.
That's a lot of symbols in the clothing. Yeah.
But I don't know what that would be.
What was the, um, was the character in the catalyst
that was feminine, wasn't it?
Yeah. And she had some
of the decorative patterns on the clothing.
Yeah. Like semi-permeable though,
or semi see-through at that point.
So the other one's a little more protected it
seems than, than this one.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I do wonder if it could relate
to the chakras in some way too.
Maybe there's more, uh, colorful
or decorative nature in the experience when you get
to the higher chakras.
Oh, with those symbols. Oh, I was also remembering
that Dawn asked, um, raw about the catalyst,
uh, of the mind and it coming through the veil
and that perhaps being why she had, you know,
more veils on that card as well.
Um, and I don't remember exactly what Ross said to that.
And for some reason, part of me wants to say
that they said something like, eh, it's not so much
that it comes through as it does, you know,
this other thing, but there was more
of a relationship I guess between the catalyst coming
through the potentiator
and you know, from beyond the veil into experience.
And by the time it becomes sort of in, into experience,
it's like made manifest, right.
So now it's, it's entirely perceptible and,
and really we're we're I guess more
or less beyond an awareness of the veil at that point.
Here we go. I was just wondering if the transparency
of the government on the third card indicates the
semi-permeable nature of the veil
between conscious and subconscious.
Mar said, this is a thoughtful perception.
It cannot set be said to be incorrect.
However, intended suggestion in general is an echo
of our earlier suggestion that the nature of catalyst is
that of the unconscious
that is outward catalyst comes through the veil.
Ah, it was the opposite of what I said then they
definitely confirmed that it comes through the veil.
Mm-Hmm. Well then, then the fact
that it disappears in the following archetype would,
would tell me that now we've moved it into
to full consciousness
And Yep, yep.
Yeah. That is the biggest distinction between the,
it's like, it's like that which is coming to us that is, uh,
still, still in the unconscious realm of our mind,
not fully seen consciously
and then now fully seen consciously
through the veil is the emperor.
Yeah. And now we're, now we're working with, with him and
Yeah. In
thought and Getting that test act ready to go
Firing up the Stargate.
Alright. This is a great discussion. I appreciate it.
I always appreciate it. It's been great.
Yeah. Thank you as always.
It's, I think we all learn
equally from a lot of this here too.
So it, it's amazing. Love the opportunity to be here.
Yep. Yep. Likewise
You Guys for watching and hope to see you next time.
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