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Hello guys. Welcome to another episode of Ascension Workers.
I'm Mike Wazowski. And today, I thought
because of some recent releases of documentaries
and a lot of discussions happening,
I thought I would cover the subject of spirituality,
specifically as it relates to UFO disclosure
and the subjects which are mystical
and beyond our understanding, which are a just a lot
of question marks for people.
And there's a lot of sometimes fear associated with it,
and sometimes it's, it's religion,
and sometimes it's just, uh, people not wanting to look at
reality, uh, and, and what's been said and what's out there.
And it's sometimes inconvenient to try
to understand what's going on when there's
so many mysterious things being reported,
and like, why does it even matter
to be talking about all these things when we have our own
more pressing issues that seem to be affecting us, the,
the quality of our lives, the quality of our ability to,
to succeed in life,
which could be a spiritual thing, but a physical thing.
And it could be, uh, seen by people to be a matter
of technology, a matter of evolving our society to a higher
position where we can have less scarcity, more abundance,
and more freedom to, to pursue the spiritual path that we,
that we feel that we wanna pursue.
Although, of course, uh, all along the journey, regardless
of what we're facing, we are inevitably receiving spiritual,
teaching, spiritual lessons through our life circumstances.
And it doesn't matter in that sense, what,
what images are in front of us.
If it looks like a human telling us something spiritual,
that we need to be reminded
or telling us something that made us frustrated,
that caused us to look within for the truth.
Or if it's a seemingly a messenger of God, an angel
that comes before us and tells us to, to look within,
of course, the latter might have more impact on
how seriously we take the message if the Messenger delivers
it in a way that we take that more seriously.
And to some degree, we have like secondhand messengers with
UFO Abdicates
and witnesses who come forward, uh, even near death Experie.
We have categories of people who have in,
who have interactions with something beyond and mysterious,
and they come back with their own unique perspectives
that's based on the experiences they had.
And we have to sort
of synthesize all this different
information coming from different sources.
And so that's why it can be more convenient for people
to just, uh, brush everything aside
and say, well, at least I'll go with
what my pastor's saying, what my pastor believes, or,
or some other blogger
or whoever I'm currently respecting the most,
uh, in, in their opinion.
Like Joe Rogan is a fun example where he's gone back
and forth on the UFO issue,
and people have so much respect for him.
They don't even bother researching.
They just, they just trust him.
But now it's, it's, it's interesting that people's respect
and trust for government officials has gone back
and forth to, on this issue where it was almost
as though there was an assumption that no matter what, uh,
a politician is saying, or an elected
or somebody who's been appointed
to a position in the executive branch
or anybody related to the government
or corporations, it's like there was a distrust
because of the fact that, of course,
they've been lying about this issue,
the u ffo issue for, for decades.
Why should we trust anything they're saying?
Especially now when there, there seems
to be more coordinated efforts to, to push some kind
of information, uh, that that would be UFO related
into the, into the consciousness.
But it's happening organically and,
and mysteriously still, I think.
And so, but we have these two major documentaries
that just came out last week, and we have the Age
of disclosure, which was receiving a ton of media attention.
So, so many major media stations were having to cover
and interview the director.
And, uh, but this is like,
I feel like it's a disclosure project 2.0 on some level,
and that they, they even have disclosure project witnesses,
and that's why I also liked Steven Greer's unacknowledged
document documentary, which took just raw witness testimony
and compiled it just a little bit more succinctly so
that the average person could, could digest it without
getting bored, which is, which is, so it's sad,
but people get bored just listening to regular interviews,
so they need it compressed down to bite sizes.
But, but that's what it takes.
And so the documentaries are very helpful.
And, and having the bite size sound bites of, of, uh,
government officials hills in this instance, a government,
um, contractors, people who, uh, senators, lots
of senators were interviewed, um, like Marco Rubio.
And, and, and he, well, he's the second, he's Secretary
of State now, he's, he's, he's in a much higher position.
So it's fascinating that, um, this is just an upgrade
of the seniority levels of people saying these kinds
of things from what we had with the Disclosure Project,
where it was not
as many high ranking people in the original,
uh, witness testimonies.
That sparked a lot of interest in the subject
for a lot of people, myself included.
But it's the apparent authority that these people have
that's giving this documentary, uh, credibility.
And it doesn't mean that there's,
there's strong evidence being presented.
It just means that our apparent trust
and authority is what's being trusted
to help us have new beliefs.
And it's the same thing if you haven't noticed
with Christians and the Bible.
If, if they can see a passage in the Bible
as saying something about angels
that suggests they are not
incarnated physical humans or something.
They're not like humans, even though there's many,
many things that, uh, just, just outline how,
how much like humans angels have been.
There's Hebrews 13, two says that, be careful who you,
who you, how you treat strangers,
because you might be, you might be entertaining angels.
You might be having to show hospi hospitality to angels,
not realizing you're dealing with an angel
because it looks just like a human.
This is in the Old Testament in the Book of Genesis
and Judges and the New Testament and, and Hebrews.
And although the New Testament is, uh, less in
that direction overall, there's,
because there's always special attributes assigned
to these, these, these beings.
But my point of bringing this up is that, um, what there,
there's just a ton of mystery around this subject,
and people like
to dismiss it based on authority figures without diving
for themselves into the details of the stories.
And if you just trust what you've heard
from some apologetics website, you can't trust anything you,
you read about UFOs may,
maybe all the ap all apologetics websites would say
doco in the direction of the new age,
because that's where apparently people have a freedom
to share their, their stories to much greater extent.
They don't have to line up.
Although there are many interesting stories that, you know,
uh, some, some good Christian, um, podcasters have allowed
to be, to be shared.
Um, it's like there's always, there's always been like a, a,
a level of setting the line
where this is theologically shaky,
therefore, we don't wanna listen to that story.
We're gonna place our authority in, in the scriptures,
therefore we can only hear these people's stories.
But, but there's always a gray area in the middle.
Um, but the, but the question of authority, I think is one
that the UFOs are ultimately trying to undercut
because they, they do contact average people,
and they do try to get witnesses who are very credible
to the average population, who are not necessarily
looking very credible in the eyes of, uh, the, you know,
the scientific and elite classes of, of, of our society.
Um, and you could say that there's, there's some kind
of wisdom there that, uh, we, we need to, we need
to recognize that everyone can be a messenger.
Everyone can have the message.
And this, this is obviously bringing me back to the subject
of angels, and that it's humorous that, you know, you have,
you have, uh, like David Wilcock coming out saying,
when he's on ancient aliens,
they would not let him talk about angels.
They would not let him use that word.
He was drawing the connection all throughout his life
between angels and extraterrestrials.
Uh, he was visited in his dreams,
and he had this strong feeling around it.
And he had many, many forms of guidance, many forms of,
of information coming to him.
Um, and you also have, uh, the, the
streaming network, Gaia, where, which Dave Wilcock was,
was working with, uh, for, for many, many years.
And, uh, I spoke with the, the, the founder of Gaia.
And, and one of the things I learned directly from him was
their, their unwillingness to deal with religion,
anything resembling religion on their networks.
Uh, it, it, it can be a controversial thing, um,
but if you're gonna talk about mysterious spiritual
encounters, people are having to, to dismiss all
of the history of religion is
to really miss the big picture of this.
And the, just the word angel does not mean
what kind of messenger you're dealing with.
A, the word angel means messenger, and it doesn't clarify.
This is, this is, uh, a human
who is living on a different planet,
human who's living under the ocean, uh, somebody who
looks like a human because they have the ability to appear
as a human, and they're not actually physically flesh.
But there are countless examples in the Bible
of people having physical interactions
with even touch of angels.
And there's, there's no question that, uh,
there's a belief in, uh, in
modern fundamentalist Christian circles
that angels can be indistinguishable
from humans at a minimum.
Uh, so it's, it's, but there, but there's a,
but there's a hesitancy to admit that the angels could be
actually more like people and that they're flesh and blood,
and that they have existence somewhere else, uh,
besides our, the surface of the planet, that they might,
they may be residing somewhere else
and coming here for some purpose.
That is, uh, you know, clearly if you even go beyond, uh,
a little bit beyond the Bible,
and you look into all the different, uh, subjects
of the show, ancient aliens, basically, you end up seeing
that there's, there's religious categories, uh,
strongly tied to these beings who have been helping people.
Uh, it's just that in the recent era, there clearly,
clearly has not been this kind of interaction, uh, between
beings that that would be known to be not human
or not like a regular human.
But the, uh, the, the broader picture here is
that there is a message that the messengers are delivering.
And, and the fact that this would all be wrapped
around the subject of a messenger with a message
is alone, a, a strong hint that the reason
that UFOs are interacting with us is the law of one says is,
is to, it was designed to inspire a sense of mystery,
at least the positive ones.
You know, there's still agendas for fear.
And this is also like why Stephen Greer is like boycotting
the Age of Disclosure documentary
because of the, uh, the idea that if you're teaching
that there, there's wars in the heavens,
there's wars in space between different kinds of, uh,
negative beings and positive beings,
and maybe even our government now is, is, is having to, to
be involved in, in things with not positive,
not necessarily positive agendas.
And I know there's mixed agendas,
and this is even supported by the law of one books, in
that there are clearly positive
and negative groups out in space in, in that text.
But the idea is also clear
that there are some groups which are not that advanced
to have chosen a path of polarity one way or the other.
And they can still come here,
and in all innocence, they're allowed
through the quarantine and some cases.
Uh, but there are, it's unclear how many, uh, other,
other beings, which are shouldn't, shouldn't be classified
as having a, a definitely positive
or definitely negative agenda that are here.
It's unclear how many there are.
Um, but, but that,
but that is the overwhelming theme of like the Bible
and the, uh, the law
of One books put more emphasis on the, the, the, the,
the groups that are having an agenda in the sense that they,
they, they would prefer that that humans grow.
They have a preference that there be growth in one
or the other direction, growth towards love of others,
and growth towards the philosophy of love of self,
which then allows for control and manipulation
and expansion of an empire.
And that's kind of what we,
we already see happening on earth in many ways, is
that there is division between people who want control
and people who wanna step back from the system
and say, this isn't working.
We need to rethink this,
and we need to do things differently
where we're not just giving all the control of people
behind the scenes who are wanting to hoard as much power
as they can and take away our ability
to have the freedoms that we desire.
Um, and that, that, so I, I would say that we don't have
to have fear that what's happening in space is
the same as what's happening on earth,
even if it is the same.
If, you know, the law of one talks also about the thought
or that there's the negative who's depleted only
through failure to manipulate the positive
who is depleted only through failure to accept
that which is given, this is happening on the,
on the levels, just beyond our site of, of, uh,
real physical en entities described in this,
in this material, who are engaged in simply offering
thoughts, simply trying to shift our consciousness, uh,
more in, in one, one or the other direction.
And it's balanced for the purposes of our own growth.
It's balanced. There's always a balancing act so that,
that each individual is
empowered to make their own decision.
It's not that there's an authority coming over
and saying, this is what you should be believing.
This is what you have to believe,
because we're telling you this is the truth,
and this is the way everyone should be believing.
Uh, we have to have freedom in the midst
of appearing like we're slaves on earth.
We have still have to have freedom to make your own,
make up our own minds about what path we're choosing,
and in our own growth process,
because that the desire to choose has to be fostered
for the choice to be made with the strength
of will necessary for evolution to be occurring.
If we were just taken care of, we were just taken care of,
uh, you know, we turn into the couch potato archetype
and we're just, we're just zombies.
And, and there needs to be a reason for people to care,
to get up off the couch and become, um,
more interested in evolving, growing, working
through problems that aren't yet worked
through in their lives.
Uh, and in the process of working out our issues, we were,
we're growing in the ways that allow the harvest of the,
of the planet to be ripe.
But there are very few harvesters working,
and there are very few people who are aware of the fact
that this is, uh, a time of, of harvest, that we have
to do the work to make sure that the, the souls
of humans on this planet are reaching their,
their fullest potential right now.
And that's really the point of, of the weirdness of,
of all this that's, that's going on on the planet is, is,
is pushing people past their comfort zones, pushing people
to break, break their, their habits of, of ification,
and find and find the, the spark of, of faith
or divinity that, that, that, that attracts them
to seek the light, to seek something
above them and beyond themselves.
And certainly the UFO subject for me
and for many people has been foundational
and allowing us to just have enough
of a question mark, what was I missing?
I wanna find out what was that little puzzle piece
that I never properly investigated?
Where is, where does that road lead?
And it doesn't lead to trust in any particular authority.
It leads to questions of what's going on within us.
What is this all about? What is this for? Why am I here?
And is, is there a message that's being delivered
that I should be listening to, and maybe even adopting
and becoming a messenger of that message
and remain humble in the process?
As Ross says that they required themselves
to be called only a humble messenger of the loved one.
Uh, although they seem to have more authority in,
in many respects, in the way that they spoke, their,
their manner, manner of speaking, revealed an intelligence
beyond anything that I've seen any human come up with, um,
any other source of material.
Um, but I, I,
I, I could share some other, uh, interesting details now,
uh, and also it's app appropriate to share.
Corey Goode is not an authority, uh, in this sense, and,
and that he's, he's even being forced
to re-question everything in his reality.
And, and it's like we're given the information so
that we can use it to piece together that which we need
to grow and expand our awareness.
And if that means throwing out our
assumptions, that's great.
We can, we can continuously re-question, uh, where,
where our, our spiritual foundations are,
because that has to be the foundation that we're laying
to begin pursuing what matters in
every other aspect of our lives.
Why are we pursuing changes on any political level
or any personal level if we haven't figured
out why we're making changes?
And that's the spiritual side of it.
Why are, why are we really making, uh,
having a desire to make changes?
Um, but I thought one other area
that I could touch on would be the, um,
just basically the Bible,
because the, one of the, one of the biggest areas
that these, these, uh, documentaries are pointing out the,
this, this evolution of human consciousness around awareness
of the U-A-P-U-F-O issue is pointing out the fact
that there will be huge gaps in society around how
to handle the information that's coming out,
how to, how to face this.
And it would seem that the biggest stumbling block for a lot
of people is still the Bible,
the people not even knowing what's in the Bible.
And this is partly why I would recommend people if they have
not ever heard of Michael Heiser to read something like his,
his, uh, starting work, the unseen realm, that
that explains the basics of some of what I'm,
what I'm about to share with you right now.
But, uh, but he has his own, uh, very, very, uh,
fundamentalist Christian, uh, interpretations
and boxes on everything, uh, which are, uh, fair, but, and
and comforting for a lot of people.
Um, but he doesn't have the answers.
He has questions just like everyone.
Uh, one of the, one of the funniest things is, you know,
that he talks about in his books
and that many, uh, theologians have had
to debate about is sur passages, which talk about,
in the Old Testament, which talk about the angel of God,
the angel of Yahweh, um, and the angel of Yahweh.
I'm gonna pull up the, we have, uh, Exodus,
we have Angel of Yahweh described, um,
in a, in a few different places, um, zacharia.
Um, and
well, the basic thing is that when the, when the angel
of Yahweh is being de described as an entity
that people are interacting with, the, the,
the scriptures were often switched back
and forth between saying, God is speaking,
Yahweh is directly speaking to the person,
and the angel of Yahweh is speaking to the person.
So this, this usually gets translated to say
God is having a conversation with the person,
but the, the, the scriptures will say that the angel
of God and God are speaking to the person
as though these are the same conversation.
And this is, this, of course, you know, forces us to say,
this is the role of the messenger, is
to be a transparent parent communication mechanism to speak
with God, to God receive the message directly from God.
These are messengers of God that are described in scripture,
at least, that, that have the message so clearly
from the voice of God that they are seen
as indistinguishable from hearing directly from God.
This is my interpretation.
You can read other people's interpretations of this, uh,
but it's a very common thing to see in, in the scripture
that doesn't get very much attention.
But, but these beings are often lumped together.
There, there's all kind of beings that are talked about.
There's the, uh, a very, very awesome, uh, Psalm 82
referenced to the Elohim,
and I could pull this up easier.
So the word Elohim actually has like different markings
around it, around the two different ways it's used in,
in Psalm 82,
it starts out saying, um, you are gods,
all of you sons of the most high.
I said, you are gods, all of you sons of the most high.
The very first verse starts out saying
that the Elohim standing was standing
in the midst of the Elohim.
The first one was the singular Elohim,
because the markings, even though Elohim is technically a
word that means plural, this is God in the singular Elohim
standing in the midst of the plural Elohim.
This doesn't mean that there is more than one God.
This means that the author chose to use
possibly poetic language in describing Elohim
as being a kind of category of being, which is beyond us.
And this is, this is easy for, uh, you know, Michael Heiser
to say these are non-physical beings in
some spiritual dimension.
But then it goes on to explain how these beings
have big given authority over different regions.
It's almost like they're political figures.
And so that's why the primary interpretation, the,
the majority of who of Christian interpretation I've seen
around Psalm 82 is
that this is actually talking about people
being called Elohim.
But that is not actually, uh, very clear.
There's nothing clear about that.
And when you look at all the other references to the sons
of God, the Benet, Elohim, the Elohim are discussed, um,
in, with different variations on the language
that clue you into the fact
that the Elohim are being talked about
as essentially angels, essentially these, these, these,
these beings who are coming to earth.
And, you know, the strongest connection is the, um, to,
to physical beings would be like the fallen angels.
The idea of, of these beings who came to mate with women
that are one of the weirdest things in, in scripture, um, is
that there's, there's apparently this inbreeding
between humanity and angels.
And that alone should clue you in a little bit if fallen
angels are causing their genetics
to become part of our genetics.
Does that really sound like a heavenly spiritual being,
or does that sound like a person that's,
that's, that's a weird one.
Uh, but, but the Bible is full of references
of angels acting just like people.
And Psalm 82 is just, just, just one
of the weirdest examples where, um, if
and if especially if you review Michael Weiser's work,
you can see he'll, he'll break down the
Hebrew scriptures one by one.
You could see how how weird it is to, for anyone
to have thought that Psalm 82 is talking about regular
people, is talking about some other kind of being, which is
more on the level of God.
And yet, Psalm 82 is a rebuke of these beings.
And for the, for the shoddy job they were doing in helping
humanity, which is a fascinating thing that
that would be just nestled right in the middle
of the Psalms, a rebuke of the, of the angelic class for,
for how poorly they were stewarding over humanity.
That's getting into a lot of UFO mythology kind
of sounding lore.
You know, Corey Good has talked about the, uh,
genetic farmer races being scolded basically
for the shoddy work they were doing in, uh,
maintaining opportunities for people to grow
because they each had their own agenda
and their, their work.
And, uh, he said the genetic programs were,
were almost in competition with each other.
There's so many different projects going on,
and you know, this is not far off from other, if you,
if you step beyond Corey's testimony,
this is not far off from what
government witnesses, witnesses have said.
Um, this is roughly, uh, related to,
uh, what Lyn Bolton how was shown by government document
that shape her beliefs completely.
Of course, everyone trusts different sources, and, but,
but like I said, this is so prevalent, this idea, of course,
it's talked about in the law of Olympics too, that the idea
that even the Yahweh, uh, entity was involved in making a,
a, a more stronger class of humans
and genetically stronger and more intelligent.
And this was, this was intended to be used so
that people would have a stronger understanding
of spiritual principles, stronger understanding of oneness,
and the value of compassion.
And they used their strength
and intelligence, um, against the will of the intentions
of the Yahweh entity.
And they, they, in enslaved others with their intelligence,
they became more the elite class.
And that's the recurring issue with, um,
with people on this planet, is that they become, uh,
distorted, twisted in their thinking, tricked into their,
in their thinking, into becoming more interested in
control than acceptance.
And so this is why there's had to be a, a backing off
of the, of the angels according to the loved one books,
you know, the Confederation is what they call them,
not angels, but there had to be a backing away.
But they obviously talk about these being appearing
to people as though they're like angels.
It's like there's, there's indistinguishable.
Um, when you're just trying to help someone along,
how do you wanna appear to them?
Uh, if, if the appearances are helpful to,
to catalyze people in the direction of feeling awakened,
feeling the need to, to take on their mission
and take it more seriously.
Um, but these entities back off
because of the fact that humanity
is continuously being tricked,
and it's almost, it was almost impossible to predict.
They were said that they were naive many times.
The ni the, in the law of our books, it says,
the confederation entities were being naive
and not knowing how people were being gonna be tricked into
turning everything, twisting everything to the negative.
And this is obviously hilariously patterned
in the Old Testament.
It's a story of calamity
after calamity of people not, uh, taking a hint
and honoring the ways that are more spiritual.
And it's repeated across all of our, uh,
history in all, in all cultures.
We are falling on our face again and again.
And the question is, what can, what can wake us up?
What can allow us to take the teachings
of Jesus more seriously?
What, what would be the wake up call
that could take cause humanity,
cause Christians specifically to take the teachings
of Jesus more seriously, rather than just trusting
that they've been saved, they believe all that stuff.
That's fine. They're gonna go back
to the couch now and watch tv.
What, what, what would allow you to take the, the, the need
for, for praying, the need for inner work, meditating,
meditate on scriptures, if you have to find a way
to get closer into what, what we're really here for and,
and why, and how we can be awakened enlivened into, uh,
a mission and a purpose that will actually be, be seen
as radiant, uh, shining light on a hill, not, not hidden.
Um, honoring and revealing the love
and forgiveness of Christ to everyone, that kind of thing.
Um, I've been rambling for a half hour.
Thanks for listening. I've got, I had
so much more I wanna talk about,
but this is like, I could go in for hours
and hours on the theological stuff
if I was better organized.
And it's fun, it's fun
to read the, the Michael Heiser books.
He does not take, uh, you know, into account versus like
Hebrews 13, two very well, where, where, you know, I said
that it talks about the angels being present.
You don't even know it, you don't even know
that there's angels around you.
Um, 'cause he's, he's, uh, leaving question marks for a lot
of things, but at least he's addressing things.
And that's, it's very hard
because you have to like research Hebrew
for your, like, your life's work.
And so it is helpful to have
authorities that are theologians.
If you really placing your authority in scripture, try
to try to go back to the original text
and study the Hebrew, understand the Hebrew,
understand the Greek, and,
and you can get a sense of just
how far off the mainstream culture is from
the real teachings, um, in, in the ancient texts.
That that is still useful.
But of course, uh, doing your own work
and figuring out what you're being shown,
what you're being taught, that's what this is all about.
Uh, and, and if,
and if you're not being pointed in that direction
by the authority figures or the authority scriptures
that you're referring to, if you're not being pointed in the
direction of what matters most in your life, uh,
then you may, may, may be doing yourself a disservice
by being distracted by, by all the, all the words
that are being thrown around on issues which
are ultimately mysterious.
So mysterious that it's almost as though the point is not
to get to the bottom of this through other people,
but to get to the bottom of this in our own hearts and,
and find the truth without needing
these external authorities.
So thank you for listening.
I hope to do this more, uh, in the future,
and I'll have more guests on soon too.