Corey Talks with Dr Starr McKinnon
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Hello Welcome to Accelerating ascension I'm Corey
Goode And today I'm with Dr Star Mckinnon I have
her on location She is calling in remote via zoom
and uh I'm very happy to have you here today with
this star Thank you Very happy to be here Thank you
Do you mind giving a little bit of your background
Sure So I I've always been interested in everything
esoteric and spiritual I was raised in a very not
religious non spiritual household but was drawn to
it even from a young child and I struggle with
addiction as a teen and and young adult which
really pushed me into some pretty dark places Uh
And when I emerged from that I started my own
awakening process I decided to go back to school
and get my degree in psychology ended up getting a
doctorate in psychology Yeah and in the midst of my
graduate training I a lot of different experiences
with a lot of different types of people What I was
also continuing to go through my own awakening
process Um I lost my brother suddenly and then I
also um just out of graduate school ended up
getting a very rare and kind of aggressive form of
cancer that I was able to heal Um what the doctors
say spontaneously with um with spiritual practices
diet and just completely turning my life around
which then really kind of opened my awakening
process to a new level and then I shifted my
practice focus to helping those who are going
through the awakening process because it can be
such a confusing and often lonely process and there
just are not very many resources available That's
amazing Um You know it may not surprise some people
watching but most health care professionals I find
looking at my linkedin profile um often they end up
contacting me later and asking me can you you know
talk with my patient and let them know that you
know this is not reality you know Uh and there you
know and the person is going through an awakening
and is looking for genuine help So finding mental
health professionals out there that are not going
to label a person you know as some sort of mental
mentally ill person if they come to them with this
type of information is essential So it is great
that there are therapists out there that have that
you Yeah I actually have encountered supervisors
who wanted to diagnose people as psychotic or
needed to be on medication for having thickening
type of experiences and Exactly yeah So it's it's a
challenge in the mental health community Yeah Well
just imagine if I went and talked about the eight
ft blue birds that I've been seeing it might be in
a rubber room right now Yeah Uh um Yeah I mean the
awakening process is you know it is confusing on
its own you start going down all of these rabbit
holes Um but also right now this ascension process
What's going on You know there's I mean you have to
see it more than anyone else People are acting
strange Their relationships are having major issues
and many of them are falling apart People that have
just what were minor you know uh personality
distortions or you know issues there being you know
you know magnified many many times Is this
something that you've noticed in your practice
Absolutely I'm seeing a huge increase in just
overall acuity of mental health symptoms a lot of
relationship difficulties a lot of um life sort of
midlife crisis type of what am I doing with myself
and what is life really all about A lot of increase
in suicidality People are feeling like they're at
their breaking point that they feel like they
really can't cope with Um the society that we're
all living in seeing a huge increase in that
unfortunately Um most definitely over the less I'd
say 2 to 3 years there's been a substantial
increase in just the significance of the mental
health symptoms themselves Have psychologists and
psychiatrists attributed that to anything I mean
didn't increase the spine You know there is a lot
of chatter about it in the community when I I did
some of my post doctoral training at a local
university here in SAn Diego And there was just a
market increase in um psychotic symptoms and
suicidality and depression and anxiety and people
were scratching their heads really trying to make
sense of what was going on Um and they really um
they don't have a good explanation for it I mean I
think those of us in the awakening community know
that you know there are heightened energies coming
into a planet at this time that's really
exacerbating what's there Um but but I would say
the majority of the mental health community don't
know what's going on and are just trying to meet
the demands of the increase in referrals into their
practices and a lot of what you're seeing the
behavior the changes in the way people are thinking
doesn't have anything to do with their past traumas
and karma Is it tied to that most often Because
that usually seems to be the root of you know
everything is that hidden uh you know damaged inner
child most definitely I think as more light is
coming to our planet I think the shadows are
surfacing and most often that's the result of
childhood traumas things that have been suppressed
Things that people may not have even been aware of
that they wouldn't have even considered traumas are
coming up there showing up a lot of times in
relationship with other people they're realizing
that they are acting in ways that they don't feel
good about or that are really damaging to other
people Um but yes most definitely yeah I guess um
you know a lot of it uh you know what I've seen
with relationships we've seen relationships all
over the place going through this and I think the
ones that you know survive or the people that are
close to being to the same laboratory level you
know development and consciousness But in some of
the relationships with the gap is so far apart or
that you know some of the traumas are so intense
you know you know you're seeing these relationships
you know coming to an end Yes Yeah we're seeing a
lot of that We're seeing a lot of people who are
awakening and their partner is sort of not taking
the same path and there is a pretty substantial gap
between those two partners where one feels
completely misunderstood and the other feels like
they just cannot grasp where the other partner is
headed But similarly even partners who are at the
same laboratory frequency Um they also have a
tendency to sort of trigger or reflect aspects of
each other that can stir things up just as much as
those who are sort of differing a vibrational
frequencies So relationships really play a big key
in terms of our growth and our own understanding of
ourselves and this whole ascension process as a
whole agreed Yeah I think that you know a lot of
you know you're right we completely mirror off of
each other most of us uh especially in this
community most of us are pretty close to being on
the same vibe but the people were with now for
those out there there are many out there that have
gone through rapid awakenings and rapid growth and
they're still with a spouse or someone who they're
not abusive you know they're they're fine you know
they think what you're looking at the stuff you're
getting into quirky little strange maybe they're
praying for you Sheena who knows How do you counsel
people to interact with that spouse or significant
other in a way that is healthy Like you know
instead of there being an emotional exchange you
know how do you you know counsel them on teaching
them to communicate in a way that's in exchange of
ideas and there's mutual respect and giving the
person may be little breadcrumbs so they can grow
as well That's a challenging question that I think
often differs person by person relationship by
relationship just because relationship dynamics are
so unique but I would say at the best advice I have
is to have compassion for wherever your partner is
on their path whether it's at the completely
opposite end of where you are or whether they're
you know sort of close or maybe a little bit behind
where you are or even ahead of where you are I
think we have to recognize that we're all walking
our own path in this grand scheme of all heading in
the same direction We have to have compassion for
people who may not be ready to have um to be
looking at certain types of information or new
insights their consciousness is not ready for it as
I'm sure many of us have experienced trying to drop
those red crumbs at the thanksgiving dinner table
doesn't always go as well as we hoped it would go
in Even our very close romantic partners are close
friends oftentimes their consciousness or their
psyche is not prepared to really digest and
integrate that type of information And so I would
also suggest that we just lead by example and
people notice that those of us walking through this
process and beginning to awaken our living more
peacefully We're riding the waves of the chaos of
what's happening in our world a little bit more
successfully And so people ask how do you do it You
know how are you staying scene right now when
there's so much chaos and conflict going on and
then that's when they're open when they asked when
they recognize that we're sort of not you know
we're buffered in some ways by not getting so
hooked into all the chaos and negativity And that's
when they're really open to you know digesting more
of that information rather than us trying to plant
it for them That is really good advice You know
being an example You know it sounds like a small
thing but people when they see your peace and your
calm we're paying attention to your habits and what
you're doing and you know and that is the most
loving way to try to influence them because if we
start trying to plant thieves we can risk becoming
manipulative and uh and making them feel like
they're being manipulated being frustrated you know
like they're not listening or they're not getting
it when their psyche is really just not ready for
it yet And if you're being an example well to be an
example you have to go within and you know do all
the work so you'll be doing the right thing anyway
So you know there's a lot of talk about being
service to others and serviced itself but you
really have to be a little bit selfish Sometimes
you have to guard your energy from those who
manipulate or control you or you won't have energy
for this mission that we feel like we're here for
Absolutely I would totally agree It's a balance
between uh sort of self care and self love self
compassion really filling yourself up so that you
can be of service to others in the greatest way
possible that you came to be Okay Thank you hang on
just a second Some giant drilling get started
Perfect timing That's really loud high end but okay
Yeah it just stopped Let me start up again Okay
sorry about that No problem Remember what we were
talking about We're talking about the balance
between services self service other self care Um
doing inner work so that we can be examples for
other people So I think a lot of people in this
community where light workers we feel like we have
to be constant murders and constantly turning the
other cheek Um for I'm sorry and I got really
distracted What was it that we just talked about We
were talking about service to self or others Yeah
self care and really being an example for others Mm
hmm So a lot of a lot of the people in this
community they're focused on being service to
others and focusing on themselves taking care of
themselves Mind body and spirit You know you have
to have a good psyche A nice healthy psyche
spiritually You have to have your consciousness you
know to be clean and clear You have to spend time
meditation and other spiritual practices You have
your body You know you have to uh you know take the
right supplements if you need to eat the right
types of foods drink you know pure water source uh
you know exercise and ground into your body So
having you know having people realize that they do
need to focus on themselves and not constantly be
worried about having to be of service to others
Sometimes being service to yourself gives you more
bandwidth if you if you spend a little time solving
a couple Um you know traumas that you've had you
know working on traumas and releasing that energy
You know like people have heard me talk before our
mind segments those little traumas and keeps them
at bay so that we don't have to they don't pop into
our consciousness and you know once we deal with
those issues we're opening up our bandwidth That
little little piece of processing power can now go
towards the rest of of your consciousness So the
more you deal with your traumas the more you get
yourself into a a clean and healthy lifestyle and
mental state you're going to be much more effective
in being of service to others I would absolutely
agree I think that's something that is very common
in the awakening community that they're giving so
much so to others or to humanity as a whole that
they are disregarding their own needs and they end
up having health issues or mental health types of
breakdowns panic attacks things like that because
they're over extending their own capacity to be of
service And so first and foremost you do have to do
that work You do have to learn to connect with
yourself and heal yourself in a way that you may
have not done before so that you don't get so
drained by being available or being of service to
other people And so that's critically important is
that that balance even for myself who I work with
people all day every day where I am of service to
others you know throughout my entire day I start my
day with a extensive self care routine so that I
feel myself up completely and I do I am very
conscientious about body movement and what I'm
eating and my meditation is my priority first thing
in the morning and if I don't put myself first and
I'm not able to follow my path of being of service
to others and so there really is a very delicate
balance there and part of it is just awareness of
how am I doing today Do I need a little extra rest
Do I need a little walk today Do I need some
sunshine Do I need to take a day off You know do I
need to eat something that's more invigorating for
my body A lot of this process is about self
awareness slowing down and just paying attention a
little bit more agreed and a part of being the
martyr is also going back to relationships you know
you're not going to be able to get to a good vibe
Batory state or even maintain one if you have you
know you know family relationships close by I mean
our work relationships friendships to where people
are energy vampires or uh there they manipulate and
you know a lot of uh people in the light worker
community a lot of times they'll end up with people
that are similar in the band width of narcissism
you know they end up having to deal with that So
it's important also that people in the light worker
community realize that they do have to put up
boundaries they do have to guard their own energy A
part of self care and self love is uh demanding
respect from others You know the same respect that
they would want Um you know a lot of people they
turn the other cheek so much or they have so much
in life that you know it I think that it's
incredibly important that people become empowered
to put up boundaries that are needed to guard their
energy uh selfishly because that energy is what
you're using to do this wider mission It is what
you use to be service to others Um how do you
suggest people that are in relationships with you
know different bandwidth narcissists and other
types of people that drain your energy Um you know
how how do you recommend that people you know put
those boundaries up when they've not really done
that before and that's another challenging
situation And I would answer similarly that it
starts with our relationship with ourselves and so
if we can learn to really develop a strong loving
connection with ourselves that we do not tolerate
those types of boundary violations as easily
anymore It's really interesting because when I
start to work with people and they start to really
love and value and respect themselves they really
start to realize that those relationships aren't
working for them they don't tolerate them it's
easier to say no and oftentimes by saying no you're
saying yes to yourself And so and it's in the
service of both people So I think that's one
misunderstanding that people have is that by saying
no is being mean in some way or you know not being
caring whereas a lot of times it's the most caring
thing that you can do for yourself and the other
person is to say no or even to distance yourself
from that person I think a lot of people especially
those in the awakening process have had very
difficult upbringings with often parents that were
not always the kindest And so there's a conflict
between having these parents in their life still
while trying to heal and love and care for
themselves And sometimes people do end up having to
really take a step back from their family members
in an effort to fully heal and to be able to be
more engaged with them and to be able to hold those
boundaries more firmly So I think in some my answer
is that you know first and foremost you need to do
your own work you need to do the work to heal and
care for yourself and really develop a loving
respectful relationship with yourself so that it's
not a challenge to say no When you notice someone
is crossing a line for you when you notice
somebody's being disrespectful that it's not easier
in a kind way to say I'm sorry you know that that
doesn't work for me or I'm sorry I'm going to
choose not to participate or I need some space for
me today I'll check in with you later It becomes
much easier when you have that sense of connection
with yourself Yeah I agree That's great You know
that's um you know I've seen I just it's when you
were talking it it put me off onto another thought
process Thinking of all of these beautiful white
workers that I've met that have some level of self
loathing It's really heartbreaking because you know
these are divine beings that came down here on a
mission and forgot who they were to do this machine
you know two and they went they picked this crappy
life before they came in And that upsets people
When I say that whole contract you came in and all
of these crappy things that occurred occurred to
train you to be the type of person you needed to be
to carry on the mission that you agreed to having
people realize that you know you're not an
alcoholic you're not a rape victim you're not a
this or that that's just what happened to you
That's just a part of your experience Don't
identify the minute you identify with those traumas
you give them even more energy than they really
would have had before and it gives them a whole new
right It leads into your life place when you tell
the person I'm with this Well you set up in their
consciousness a certain type of perception of
yourself and a lot of times you'll set up kind of
self fulfilled prophesies or situations you know Um
so I don't know I just did something that's broken
my heart quite a bit to see so many of these
wonderful white workers that have such a you know a
self loathing you know feeling Absolutely and
that's I think that's a lot of the work that I do
with people is sort of the unwired ring or the un
programming of some of the things that they've
begun to believe about themselves as a result of
the experiences that they've had in their life And
I firmly believe that everything is here to serve
us even the most horrific experiences can serve us
in some way And I also agree with you that we came
into these lifetimes designing a tumultuous path
especially so here in the spiritual community to
crack us open to wake us up because in a
comfortable life the egos never shaken up we never
start to question we never go into those deep dark
places that transform us And so if we stay in that
darkness stone we identify with it and we turn some
of that programming you know that we received from
our family or even society about not being good
enough because we're not this or that way we can
get stuck in those loops And so a lot of the
beginning of this journey is really unwinding kind
of peeling back all these things that you've picked
up along the way that aren't really you and as you
start to peel these layers back you just feel
lighter and lighter and lighter and more connected
and more clear about who you really are and what
you're here to do another people get stuck in and I
actually was trapped in it myself you know up until
a little while a little while ago because of all of
the crazy attacks that are going on the victim
mentality when you uh when you've had a lot of
trauma a lot of whether it be mental you know you
know I had four family members pass away threw me
into a state all of the attacks and everything Um
sorry what what what was I got distracted again
There's some it's okay I'm getting wrapped up in
the victim mentality Okay mm So I've had you know I
had a lot of people you know that we're passing
away and it was it was very difficult uh then all
of these people attacking us online and I've had
you know just a lot of issues most people know
what's going on and you know I was really starting
to get into the victim mentality and pointing my
finger at everyone else but finally it clicked with
me that I can't control everyone else I can't
control myself and when I realized that you know
some of the problems I was running into you know
were self inflicted or some of the problems we're
not as bad as I thought they were I was just
internalizing them too much or focusing on them and
getting myself into a a state Um so you know the
victim mentality you have to get out of that if
you're going to you know get you know to a point to
where you can make any headway and clearing because
um yeah it's all about self responsibility
accepting responsibility for the things that you've
done that can be very difficult especially with
some of them are traumatic you know Um So the
victim mentality has I have also seen along with
self loathing quite a bit in this community What
what are some of the ways that you try to snap
people out of it or is that they have to come out
of it on their own There's definitely ways that you
can facilitate that process more quickly remove out
of that Um Yeah I mean first and foremost it's
about paying attention it's about really paying
attention to how you talk to yourself I think the
number one important thing to remember what you've
already mentioned is that you're in control So
you're in control of where you focus your attention
and your perception of how you interpret the way
that your life is unfolding So one person can see a
certain circumstances completely different from the
way somebody else sees it and you are the one who
has the power to decide how you're going to respond
to that The problem is is that you know 95% of
people are reacting based on the programming that
they you know sort of um take it on based on their
upbringing rather than responding consciously And
so part of coming out of some of these different
traps that we fall into is about becoming more
responsive to life And so we have to start by first
and foremost paying more attention slowing down
paying more attention to what our mind is giving us
What is our mind telling us How are we talking to
ourselves So it's really just a matter of stepping
back and just paying more attention to what am I
thinking How is it making me feel how is it making
me respond And it's definitely a process that you
have to be patient with yourself through because
we're used to living a certain way we're used to
just living in a lot of automatic response and
behaviors And so um that's really the beginning of
it is learning to live more mindfully And there's a
practice called mindfulness where you actually
learn to pay attention to what your mind is telling
you rather than living from what your mind is
telling you which gives you that little bit of
space in there to choose differently Oh that's a
helpful thought or that thoughts not quite true or
let me let me just sit back before I decide how to
respond before I jump in And so that's really first
and foremost the beginning is just awareness of
what your mind is telling you what you're
programming actually is What are some of the same
tapes and stories that play out in your head that
are affecting the way that you're reacting rather
than responding And then once you practice that
long enough you create enough of a gap that you can
choose differently And that's where the compassion
peace comes in as well is that you get to choose
which thoughts are serving you which thoughts you
want to buy into and really let the rest go without
getting hooked into them Because you know where
that leads you know a lot of us kind of follow
those same tapes that play out over and over again
and we wonder why we're in the same position with
the same life circumstances Whereas if we can slow
down and pay attention and respond differently and
we have a lot of choice and a lot more freedom and
just live more peacefully because we don't get as
hooked into some of those beliefs and thoughts that
I would say probably like the majority are not true
The majority of what our mind offers us is not true
unless we stop to examine them We're going to be
living in that type of victim mentality in that
reactive type of consciousness that reactive that
that leads me right to the next thing many people
who have had a lot of trauma because of it unbelted
with trauma they have the reactionary it can be
reactionary Um and a lot of people in this
community have been through traumas and there's the
crazy energies right now a lot of people that are
reactionary um how do we snap You know people out
of being reactionary they're going to be people
that are watching this right now that whether it be
about the current president or a different country
a different ideology that just sets them off uh you
know something like that or you know people that
are just right now completely they're just frazzled
How do we you know when when people come in and you
they know that they're having a problem and they
come to you and they're they're frazzled in a
reactionary state How do we start grounding them Uh
and so they can realize that they're in a
reactionary state and begin to focus on taking care
of it Yeah that's a great question and oftentimes
the work can't even begin until we can help people
to unravel their completely overstimulated nervous
systems people are living in a state or fight or
flight there are just waiting for the next argument
And so part of you know sometimes the initial
process before we can even dig into the deeper work
is to help people to slow down and relax And part
of it is just taking care of your body So exercise
is a great way to discharge some of that excess
sympathetic or stress activity that's stuck in the
muscle tissues in the body Breath work can be
incredibly powerful The mind always criticizes
breathwork because it seems so simple but it's
great It's great I've just started delving into it
amazed just the different breed practices how it
can change your state Um it completely changes your
state it completely changes your mood And so just
by shifting the way that you breathe and just your
awareness of your breath during the day can change
a lot in terms of your reactivity and how stressed
you feel how you sleep how your body functions
etcetera As you mentioned earlier grounding is a
very helpful technique which can include er thing
so you know connecting to the earth connecting to
nature Those are very grounding things But really
just helping yourself feel safe now in your body
through different types of relaxation techniques is
going to be very important to help you be less
reactive to think more clearly to be able to get to
that state of even being able to pause and respond
rather than you know kind of jumping back in
response to something that's happening outside of
you Yeah it sounds like a lot of these methods are
about becoming present and getting out of your mind
all the racing thoughts and solving problems that
haven't even occurred yet or may not ever occur but
a lot of people their minds race and they're trying
to be ready for everything because they had trauma
Absolutely I think that the mind is our biggest
obstacle and I think that there is a self beyond
the mind which has a lot of answers for us I think
it has a sense of peace for us in terms of no
matter what's happening in our life that if we can
connect with the sense of self beyond the mind
we're going to be a lot less reactive But I do
think that taking care of our body because our body
does pick up the energy especially those of us in
this community were very empathic and we're very
sensitive people and we absorb you know what's
going on in the collective and we absorb what's
going on with our family members and our partners
And so it is very important to take care of our
bodies through diet and exercise and grounding and
intentional relaxation But you're absolutely right
that the mind is the biggest obstacle in terms of
finding a sense of peace a sense of clarity and a
sense of well being agreed And I think more and
more people are you know they're they're they're
they're making changes you know uh practices or
ideas that no longer serve them They're kind of
letting them drop That's why you see relationships
breaking up some too because idea the gap and
ideology has changed so much so I mean I see a lot
of what's happening there is turmoil but not
although that's what you would consider negative
like you said you know when two people sometimes
when they leave it's of service to both of them you
know we're also seeing people that are coming
together that have been doing the inner work that
are coming together as couples and you know being
quite dynamic together you know helping others So
there's that side of the point as well there are a
lot of people in this community that have done a
lot of work and should be commended on it but there
are many many many more who are just getting into
this community and are just starting to awaken and
uh when you start to awaken and new ideas come in
you know like if you're raised a christian and some
of these ideas come in that used to be witchcraft
or whatever you go through a process you have to
consciously you look at that and you feel guilty
you know you've got that inner you know programming
and you feel guilty you know you don't want to let
go of it and this is wrong you know you go through
a process of consciously saying okay I will accept
this into you know my consciousness and my belief
system and you know you bring that in and the other
things sort of fade away and you know that you know
there's guilt that goes along with that there's
uncertainty There are like family members who you
know put you on the prayer chain at church because
you're dabbling in witchcraft you know Uh so you
know how do you help people you know begin to I
know it's a person by person thing of course but
how do you tell me how do you get how do people get
perspective You know uh you know understanding that
they're going through this awakening that they're
all types of inner turmoils that are going to occur
Um how do we prepare people that are just getting
into this awakening process What they're going to
have to deal with what kind of doubts and
relationship issues Yeah yeah I do think although
it is an individual journey there are some general
um circumstances that happen to most people going
through this awakening process initially there's
often a sense of confusion overwhelm a lot of
varying emotions um Guilt and Anger are two very
common emotions that arise when people start
recognizing the reality of the world and what's
really been happening people can get very upset and
saddened by what's happening behind the scenes and
the way that humanity is being manipulated or has
been treated for a long time now And so there's a
certain amount of denial I think that occurs
initially that as people start opening their minds
to this new awareness this new information there's
a certain amount of not really wanting to believe
this is true kind of denying no this is this isn't
really real Uh and then as your mind kind of
continues to open um eventually you end up going
through sort of a grief process where you have to
grieve your old life your old understanding of the
way the world works And uh it can be it follows
some of the traditional stages of grief of you know
denial and anger and sadness and depression and and
you sort of begin to reconcile this new and
integrate this new awareness that you're you're
having this broadened awareness Um but the
beginning stages are very tumultuous And so I think
I think the best advice that I have is to just
normalize that it's very normal for people who are
starting to have these types of experiences are
really awakening It's very normal to feel like you
don't want to talk to people or you feel like you
want to isolate or you're having these strong waves
of emotion grief is one of those experiences that's
very unpredictable and it ebbs and flows It's not
very linear So one day you might be feeling fine
and pretty put together and then the next day you
might feel like you've been run over by a semi
truck that you just can hardly function and you're
just feeling completely overwhelmed with emotion
And so it goes back again to just trying to ride
the waves with compassion of the experience that
you're having Because you don't have a whole lot of
control especially I mean you can't go backwards
once you start opening these doors of awareness you
can't go back you can't go back to into ignorance
and that's the one of the hardest parts is dealing
with and integrating this new sense of awareness
Despite all the emotion that it brings up for you I
think that dealing with emotions is one of the most
challenging things that not only people in this
community deal with all people because our society
really teaches us that happiness is the healthy
normality And if you're not happy there's something
wrong with you or your broken and you probably
should be taking medication or you probably should
be doing something about it Whereas the truth is
being a human being you're here to experience a
broad range the whole spectrum right You're here to
experience the anguish and the grief and the
sadness because we don't experience that outside of
these bodies and that's what contracts us and helps
us to grow and evolve as spiritual beings And so my
encouragement is just allow yourself to have those
emotions without trying to suppress them or escape
them or ignore them because the more that you're
able to hold a space for whatever is coming up for
you the faster and more easily you're going to move
through this process whatever it looks like Yeah
that's beautiful That's great Um So was there any
were there any topics that you wanted to cover One
of the topics I think that would be important to
cover is the topic of self compassion Just I'll
bring that up Okay I'll lead into it and then you
can talk about it Okay let me just check my notes
really quick to to make sure that anything fun that
would be important Uh huh Uh Yeah Okay The other
thing that I'd like to talk about is just the
loneliness and isolation that a lot of people feel
in this community Um that's a good one Yeah because
that's something that I hear a lot about the people
just feel like they I feel really alone and nobody
understands them And then another thing that might
be helpful to mention is the concept of values
which is sort of identifying with the qualities of
being that you want to represent as a person It
really helps people give them kind of a stronger
sense of self and a compass to kind of guide them
through decisions or um different challenges in
their lives Okay so values And what was the one you
just set of values loneliness with the community
and self compassion Okay All right Mhm So many in
the community as they're starting to wake up they
feel very alone There's many people are in the
middle of cities that are not very high vibe you
may find a bookstore here and there but unless you
noted conferences and hook up with tribe on a
regular basis uh it can be you can feel very alone
in this process other than the internet other than
you know people you find on the internet How do you
counsel people that uh you know our feeling that
lonely Yeah that's a very very common experience
that people feel like they're misunderstood or they
can't talk to anyone especially people that they're
used to being close to their family members or even
their best friends They feel like they can't really
open up and be real with them because people might
think they're crazy or judge them And so it's a
very common occurrence that people feel a real
sense of loneliness and isolation And so this is
where the importance of the spiritual journey comes
into play because ultimately we're not ever alone
We're all interconnected We're all aspects of this
same one creator the same divine source of energy
or just reflections of each other So even the guy
at the gas gas station is just another reflection
of you who is also struggling who's also trying to
find their way And so the more that you can
continue to deepen your own spiritual practices and
spiritual discipline the more that the less you
feel alone because you know you you begin to
personally get in touch with that sense of
interconnectedness of life And so even when you
don't have anyone in your immediate vicinity who
completely understands the way you think or the
things that you want to talk about that that you
can feel connected to all life and all people
despite where they're at on their path And I do
think that it's helpful to connect online
communities and to go to the events and to try to
find other people that can help you grow and learn
by just Externalizing what it is that you're
thinking about or what it is that you're struggling
with You do get it who do understand But again it's
equally important to do that that inner work to
help you connect to that sense of you that knows
you're not allowed right Because especially here in
the third density we have this separation illusion
right We have this illusion that we're separate
from everything that we're separate from the divine
but that's truly an illusion And so the more that
we get connected to that sense of self that knows
the truth that loneliness starts to dissipate We
start to be less and less concerned about having
big groups of people around us and can find
connection in the smallest things you know with a
ladybug or with a stranger that smiles at us that
we remember that we're not alone and that were very
interconnected to everything that exists in life
Yeah I think a lot of people really don't
understand the concept of self worth Understanding
that you are a divine being You are a reflection of
the one infinite creator no matter you know when
you look in the mirror all of the variables that
you see everyone else sees those in themselves as
well You know you know we are unique reflections of
the one infinite creator and each of our
experiences is just as precious to the one infinite
creator as anyone else's embracing that You know I
think it's really an important part of claiming
self worth of who we are most definitely And I
think you know like quantum mechanics quantum
physics is really catching up to this idea giving
us scientific explanations which some minds seem to
need to really grasp ahold of things that you know
we are just a thread in the fabric of consciousness
you know so and I think you know that's another
important point that I'd like to make that a lot of
people get confused about the sense of purpose like
what am I doing and I'm not important and I have to
figure out what my part in all this is And the
truth is is that just by being the brightest light
that you can possibly be you are sending ripples
out into that fabric of consciousness and really
affecting it for the hall And so that is in my
opinion people's purpose especially within the
spiritual community is to do this inner work so
that you can be the brightest expression of your
own unique divine spark that you came to be So that
it inspires others to do the same and it also sends
ripples out into this fabric of consciousness thus
elevating it for all of us Yeah See I'm sorry what
was the third There was a third topic The third
topic was what we were going to talk about values
and self compassion Yeah Yeah Mhm Trying to think
how to set up So maybe lead into the self
compassion peace Just saying like that people who
continue to struggle with um that are feeling like
they're really battling with themselves to feel
worthy enough to do the work or um I mean that's
self compassion is a huge part of this is learning
to change the dialogue in your own head so that you
didn't feel worthy of being that spark Okay so
software Yeah So so forth Self compassion Yeah
Sorry Self compassion Yeah Okay so having a
compassion for others is usually pretty easy for
people in this community But how important is it to
have compassion for yourself Uh so that is critical
of compassion again goes back to you know if you
can't feel your own cup up it's going to be really
difficult to genuinely have compassion for other
people and that's something that we really struggle
with as human beings that we um there's A lot of
science actually going into self compassion over
the last I'd say 10-15 years I'm showing that it
can really help us to improve not only our mental
health but our physical health as well but human
minds tend to internalize the critical voices that
we heard during our upbringing and it becomes our
inner dialogue Or sometimes we will learn to kind
of criticize ourselves before someone else can do
it so that if somebody else does it it doesn't
sting as bad But the problem is that if we're
walking around criticizing ourselves all day long
it's difficult to be that bright shining light that
we're talking about being really stepping fully
into your purpose And so part of the path is really
learning to first and foremost pay attention to how
you're talking to yourself how you're treating
yourself most of us would treat especially in this
community would treat a homeless stranger with the
most kindness and care where we would dump on
ourselves for maybe making one teeny tiny little
mistake at work or at the wrong thing in a social
setting and we just like you know we rip on
ourselves for it Yeah and we really need to learn
to um turn that dialogue around that can completely
change your life I've seen the practice of self
compassion and not only change my own life but many
many people that I've worked with where you start
by just paying attention to how you talk to
yourself and what is the tone what you know what
what are you saying to yourself and how and is
there a way that you know maybe you can't jump to
being positive right away where it's like I'm
amazing and I love you and your great but maybe
it's just moving from a place of criticism to a
place of neutrality Like it's okay just let it Yeah
And some sometimes it's as simple The simple as
start is showing compassion to your inner child
I've I've said this recently in interviews you know
how many people in this community if there was a
child crying and hurt and upset in the next room
how many of you would not go into the next room to
comfort that child Right What makes your inner
child any less worthy of that type of nurturing and
comforting Absolutely So having people just begin
the process of nurturing and loving and accepting
their inner damaged child instead of not wanting to
look at that child in the eyes because of what it
brings up You know I think that's an essential part
of that process Yes And even just acknowledging
that that child is there just even acknowledging
that there is a scared wounded child in there that
was not treated as respectfully as you know
hopefully we might treat Children or other beings
and really acknowledging that there is some healing
some kindness and compassion that is owed to that
part of ourselves that um that really wasn't
treated the way that he or she should have been
treated Yeah Yeah Yeah I think uh continuing to try
to practice um being gentle with ourselves
acknowledging that all beings have pain and
suffering including ourselves that mistakes are
part of being human they're part of the human
process And especially in those moments offering
kindness to ourselves rather than criticism can
completely change how you relate to yourself your
mood and uh your sense of just inner strength If
you're not beating up on yourself all the time
you're going to feel a lot more trusting of
yourself walking through life rather than
constantly criticizing yourself about every little
move that you're making It's amazing how outwardly
were so sweet nice and giving to strangers around
us but to the person we're with all of the time
ourselves we're the most critical and uh
destructive you know critically destructive Yeah
Yeah Yeah Um where was there anything else you
wanted to talk about before I start winding down
The only other thing that I think might be
important is a values conversation So I think that
I've found them to be really helpful for people in
terms of just remembering who they are beyond their
programming Okay just having general values
becoming clear about what those values are for you
personally most people don't take the time to do
that So it can be very valuable in helping just
create a stronger sense of self Okay so depending
on your personality type you may have a different
level of code that you live by your values that are
unique to you How important is it Uh when you
counsel people uh to get them to really focus on
their values and to see if you know there are part
of the problem or you know something that they
should find too values can be an excellent tool to
help you gain clarity about who it is that you want
to be moving through life and how you want to be
remembered by other people They can help you to
make big decisions in your life They can help you
again to be more selective in terms of the
relationships that you invite or do not invite into
your life and most people don't take the time to
really evaluate what those values are Your values
are essentially qualities of living that you uphold
as a person and at the end of your life people are
not going to remember you know the car that you
drove or the letters behind your name they're going
to remember that you were kind and you are creative
and you are reliable and so taking some time to
really reflect on what those core values are for
You can be very helpful in terms of strengthening
your sense of self and really remembering who you
are before the programming So before you know your
parents and your peers and society started you know
putting these ideas or beliefs into your um into
your cognition These are the qualities that you
uphold as a person they're really at your core who
you are And so there are lots of activities that
you can do You can just look online for value
search and really think about what those core
values might be for you Another easy way to think
about what your values are is to think about
somebody that you really respect in your life that
you really look up to that you that you value and
to think about what are the qualities that that
person emanates and um can I move in the direction
of those qualities as well So your values can serve
as a blueprint a compass of swords to help you
guide yourself when things are confusing when you
do feel lost when you feel like you have lost a
sense of who you truly are they can help us
remember what's important and what direction we do
want to be moving in Great So Hang on a 2nd All
right so a lot of people in the audience right now
are they're ready to go They want to start dealing
with traumas working on karma from the past um and
some of them are ready to rent a cabin go have a
weekend of crying and sobbing and rocking you know
and uh how do we how do we really make it very
clear that when you're starting to visit traumas a
lot of things can come out a lot of emotion a lot
more can come out than you expect It's like
Pandora's box when you do with trump Um how
important is it that you have a trained licensed
psychologist or psychiatrist help you through this
process It's it's very very helpful if you know I
would I would highly recommend it in my of course
biased opinion But um you're right that when you
start really delving into your own shadows it can
become overwhelming emotions can surface that you
didn't even know existed Ideas or memories can come
up that um you're having difficulty digesting and
making sense of which can interfere with your
ability to function during the day And so it is
recommended that you use the safe container of a
counselor or um you know a shaman or you know
someone who can really hold the space for you to
hell and unpack some of these things so that you're
not doing it alone And part of that process can be
very difficult to do alone because sometimes we
can't get that perspective from within Sometimes we
have to have someone there who's saying well have
you thought about it this way or maybe you know if
you if you move in this direction that you would
have a different experience Um and again it can
feel very overwhelming doing it alone Um there is a
organization called disclosure support and they
list all counselors who are aware of what most of
us are aware of in this community and Vivian Davis
is heading up that organization I'm also part of it
and one of the counselors that's on the list and so
if you felt like you wanted to go ahead and dive in
and do the deeper work I would recommend that you
look at some of the practitioners um a lot of them
will offer online sessions I myself also offer
online because I know that um it can be challenging
to find a counselor who isn't going to judge you
isn't going to say that you're crazy if you're
having experiences with other beings or you're
having new insights and awareness is um but yes it
can be very challenging to do without additional
support Yeah absolutely that is great that we're
starting to get networks more and more together of
mental health professionals that are more
consciously open you know uh and it's equally as
equally as awesome that there are online sessions
that people can have because it can be daunting
trying and intimidating trying to find a counselor
Mhm especially if you're looking through the
haystack trying to find that needle you know of a
highly conscious counselor having the ability to
schedule them and do them remotely is very
convenient and it allows you a lot you know a lot
more chance at success of finding that type of
counselor So I'm glad that people like you are
offering these sessions online Yeah absolutely One
additional thing that I'd like to say though is
that a lot of people have fear around their
emotions and really opening that can of worms But
the truth is is that your higher self or the true
being that you are has the capacity to hold
whatever emotional experiences that you're having
here in this three D existence And so even though
it feels very overwhelming it can feel very intense
at times There is some of the work that you can do
safely on your own by really just being rather than
doing more you know and that's sort of the
conversation around um you know masculinity versus
femininity in a society of do do do go go go
succeed you know more and more and more where as if
we can just slow down and focus on being more
present with ourselves and our emotions and really
holding space for them without the fear the fear
that we're going to lose it or something really bad
is going to happen is often just a thought that our
mind is having whereas if we can sit with the
emotion and breathe into it and create a space for
it Oftentimes we can navigate it Um and even if you
could meet with a counselor for a few times to
really learn how to walk through that process there
is a lot of the work that you can do on your own
and your emotions are they're not going to kill you
even though they seem very overwhelming very
intense Um You are very capable of holding a space
for them and the more so that you can surrender to
that process the faster they're going to transmute
into something else Well um if and I appreciate it
thank you Dr mckinnon Um if people want to look
into your work more possibly even schedule a
session with you what's the best way for them to
contact you or to become more familiar with your
work Yeah so you can check out my website it's a
flourish with Star dot com with two R's so that's
flourish with Star and you can see a little bit
about what I offer and message me directly through
my website and if you're looking for somebody who
is closer to you I can try to connect you with
other providers who might be closer to your area Um
Some of us are credential by insurance panels so
they can be covered by your insurance which is an
added plus but there's always complications with
the whole insurance structures as well Um But a lot
of people will offer sliding fees so yeah I just
feel free to reach out to me and if I can't
personally help you or if I can't personally fit
you in I'd be happy to try to help guide you in the
right direction Well some where are you located I'm
in san Diego California san Diego Okay well dr
mckinnon thank you so much for joining me This has
been a wonderful conversation I'm looking forward
to uh seeing how the audience responds We covered a
lot of a lot of the symptoms and just energetic
friction that a lot of us are feeling and going
through through our own awakening and growing
process and also through relationships as we awaken
and growth I really appreciate it and I look
forward to speaking with you again soon Yes and
thank you so much Courtney for allowing me to be a
part of this process and be a part of all of your
process as well Thank you very much Thanks Corey
and thank you for joining us on accelerating
ascension where we're taking a holistic approach to
the mind body spirit complex bringing it into full
alignment so we can be effective star seeds We can
be effective in the mission that we came here for
Thank you Goodbye
Goode And today I'm with Dr Star Mckinnon I have
her on location She is calling in remote via zoom
and uh I'm very happy to have you here today with
this star Thank you Very happy to be here Thank you
Do you mind giving a little bit of your background
Sure So I I've always been interested in everything
esoteric and spiritual I was raised in a very not
religious non spiritual household but was drawn to
it even from a young child and I struggle with
addiction as a teen and and young adult which
really pushed me into some pretty dark places Uh
And when I emerged from that I started my own
awakening process I decided to go back to school
and get my degree in psychology ended up getting a
doctorate in psychology Yeah and in the midst of my
graduate training I a lot of different experiences
with a lot of different types of people What I was
also continuing to go through my own awakening
process Um I lost my brother suddenly and then I
also um just out of graduate school ended up
getting a very rare and kind of aggressive form of
cancer that I was able to heal Um what the doctors
say spontaneously with um with spiritual practices
diet and just completely turning my life around
which then really kind of opened my awakening
process to a new level and then I shifted my
practice focus to helping those who are going
through the awakening process because it can be
such a confusing and often lonely process and there
just are not very many resources available That's
amazing Um You know it may not surprise some people
watching but most health care professionals I find
looking at my linkedin profile um often they end up
contacting me later and asking me can you you know
talk with my patient and let them know that you
know this is not reality you know Uh and there you
know and the person is going through an awakening
and is looking for genuine help So finding mental
health professionals out there that are not going
to label a person you know as some sort of mental
mentally ill person if they come to them with this
type of information is essential So it is great
that there are therapists out there that have that
you Yeah I actually have encountered supervisors
who wanted to diagnose people as psychotic or
needed to be on medication for having thickening
type of experiences and Exactly yeah So it's it's a
challenge in the mental health community Yeah Well
just imagine if I went and talked about the eight
ft blue birds that I've been seeing it might be in
a rubber room right now Yeah Uh um Yeah I mean the
awakening process is you know it is confusing on
its own you start going down all of these rabbit
holes Um but also right now this ascension process
What's going on You know there's I mean you have to
see it more than anyone else People are acting
strange Their relationships are having major issues
and many of them are falling apart People that have
just what were minor you know uh personality
distortions or you know issues there being you know
you know magnified many many times Is this
something that you've noticed in your practice
Absolutely I'm seeing a huge increase in just
overall acuity of mental health symptoms a lot of
relationship difficulties a lot of um life sort of
midlife crisis type of what am I doing with myself
and what is life really all about A lot of increase
in suicidality People are feeling like they're at
their breaking point that they feel like they
really can't cope with Um the society that we're
all living in seeing a huge increase in that
unfortunately Um most definitely over the less I'd
say 2 to 3 years there's been a substantial
increase in just the significance of the mental
health symptoms themselves Have psychologists and
psychiatrists attributed that to anything I mean
didn't increase the spine You know there is a lot
of chatter about it in the community when I I did
some of my post doctoral training at a local
university here in SAn Diego And there was just a
market increase in um psychotic symptoms and
suicidality and depression and anxiety and people
were scratching their heads really trying to make
sense of what was going on Um and they really um
they don't have a good explanation for it I mean I
think those of us in the awakening community know
that you know there are heightened energies coming
into a planet at this time that's really
exacerbating what's there Um but but I would say
the majority of the mental health community don't
know what's going on and are just trying to meet
the demands of the increase in referrals into their
practices and a lot of what you're seeing the
behavior the changes in the way people are thinking
doesn't have anything to do with their past traumas
and karma Is it tied to that most often Because
that usually seems to be the root of you know
everything is that hidden uh you know damaged inner
child most definitely I think as more light is
coming to our planet I think the shadows are
surfacing and most often that's the result of
childhood traumas things that have been suppressed
Things that people may not have even been aware of
that they wouldn't have even considered traumas are
coming up there showing up a lot of times in
relationship with other people they're realizing
that they are acting in ways that they don't feel
good about or that are really damaging to other
people Um but yes most definitely yeah I guess um
you know a lot of it uh you know what I've seen
with relationships we've seen relationships all
over the place going through this and I think the
ones that you know survive or the people that are
close to being to the same laboratory level you
know development and consciousness But in some of
the relationships with the gap is so far apart or
that you know some of the traumas are so intense
you know you know you're seeing these relationships
you know coming to an end Yes Yeah we're seeing a
lot of that We're seeing a lot of people who are
awakening and their partner is sort of not taking
the same path and there is a pretty substantial gap
between those two partners where one feels
completely misunderstood and the other feels like
they just cannot grasp where the other partner is
headed But similarly even partners who are at the
same laboratory frequency Um they also have a
tendency to sort of trigger or reflect aspects of
each other that can stir things up just as much as
those who are sort of differing a vibrational
frequencies So relationships really play a big key
in terms of our growth and our own understanding of
ourselves and this whole ascension process as a
whole agreed Yeah I think that you know a lot of
you know you're right we completely mirror off of
each other most of us uh especially in this
community most of us are pretty close to being on
the same vibe but the people were with now for
those out there there are many out there that have
gone through rapid awakenings and rapid growth and
they're still with a spouse or someone who they're
not abusive you know they're they're fine you know
they think what you're looking at the stuff you're
getting into quirky little strange maybe they're
praying for you Sheena who knows How do you counsel
people to interact with that spouse or significant
other in a way that is healthy Like you know
instead of there being an emotional exchange you
know how do you you know counsel them on teaching
them to communicate in a way that's in exchange of
ideas and there's mutual respect and giving the
person may be little breadcrumbs so they can grow
as well That's a challenging question that I think
often differs person by person relationship by
relationship just because relationship dynamics are
so unique but I would say at the best advice I have
is to have compassion for wherever your partner is
on their path whether it's at the completely
opposite end of where you are or whether they're
you know sort of close or maybe a little bit behind
where you are or even ahead of where you are I
think we have to recognize that we're all walking
our own path in this grand scheme of all heading in
the same direction We have to have compassion for
people who may not be ready to have um to be
looking at certain types of information or new
insights their consciousness is not ready for it as
I'm sure many of us have experienced trying to drop
those red crumbs at the thanksgiving dinner table
doesn't always go as well as we hoped it would go
in Even our very close romantic partners are close
friends oftentimes their consciousness or their
psyche is not prepared to really digest and
integrate that type of information And so I would
also suggest that we just lead by example and
people notice that those of us walking through this
process and beginning to awaken our living more
peacefully We're riding the waves of the chaos of
what's happening in our world a little bit more
successfully And so people ask how do you do it You
know how are you staying scene right now when
there's so much chaos and conflict going on and
then that's when they're open when they asked when
they recognize that we're sort of not you know
we're buffered in some ways by not getting so
hooked into all the chaos and negativity And that's
when they're really open to you know digesting more
of that information rather than us trying to plant
it for them That is really good advice You know
being an example You know it sounds like a small
thing but people when they see your peace and your
calm we're paying attention to your habits and what
you're doing and you know and that is the most
loving way to try to influence them because if we
start trying to plant thieves we can risk becoming
manipulative and uh and making them feel like
they're being manipulated being frustrated you know
like they're not listening or they're not getting
it when their psyche is really just not ready for
it yet And if you're being an example well to be an
example you have to go within and you know do all
the work so you'll be doing the right thing anyway
So you know there's a lot of talk about being
service to others and serviced itself but you
really have to be a little bit selfish Sometimes
you have to guard your energy from those who
manipulate or control you or you won't have energy
for this mission that we feel like we're here for
Absolutely I would totally agree It's a balance
between uh sort of self care and self love self
compassion really filling yourself up so that you
can be of service to others in the greatest way
possible that you came to be Okay Thank you hang on
just a second Some giant drilling get started
Perfect timing That's really loud high end but okay
Yeah it just stopped Let me start up again Okay
sorry about that No problem Remember what we were
talking about We're talking about the balance
between services self service other self care Um
doing inner work so that we can be examples for
other people So I think a lot of people in this
community where light workers we feel like we have
to be constant murders and constantly turning the
other cheek Um for I'm sorry and I got really
distracted What was it that we just talked about We
were talking about service to self or others Yeah
self care and really being an example for others Mm
hmm So a lot of a lot of the people in this
community they're focused on being service to
others and focusing on themselves taking care of
themselves Mind body and spirit You know you have
to have a good psyche A nice healthy psyche
spiritually You have to have your consciousness you
know to be clean and clear You have to spend time
meditation and other spiritual practices You have
your body You know you have to uh you know take the
right supplements if you need to eat the right
types of foods drink you know pure water source uh
you know exercise and ground into your body So
having you know having people realize that they do
need to focus on themselves and not constantly be
worried about having to be of service to others
Sometimes being service to yourself gives you more
bandwidth if you if you spend a little time solving
a couple Um you know traumas that you've had you
know working on traumas and releasing that energy
You know like people have heard me talk before our
mind segments those little traumas and keeps them
at bay so that we don't have to they don't pop into
our consciousness and you know once we deal with
those issues we're opening up our bandwidth That
little little piece of processing power can now go
towards the rest of of your consciousness So the
more you deal with your traumas the more you get
yourself into a a clean and healthy lifestyle and
mental state you're going to be much more effective
in being of service to others I would absolutely
agree I think that's something that is very common
in the awakening community that they're giving so
much so to others or to humanity as a whole that
they are disregarding their own needs and they end
up having health issues or mental health types of
breakdowns panic attacks things like that because
they're over extending their own capacity to be of
service And so first and foremost you do have to do
that work You do have to learn to connect with
yourself and heal yourself in a way that you may
have not done before so that you don't get so
drained by being available or being of service to
other people And so that's critically important is
that that balance even for myself who I work with
people all day every day where I am of service to
others you know throughout my entire day I start my
day with a extensive self care routine so that I
feel myself up completely and I do I am very
conscientious about body movement and what I'm
eating and my meditation is my priority first thing
in the morning and if I don't put myself first and
I'm not able to follow my path of being of service
to others and so there really is a very delicate
balance there and part of it is just awareness of
how am I doing today Do I need a little extra rest
Do I need a little walk today Do I need some
sunshine Do I need to take a day off You know do I
need to eat something that's more invigorating for
my body A lot of this process is about self
awareness slowing down and just paying attention a
little bit more agreed and a part of being the
martyr is also going back to relationships you know
you're not going to be able to get to a good vibe
Batory state or even maintain one if you have you
know you know family relationships close by I mean
our work relationships friendships to where people
are energy vampires or uh there they manipulate and
you know a lot of uh people in the light worker
community a lot of times they'll end up with people
that are similar in the band width of narcissism
you know they end up having to deal with that So
it's important also that people in the light worker
community realize that they do have to put up
boundaries they do have to guard their own energy A
part of self care and self love is uh demanding
respect from others You know the same respect that
they would want Um you know a lot of people they
turn the other cheek so much or they have so much
in life that you know it I think that it's
incredibly important that people become empowered
to put up boundaries that are needed to guard their
energy uh selfishly because that energy is what
you're using to do this wider mission It is what
you use to be service to others Um how do you
suggest people that are in relationships with you
know different bandwidth narcissists and other
types of people that drain your energy Um you know
how how do you recommend that people you know put
those boundaries up when they've not really done
that before and that's another challenging
situation And I would answer similarly that it
starts with our relationship with ourselves and so
if we can learn to really develop a strong loving
connection with ourselves that we do not tolerate
those types of boundary violations as easily
anymore It's really interesting because when I
start to work with people and they start to really
love and value and respect themselves they really
start to realize that those relationships aren't
working for them they don't tolerate them it's
easier to say no and oftentimes by saying no you're
saying yes to yourself And so and it's in the
service of both people So I think that's one
misunderstanding that people have is that by saying
no is being mean in some way or you know not being
caring whereas a lot of times it's the most caring
thing that you can do for yourself and the other
person is to say no or even to distance yourself
from that person I think a lot of people especially
those in the awakening process have had very
difficult upbringings with often parents that were
not always the kindest And so there's a conflict
between having these parents in their life still
while trying to heal and love and care for
themselves And sometimes people do end up having to
really take a step back from their family members
in an effort to fully heal and to be able to be
more engaged with them and to be able to hold those
boundaries more firmly So I think in some my answer
is that you know first and foremost you need to do
your own work you need to do the work to heal and
care for yourself and really develop a loving
respectful relationship with yourself so that it's
not a challenge to say no When you notice someone
is crossing a line for you when you notice
somebody's being disrespectful that it's not easier
in a kind way to say I'm sorry you know that that
doesn't work for me or I'm sorry I'm going to
choose not to participate or I need some space for
me today I'll check in with you later It becomes
much easier when you have that sense of connection
with yourself Yeah I agree That's great You know
that's um you know I've seen I just it's when you
were talking it it put me off onto another thought
process Thinking of all of these beautiful white
workers that I've met that have some level of self
loathing It's really heartbreaking because you know
these are divine beings that came down here on a
mission and forgot who they were to do this machine
you know two and they went they picked this crappy
life before they came in And that upsets people
When I say that whole contract you came in and all
of these crappy things that occurred occurred to
train you to be the type of person you needed to be
to carry on the mission that you agreed to having
people realize that you know you're not an
alcoholic you're not a rape victim you're not a
this or that that's just what happened to you
That's just a part of your experience Don't
identify the minute you identify with those traumas
you give them even more energy than they really
would have had before and it gives them a whole new
right It leads into your life place when you tell
the person I'm with this Well you set up in their
consciousness a certain type of perception of
yourself and a lot of times you'll set up kind of
self fulfilled prophesies or situations you know Um
so I don't know I just did something that's broken
my heart quite a bit to see so many of these
wonderful white workers that have such a you know a
self loathing you know feeling Absolutely and
that's I think that's a lot of the work that I do
with people is sort of the unwired ring or the un
programming of some of the things that they've
begun to believe about themselves as a result of
the experiences that they've had in their life And
I firmly believe that everything is here to serve
us even the most horrific experiences can serve us
in some way And I also agree with you that we came
into these lifetimes designing a tumultuous path
especially so here in the spiritual community to
crack us open to wake us up because in a
comfortable life the egos never shaken up we never
start to question we never go into those deep dark
places that transform us And so if we stay in that
darkness stone we identify with it and we turn some
of that programming you know that we received from
our family or even society about not being good
enough because we're not this or that way we can
get stuck in those loops And so a lot of the
beginning of this journey is really unwinding kind
of peeling back all these things that you've picked
up along the way that aren't really you and as you
start to peel these layers back you just feel
lighter and lighter and lighter and more connected
and more clear about who you really are and what
you're here to do another people get stuck in and I
actually was trapped in it myself you know up until
a little while a little while ago because of all of
the crazy attacks that are going on the victim
mentality when you uh when you've had a lot of
trauma a lot of whether it be mental you know you
know I had four family members pass away threw me
into a state all of the attacks and everything Um
sorry what what what was I got distracted again
There's some it's okay I'm getting wrapped up in
the victim mentality Okay mm So I've had you know I
had a lot of people you know that we're passing
away and it was it was very difficult uh then all
of these people attacking us online and I've had
you know just a lot of issues most people know
what's going on and you know I was really starting
to get into the victim mentality and pointing my
finger at everyone else but finally it clicked with
me that I can't control everyone else I can't
control myself and when I realized that you know
some of the problems I was running into you know
were self inflicted or some of the problems we're
not as bad as I thought they were I was just
internalizing them too much or focusing on them and
getting myself into a a state Um so you know the
victim mentality you have to get out of that if
you're going to you know get you know to a point to
where you can make any headway and clearing because
um yeah it's all about self responsibility
accepting responsibility for the things that you've
done that can be very difficult especially with
some of them are traumatic you know Um So the
victim mentality has I have also seen along with
self loathing quite a bit in this community What
what are some of the ways that you try to snap
people out of it or is that they have to come out
of it on their own There's definitely ways that you
can facilitate that process more quickly remove out
of that Um Yeah I mean first and foremost it's
about paying attention it's about really paying
attention to how you talk to yourself I think the
number one important thing to remember what you've
already mentioned is that you're in control So
you're in control of where you focus your attention
and your perception of how you interpret the way
that your life is unfolding So one person can see a
certain circumstances completely different from the
way somebody else sees it and you are the one who
has the power to decide how you're going to respond
to that The problem is is that you know 95% of
people are reacting based on the programming that
they you know sort of um take it on based on their
upbringing rather than responding consciously And
so part of coming out of some of these different
traps that we fall into is about becoming more
responsive to life And so we have to start by first
and foremost paying more attention slowing down
paying more attention to what our mind is giving us
What is our mind telling us How are we talking to
ourselves So it's really just a matter of stepping
back and just paying more attention to what am I
thinking How is it making me feel how is it making
me respond And it's definitely a process that you
have to be patient with yourself through because
we're used to living a certain way we're used to
just living in a lot of automatic response and
behaviors And so um that's really the beginning of
it is learning to live more mindfully And there's a
practice called mindfulness where you actually
learn to pay attention to what your mind is telling
you rather than living from what your mind is
telling you which gives you that little bit of
space in there to choose differently Oh that's a
helpful thought or that thoughts not quite true or
let me let me just sit back before I decide how to
respond before I jump in And so that's really first
and foremost the beginning is just awareness of
what your mind is telling you what you're
programming actually is What are some of the same
tapes and stories that play out in your head that
are affecting the way that you're reacting rather
than responding And then once you practice that
long enough you create enough of a gap that you can
choose differently And that's where the compassion
peace comes in as well is that you get to choose
which thoughts are serving you which thoughts you
want to buy into and really let the rest go without
getting hooked into them Because you know where
that leads you know a lot of us kind of follow
those same tapes that play out over and over again
and we wonder why we're in the same position with
the same life circumstances Whereas if we can slow
down and pay attention and respond differently and
we have a lot of choice and a lot more freedom and
just live more peacefully because we don't get as
hooked into some of those beliefs and thoughts that
I would say probably like the majority are not true
The majority of what our mind offers us is not true
unless we stop to examine them We're going to be
living in that type of victim mentality in that
reactive type of consciousness that reactive that
that leads me right to the next thing many people
who have had a lot of trauma because of it unbelted
with trauma they have the reactionary it can be
reactionary Um and a lot of people in this
community have been through traumas and there's the
crazy energies right now a lot of people that are
reactionary um how do we snap You know people out
of being reactionary they're going to be people
that are watching this right now that whether it be
about the current president or a different country
a different ideology that just sets them off uh you
know something like that or you know people that
are just right now completely they're just frazzled
How do we you know when when people come in and you
they know that they're having a problem and they
come to you and they're they're frazzled in a
reactionary state How do we start grounding them Uh
and so they can realize that they're in a
reactionary state and begin to focus on taking care
of it Yeah that's a great question and oftentimes
the work can't even begin until we can help people
to unravel their completely overstimulated nervous
systems people are living in a state or fight or
flight there are just waiting for the next argument
And so part of you know sometimes the initial
process before we can even dig into the deeper work
is to help people to slow down and relax And part
of it is just taking care of your body So exercise
is a great way to discharge some of that excess
sympathetic or stress activity that's stuck in the
muscle tissues in the body Breath work can be
incredibly powerful The mind always criticizes
breathwork because it seems so simple but it's
great It's great I've just started delving into it
amazed just the different breed practices how it
can change your state Um it completely changes your
state it completely changes your mood And so just
by shifting the way that you breathe and just your
awareness of your breath during the day can change
a lot in terms of your reactivity and how stressed
you feel how you sleep how your body functions
etcetera As you mentioned earlier grounding is a
very helpful technique which can include er thing
so you know connecting to the earth connecting to
nature Those are very grounding things But really
just helping yourself feel safe now in your body
through different types of relaxation techniques is
going to be very important to help you be less
reactive to think more clearly to be able to get to
that state of even being able to pause and respond
rather than you know kind of jumping back in
response to something that's happening outside of
you Yeah it sounds like a lot of these methods are
about becoming present and getting out of your mind
all the racing thoughts and solving problems that
haven't even occurred yet or may not ever occur but
a lot of people their minds race and they're trying
to be ready for everything because they had trauma
Absolutely I think that the mind is our biggest
obstacle and I think that there is a self beyond
the mind which has a lot of answers for us I think
it has a sense of peace for us in terms of no
matter what's happening in our life that if we can
connect with the sense of self beyond the mind
we're going to be a lot less reactive But I do
think that taking care of our body because our body
does pick up the energy especially those of us in
this community were very empathic and we're very
sensitive people and we absorb you know what's
going on in the collective and we absorb what's
going on with our family members and our partners
And so it is very important to take care of our
bodies through diet and exercise and grounding and
intentional relaxation But you're absolutely right
that the mind is the biggest obstacle in terms of
finding a sense of peace a sense of clarity and a
sense of well being agreed And I think more and
more people are you know they're they're they're
they're making changes you know uh practices or
ideas that no longer serve them They're kind of
letting them drop That's why you see relationships
breaking up some too because idea the gap and
ideology has changed so much so I mean I see a lot
of what's happening there is turmoil but not
although that's what you would consider negative
like you said you know when two people sometimes
when they leave it's of service to both of them you
know we're also seeing people that are coming
together that have been doing the inner work that
are coming together as couples and you know being
quite dynamic together you know helping others So
there's that side of the point as well there are a
lot of people in this community that have done a
lot of work and should be commended on it but there
are many many many more who are just getting into
this community and are just starting to awaken and
uh when you start to awaken and new ideas come in
you know like if you're raised a christian and some
of these ideas come in that used to be witchcraft
or whatever you go through a process you have to
consciously you look at that and you feel guilty
you know you've got that inner you know programming
and you feel guilty you know you don't want to let
go of it and this is wrong you know you go through
a process of consciously saying okay I will accept
this into you know my consciousness and my belief
system and you know you bring that in and the other
things sort of fade away and you know that you know
there's guilt that goes along with that there's
uncertainty There are like family members who you
know put you on the prayer chain at church because
you're dabbling in witchcraft you know Uh so you
know how do you help people you know begin to I
know it's a person by person thing of course but
how do you tell me how do you get how do people get
perspective You know uh you know understanding that
they're going through this awakening that they're
all types of inner turmoils that are going to occur
Um how do we prepare people that are just getting
into this awakening process What they're going to
have to deal with what kind of doubts and
relationship issues Yeah yeah I do think although
it is an individual journey there are some general
um circumstances that happen to most people going
through this awakening process initially there's
often a sense of confusion overwhelm a lot of
varying emotions um Guilt and Anger are two very
common emotions that arise when people start
recognizing the reality of the world and what's
really been happening people can get very upset and
saddened by what's happening behind the scenes and
the way that humanity is being manipulated or has
been treated for a long time now And so there's a
certain amount of denial I think that occurs
initially that as people start opening their minds
to this new awareness this new information there's
a certain amount of not really wanting to believe
this is true kind of denying no this is this isn't
really real Uh and then as your mind kind of
continues to open um eventually you end up going
through sort of a grief process where you have to
grieve your old life your old understanding of the
way the world works And uh it can be it follows
some of the traditional stages of grief of you know
denial and anger and sadness and depression and and
you sort of begin to reconcile this new and
integrate this new awareness that you're you're
having this broadened awareness Um but the
beginning stages are very tumultuous And so I think
I think the best advice that I have is to just
normalize that it's very normal for people who are
starting to have these types of experiences are
really awakening It's very normal to feel like you
don't want to talk to people or you feel like you
want to isolate or you're having these strong waves
of emotion grief is one of those experiences that's
very unpredictable and it ebbs and flows It's not
very linear So one day you might be feeling fine
and pretty put together and then the next day you
might feel like you've been run over by a semi
truck that you just can hardly function and you're
just feeling completely overwhelmed with emotion
And so it goes back again to just trying to ride
the waves with compassion of the experience that
you're having Because you don't have a whole lot of
control especially I mean you can't go backwards
once you start opening these doors of awareness you
can't go back you can't go back to into ignorance
and that's the one of the hardest parts is dealing
with and integrating this new sense of awareness
Despite all the emotion that it brings up for you I
think that dealing with emotions is one of the most
challenging things that not only people in this
community deal with all people because our society
really teaches us that happiness is the healthy
normality And if you're not happy there's something
wrong with you or your broken and you probably
should be taking medication or you probably should
be doing something about it Whereas the truth is
being a human being you're here to experience a
broad range the whole spectrum right You're here to
experience the anguish and the grief and the
sadness because we don't experience that outside of
these bodies and that's what contracts us and helps
us to grow and evolve as spiritual beings And so my
encouragement is just allow yourself to have those
emotions without trying to suppress them or escape
them or ignore them because the more that you're
able to hold a space for whatever is coming up for
you the faster and more easily you're going to move
through this process whatever it looks like Yeah
that's beautiful That's great Um So was there any
were there any topics that you wanted to cover One
of the topics I think that would be important to
cover is the topic of self compassion Just I'll
bring that up Okay I'll lead into it and then you
can talk about it Okay let me just check my notes
really quick to to make sure that anything fun that
would be important Uh huh Uh Yeah Okay The other
thing that I'd like to talk about is just the
loneliness and isolation that a lot of people feel
in this community Um that's a good one Yeah because
that's something that I hear a lot about the people
just feel like they I feel really alone and nobody
understands them And then another thing that might
be helpful to mention is the concept of values
which is sort of identifying with the qualities of
being that you want to represent as a person It
really helps people give them kind of a stronger
sense of self and a compass to kind of guide them
through decisions or um different challenges in
their lives Okay so values And what was the one you
just set of values loneliness with the community
and self compassion Okay All right Mhm So many in
the community as they're starting to wake up they
feel very alone There's many people are in the
middle of cities that are not very high vibe you
may find a bookstore here and there but unless you
noted conferences and hook up with tribe on a
regular basis uh it can be you can feel very alone
in this process other than the internet other than
you know people you find on the internet How do you
counsel people that uh you know our feeling that
lonely Yeah that's a very very common experience
that people feel like they're misunderstood or they
can't talk to anyone especially people that they're
used to being close to their family members or even
their best friends They feel like they can't really
open up and be real with them because people might
think they're crazy or judge them And so it's a
very common occurrence that people feel a real
sense of loneliness and isolation And so this is
where the importance of the spiritual journey comes
into play because ultimately we're not ever alone
We're all interconnected We're all aspects of this
same one creator the same divine source of energy
or just reflections of each other So even the guy
at the gas gas station is just another reflection
of you who is also struggling who's also trying to
find their way And so the more that you can
continue to deepen your own spiritual practices and
spiritual discipline the more that the less you
feel alone because you know you you begin to
personally get in touch with that sense of
interconnectedness of life And so even when you
don't have anyone in your immediate vicinity who
completely understands the way you think or the
things that you want to talk about that that you
can feel connected to all life and all people
despite where they're at on their path And I do
think that it's helpful to connect online
communities and to go to the events and to try to
find other people that can help you grow and learn
by just Externalizing what it is that you're
thinking about or what it is that you're struggling
with You do get it who do understand But again it's
equally important to do that that inner work to
help you connect to that sense of you that knows
you're not allowed right Because especially here in
the third density we have this separation illusion
right We have this illusion that we're separate
from everything that we're separate from the divine
but that's truly an illusion And so the more that
we get connected to that sense of self that knows
the truth that loneliness starts to dissipate We
start to be less and less concerned about having
big groups of people around us and can find
connection in the smallest things you know with a
ladybug or with a stranger that smiles at us that
we remember that we're not alone and that were very
interconnected to everything that exists in life
Yeah I think a lot of people really don't
understand the concept of self worth Understanding
that you are a divine being You are a reflection of
the one infinite creator no matter you know when
you look in the mirror all of the variables that
you see everyone else sees those in themselves as
well You know you know we are unique reflections of
the one infinite creator and each of our
experiences is just as precious to the one infinite
creator as anyone else's embracing that You know I
think it's really an important part of claiming
self worth of who we are most definitely And I
think you know like quantum mechanics quantum
physics is really catching up to this idea giving
us scientific explanations which some minds seem to
need to really grasp ahold of things that you know
we are just a thread in the fabric of consciousness
you know so and I think you know that's another
important point that I'd like to make that a lot of
people get confused about the sense of purpose like
what am I doing and I'm not important and I have to
figure out what my part in all this is And the
truth is is that just by being the brightest light
that you can possibly be you are sending ripples
out into that fabric of consciousness and really
affecting it for the hall And so that is in my
opinion people's purpose especially within the
spiritual community is to do this inner work so
that you can be the brightest expression of your
own unique divine spark that you came to be So that
it inspires others to do the same and it also sends
ripples out into this fabric of consciousness thus
elevating it for all of us Yeah See I'm sorry what
was the third There was a third topic The third
topic was what we were going to talk about values
and self compassion Yeah Yeah Mhm Trying to think
how to set up So maybe lead into the self
compassion peace Just saying like that people who
continue to struggle with um that are feeling like
they're really battling with themselves to feel
worthy enough to do the work or um I mean that's
self compassion is a huge part of this is learning
to change the dialogue in your own head so that you
didn't feel worthy of being that spark Okay so
software Yeah So so forth Self compassion Yeah
Sorry Self compassion Yeah Okay so having a
compassion for others is usually pretty easy for
people in this community But how important is it to
have compassion for yourself Uh so that is critical
of compassion again goes back to you know if you
can't feel your own cup up it's going to be really
difficult to genuinely have compassion for other
people and that's something that we really struggle
with as human beings that we um there's A lot of
science actually going into self compassion over
the last I'd say 10-15 years I'm showing that it
can really help us to improve not only our mental
health but our physical health as well but human
minds tend to internalize the critical voices that
we heard during our upbringing and it becomes our
inner dialogue Or sometimes we will learn to kind
of criticize ourselves before someone else can do
it so that if somebody else does it it doesn't
sting as bad But the problem is that if we're
walking around criticizing ourselves all day long
it's difficult to be that bright shining light that
we're talking about being really stepping fully
into your purpose And so part of the path is really
learning to first and foremost pay attention to how
you're talking to yourself how you're treating
yourself most of us would treat especially in this
community would treat a homeless stranger with the
most kindness and care where we would dump on
ourselves for maybe making one teeny tiny little
mistake at work or at the wrong thing in a social
setting and we just like you know we rip on
ourselves for it Yeah and we really need to learn
to um turn that dialogue around that can completely
change your life I've seen the practice of self
compassion and not only change my own life but many
many people that I've worked with where you start
by just paying attention to how you talk to
yourself and what is the tone what you know what
what are you saying to yourself and how and is
there a way that you know maybe you can't jump to
being positive right away where it's like I'm
amazing and I love you and your great but maybe
it's just moving from a place of criticism to a
place of neutrality Like it's okay just let it Yeah
And some sometimes it's as simple The simple as
start is showing compassion to your inner child
I've I've said this recently in interviews you know
how many people in this community if there was a
child crying and hurt and upset in the next room
how many of you would not go into the next room to
comfort that child Right What makes your inner
child any less worthy of that type of nurturing and
comforting Absolutely So having people just begin
the process of nurturing and loving and accepting
their inner damaged child instead of not wanting to
look at that child in the eyes because of what it
brings up You know I think that's an essential part
of that process Yes And even just acknowledging
that that child is there just even acknowledging
that there is a scared wounded child in there that
was not treated as respectfully as you know
hopefully we might treat Children or other beings
and really acknowledging that there is some healing
some kindness and compassion that is owed to that
part of ourselves that um that really wasn't
treated the way that he or she should have been
treated Yeah Yeah Yeah I think uh continuing to try
to practice um being gentle with ourselves
acknowledging that all beings have pain and
suffering including ourselves that mistakes are
part of being human they're part of the human
process And especially in those moments offering
kindness to ourselves rather than criticism can
completely change how you relate to yourself your
mood and uh your sense of just inner strength If
you're not beating up on yourself all the time
you're going to feel a lot more trusting of
yourself walking through life rather than
constantly criticizing yourself about every little
move that you're making It's amazing how outwardly
were so sweet nice and giving to strangers around
us but to the person we're with all of the time
ourselves we're the most critical and uh
destructive you know critically destructive Yeah
Yeah Yeah Um where was there anything else you
wanted to talk about before I start winding down
The only other thing that I think might be
important is a values conversation So I think that
I've found them to be really helpful for people in
terms of just remembering who they are beyond their
programming Okay just having general values
becoming clear about what those values are for you
personally most people don't take the time to do
that So it can be very valuable in helping just
create a stronger sense of self Okay so depending
on your personality type you may have a different
level of code that you live by your values that are
unique to you How important is it Uh when you
counsel people uh to get them to really focus on
their values and to see if you know there are part
of the problem or you know something that they
should find too values can be an excellent tool to
help you gain clarity about who it is that you want
to be moving through life and how you want to be
remembered by other people They can help you to
make big decisions in your life They can help you
again to be more selective in terms of the
relationships that you invite or do not invite into
your life and most people don't take the time to
really evaluate what those values are Your values
are essentially qualities of living that you uphold
as a person and at the end of your life people are
not going to remember you know the car that you
drove or the letters behind your name they're going
to remember that you were kind and you are creative
and you are reliable and so taking some time to
really reflect on what those core values are for
You can be very helpful in terms of strengthening
your sense of self and really remembering who you
are before the programming So before you know your
parents and your peers and society started you know
putting these ideas or beliefs into your um into
your cognition These are the qualities that you
uphold as a person they're really at your core who
you are And so there are lots of activities that
you can do You can just look online for value
search and really think about what those core
values might be for you Another easy way to think
about what your values are is to think about
somebody that you really respect in your life that
you really look up to that you that you value and
to think about what are the qualities that that
person emanates and um can I move in the direction
of those qualities as well So your values can serve
as a blueprint a compass of swords to help you
guide yourself when things are confusing when you
do feel lost when you feel like you have lost a
sense of who you truly are they can help us
remember what's important and what direction we do
want to be moving in Great So Hang on a 2nd All
right so a lot of people in the audience right now
are they're ready to go They want to start dealing
with traumas working on karma from the past um and
some of them are ready to rent a cabin go have a
weekend of crying and sobbing and rocking you know
and uh how do we how do we really make it very
clear that when you're starting to visit traumas a
lot of things can come out a lot of emotion a lot
more can come out than you expect It's like
Pandora's box when you do with trump Um how
important is it that you have a trained licensed
psychologist or psychiatrist help you through this
process It's it's very very helpful if you know I
would I would highly recommend it in my of course
biased opinion But um you're right that when you
start really delving into your own shadows it can
become overwhelming emotions can surface that you
didn't even know existed Ideas or memories can come
up that um you're having difficulty digesting and
making sense of which can interfere with your
ability to function during the day And so it is
recommended that you use the safe container of a
counselor or um you know a shaman or you know
someone who can really hold the space for you to
hell and unpack some of these things so that you're
not doing it alone And part of that process can be
very difficult to do alone because sometimes we
can't get that perspective from within Sometimes we
have to have someone there who's saying well have
you thought about it this way or maybe you know if
you if you move in this direction that you would
have a different experience Um and again it can
feel very overwhelming doing it alone Um there is a
organization called disclosure support and they
list all counselors who are aware of what most of
us are aware of in this community and Vivian Davis
is heading up that organization I'm also part of it
and one of the counselors that's on the list and so
if you felt like you wanted to go ahead and dive in
and do the deeper work I would recommend that you
look at some of the practitioners um a lot of them
will offer online sessions I myself also offer
online because I know that um it can be challenging
to find a counselor who isn't going to judge you
isn't going to say that you're crazy if you're
having experiences with other beings or you're
having new insights and awareness is um but yes it
can be very challenging to do without additional
support Yeah absolutely that is great that we're
starting to get networks more and more together of
mental health professionals that are more
consciously open you know uh and it's equally as
equally as awesome that there are online sessions
that people can have because it can be daunting
trying and intimidating trying to find a counselor
Mhm especially if you're looking through the
haystack trying to find that needle you know of a
highly conscious counselor having the ability to
schedule them and do them remotely is very
convenient and it allows you a lot you know a lot
more chance at success of finding that type of
counselor So I'm glad that people like you are
offering these sessions online Yeah absolutely One
additional thing that I'd like to say though is
that a lot of people have fear around their
emotions and really opening that can of worms But
the truth is is that your higher self or the true
being that you are has the capacity to hold
whatever emotional experiences that you're having
here in this three D existence And so even though
it feels very overwhelming it can feel very intense
at times There is some of the work that you can do
safely on your own by really just being rather than
doing more you know and that's sort of the
conversation around um you know masculinity versus
femininity in a society of do do do go go go
succeed you know more and more and more where as if
we can just slow down and focus on being more
present with ourselves and our emotions and really
holding space for them without the fear the fear
that we're going to lose it or something really bad
is going to happen is often just a thought that our
mind is having whereas if we can sit with the
emotion and breathe into it and create a space for
it Oftentimes we can navigate it Um and even if you
could meet with a counselor for a few times to
really learn how to walk through that process there
is a lot of the work that you can do on your own
and your emotions are they're not going to kill you
even though they seem very overwhelming very
intense Um You are very capable of holding a space
for them and the more so that you can surrender to
that process the faster they're going to transmute
into something else Well um if and I appreciate it
thank you Dr mckinnon Um if people want to look
into your work more possibly even schedule a
session with you what's the best way for them to
contact you or to become more familiar with your
work Yeah so you can check out my website it's a
flourish with Star dot com with two R's so that's
flourish with Star and you can see a little bit
about what I offer and message me directly through
my website and if you're looking for somebody who
is closer to you I can try to connect you with
other providers who might be closer to your area Um
Some of us are credential by insurance panels so
they can be covered by your insurance which is an
added plus but there's always complications with
the whole insurance structures as well Um But a lot
of people will offer sliding fees so yeah I just
feel free to reach out to me and if I can't
personally help you or if I can't personally fit
you in I'd be happy to try to help guide you in the
right direction Well some where are you located I'm
in san Diego California san Diego Okay well dr
mckinnon thank you so much for joining me This has
been a wonderful conversation I'm looking forward
to uh seeing how the audience responds We covered a
lot of a lot of the symptoms and just energetic
friction that a lot of us are feeling and going
through through our own awakening and growing
process and also through relationships as we awaken
and growth I really appreciate it and I look
forward to speaking with you again soon Yes and
thank you so much Courtney for allowing me to be a
part of this process and be a part of all of your
process as well Thank you very much Thanks Corey
and thank you for joining us on accelerating
ascension where we're taking a holistic approach to
the mind body spirit complex bringing it into full
alignment so we can be effective star seeds We can
be effective in the mission that we came here for
Thank you Goodbye
People: Corey Goode, Dr. Starr MacKinnon
Topics: Awakening & Ascension, Handling Negative Emotions, Health & Healing, Inner Work, Mindfulness, Relationships, Self Care, Spirituality, Unhealed Trauma
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